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That doesn't make them any more creative. All the riffs shown in the video are really cool, and they are what makes the actual songs good. DP didn't make them, or even really build on them. :(

Exactly my qualms. It's not that they sample - a lot of great musicians do that, and it can be very enjoyable. But DP can just take a song from the 70s/80s, slap a vocorder, some filters, and a bass beat on it, and release it and sell millions. D: The worst part is that people don't realize they're being "ripped off" in some form. Thomas Bangalter is the master of this over-sampling - he's made a career out of for this for quite a while (and not just from DP - guy has god-know-how-many pseudonyms for music-making).

really, Daft Punk doesn't do sampling any more than Moby, Chemical Brothers, Prodigy, or any big player in the electronic music scene.

sampling is part of the art. if you weren't expecting what you saw in that video then you do not understand electronic music.

I really have to disagree. I've been big fans of all the groups mentioned (including Daft Punk) at one time or another (but currently am not, so I have no reason to defend these artist), and I really feel like DP goes way outside normal artist limits in this. When I listen to those other groups, I can hear the samples, and they're tasteful. They compliment an original song. But DP doesn't do that. It sounds like they start with the sample as their base. They build from that, and it shows.

Sorry, kind of a rant. But I can't understand how people defend them in this - it's not creative or artistic. OCR does creativity - to take a song and completely re-imagine it. DP does something totally different, and in my opinion, inferior.

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i as a remixer don't do anything more creative than Daft Punk. the music is approached in a different manner, but it is no more or less a creative process.

if you think they 'overdo it' in regards to sampling, that may be a reasonable criticism... but to say it's not creative or artistic is merely bigotry.

cheers.

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i as a remixer don't do anything more creative than Daft Punk. the music is approached in a different manner, but it is no more or less a creative process.

if you think they 'overdo it' in regards to sampling, that may be a reasonable criticism... but to say it's not creative or artistic is merely bigotry.

cheers.

Right on!

I never quite agreed with the whole "Remix < ReMix" thing.

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I was so bummed there weren't any shows near DC. I almost thought about driving up to NY for a day to see them (and the Rapture). Hope you all that managed to see them had fun.

I too saw that video Zircon posted a while ago and it was a little sad but not that surprising. All their songs sound like samples - somewhere in my mind, I knew they were ripping off old songs wholesale, but I had never heard those songs before then. Ultimately, I decided it didn't matter. To me, what their strength is, is knowing just how far to push a sample before it becomes too much. They use enough change-ups to keep it interesting and some of their beats I could listen to for hours.

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I found out about the Red Rocks showing about an hour before it started, so needless to say I was pissed about missing it.

However, I know where zircon is coming from; I lost a lot of respect when I found out that they had pretty completely ripped off several songs and only make minor changes and switch-ups. That isn't to say I don't still enjoy the music they make. They're live shows have really made me gain MUCH respect for them, however, since they're basically sampling most of their own music and making it into an absolutely awesome show.

I would have to say the only artist I actually think is quite genius in his use of samples is Amon Tobin. 99.9% of his stuff is so mangled and transformed into something much different than the original that it is quite enjoyable. When you do actually hear something familiar, its more like an "oh hey! thats what it is..." than "yeah, we get it, its that one loop from a song over and over again" from some of Daft Punk's songs.

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