SwordBreaker Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 http://www.gamemusiccentral.com/music/ I remember reading something in the press section of OCR about Invertebrate Retreat being featured in an Earthworm Jim album. Well, now we'll have to congratulate Daniel Baranowsky, Vigilante, and Zyko once again 'cause this song is also featured in the new album appropriately named "The Best of the Best: A Tribute to Game Music" from the link above! Awesome. Hmm...the song has an added "Subterranean Remix" in its title. Tommy possibly remixed it or something...even though I didn't notice anything different from the preview version. Speaking of that, there seems to be some really cool remixes in this album. I'm intrigued. Anyway, this is really cool news. Again, congrats to OCR and the dudes who made this awesome ReMix. One of my favorites. I just hope Tommy at least gives credit to you guys in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 1. Invertebrate Retreat (Subterranean Remix) - Earthworm Jim Artist: Tommy Tallarico huh? ya original artist but not remixer also why do we have to pay for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordBreaker Posted June 5, 2007 Author Share Posted June 5, 2007 Yeah...I noticed that, Arek...which is why I'm hoping Tommy will give credit to the original ReMixers of his song. This thread a little too quiet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Hmmm, interesting situation, I know Tommy came by awhile back and asked people for EWJ (etc) mixes for a compilation, but I thought they would be credited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremespleen Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 tsk tsk. that's no good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhsu Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Hmmm, interesting situation, I know Tommy came by awhile back and asked people for EWJ (etc) mixes for a compilation, but I thought they would be credited. This is a different album. The compilation that Tommy wanted the remixes for was EarthWorm Jim Anthology (co-produced by Mustin incidentally). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Right, but I mean he's using the track off the EWJ Anthology... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Right, but I mean he's using the track off the EWJ Anthology... ya if he denies it you got him sayin it on vgdj number whatever vgl was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 i think someones just trying to make bank off of remixes that others made for free thats just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Covenant Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 It's my understanding that it was a work-made-for-hire agreement. In other words, Tommy has every legal right to not give credit to nor compensate the remixers in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Author Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 This is odd anyway, especially since Tommy Tallarico seemed to be rather interested in the OCR community and approached it politely. Maybe he should just be contacted in case this CD is of questionable nature... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 It's my understanding that it was a work-made-for-hire agreement. In other words, Tommy has every legal right to not give credit to nor compensate the remixers in any way. So? That isn't Tommy's style and you know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Covenant Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 So? That isn't Tommy's style and you know it. I was commenting on the legal status of the situation, not Tommy's style. In addition, no, I'm not really familiar with his "style". Thus, I'm not going to hypothesize the intent(s) that lead to the current situation, only provide clarity on the legal nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 ohok ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Covenant Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 ohok------ Since you are familiar with his style, what do you believe happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Well, going by how he was when he visited the forums and how he was when he worked with Mazedude, I would think that he would credit anyone that does his work justice. He isn't a credit hog nor is he one that would not credit one for their work. He is too much of a cool guy to do that. For him to suddenly not give credit to other peeps works that he openly recognized at one point in time is just odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miletus Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Ha my one ambition in life is to have, whenever it's rumoured I've done something bad, someone pipe up and say I'm "too much of a cool guy to do that". Though the word 'dude' would be preferred. Anyway, it'll be interesting to see how professional's remixes compare with the communities. I know Jeremy Soule's was matched and surpassed by some community members here (that's not to say he isn't still the better musician for coming up with the original stuff he did) Oh and I hope too that that's actually a different track on the Cd from the one on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Covenant Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Well, going by how he was when he visited the forums and how he was when he worked with Mazedude, I would think that he would credit anyone that does his work justice. He isn't a credit hog nor is he one that would not credit one for their work. He is too much of a cool guy to do that. For him to suddenly not give credit to other peeps works that he openly recognized at one point in time is just odd. If this is so, then I would recommend contacting him and asking him about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Best person to do that would probably be Mazedude, or any of the higher ups here IE djp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordBreaker Posted June 5, 2007 Author Share Posted June 5, 2007 Maybe he credited the original ReMixers in the actual album... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Is someone handling an inquiry as to Dan, Jesse & weed's credit on that album? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpretzel Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 At this point in time, it appears to be an unfortunate decision, perhaps not entirely intentional, on the part of whomever was putting together the album for Tommy. My understanding is that little to no paperwork/signing went on when Dan and others contributed their efforts for the EWJ album and this album as well. I find it confusing that some arrangers would be directly credited and others not, and am disappointed not to see Dan's name in the spotlights, where it belongs given the amount of effort & time he poured into the track, but I'm not prepared to make assumptions about intentions. Mazedude, Mustin, Dan, and other relevant individuals are aware of this issue and looking into it. Until we hear otherwise, directly from them or from Tommy himself, it makes sense to chill. As a sidenote, this underscores the importance of a policy like the one we've been working on, to clarify exactly who can do what with what, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Taucer Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 At this point in time, it appears to be an unfortunate decision, perhaps not entirely intentional, on the part of whomever was putting together the album for Tommy. My understanding is that little to no paperwork/signing went on when Dan and others contributed their efforts for the EWJ album and this album as well. I find it confusing that some arrangers would be directly credited and others not, and am disappointed not to see Dan's name in the spotlights, where it belongs given the amount of effort & time he poured into the track, but I'm not prepared to make assumptions about intentions.Mazedude, Mustin, Dan, and other relevant individuals are aware of this issue and looking into it. Until we hear otherwise, directly from them or from Tommy himself, it makes sense to chill. As a sidenote, this underscores the importance of a policy like the one we've been working on, to clarify exactly who can do what with what, etc. We should ask Tommy in person at VGL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 I have talked to someone who owns the album. Here is exactly what it says: (BACK COVER) 1. Invertebrate Retreat (Subterranean Remix) (Inspired by Earthworm Jim 2) Artist: Tommy Tallarico and Daniel Baranowsky (LINER NOTES - INSIDE) 1. Invertebrate Retreat (Subterranean Remix) (Inspired by Earthworm Jim 2) (Tommy Tallarico) <c> 2006 Tallarico Publishing <p> Tommy Tallarico Studios, Inc. Vocals by Daniel Baranowsky Guitars by Vig, Rap by Waleed Hawatky Artist: Tommy Tallarico and Daniel Baranowsky --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 That is cool, at least credit is given on the album. Now, I still want to know if this is an official creation that Tommy and the original artists support or if this is just someone downloading mixes and selling them to make his own profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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