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Ok... here's my problem. If I load a VSTi generator in the FX panel, can I make a MIDI file to be associated with it so that it plays it? Or does it only accept live MIDI date (of which I can't do cuz my PC doesn't accept my M-Audio keyboard. Anyone know?

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No idea, sorry Xelebes.

I have a question about LFO's. Although I've recently heard that they really stand for "Low Frequency Oscillators" I just think of then as things that go up and down and you can attach them to stuff. Anyway, how would I make a stand-alone LFO in Fruity? I was thinking of using Fruity Formula Controller and having some variant of "sin(a)" where a is linked to the total time ellapsed, but turns out you cant link to that :?. Anyway, is there some VST plug-in that will generate a tempo-synced LFO? Or maybe some other way? Preferably the LFO would have an Envelope on it (for late-breaking vibrato, etc.).

And while I'm at it, is there any way to create a stand-alone Envelope? Most VSTi's have one, and the sampler has one, and even the SoundFont loader has it (although it doesn't exactly work as I'd like it too) but still not everything has it, and I think it would be really useful. As before, it could be VST or DX or maybe just some trick.

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remember, LFO over time = f(SongTime())

therefore:

sin LFO

a+b*Sin(SongTime()*c)

What do you want the LFo to do exactly? As a sub-oscillator that creates audible low frequencies or it to control something like a flanger or a delay or a SVF?

also check out mda's Envelope vst. Basic Envelope that puts an envelope on audio. The vstis that don't have an envelope are designed to be without them.

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And how can you import MIDI's into fruity loops to edit them?

I dont know about editing the .mid's themselves' date=' but you can import midis channel by channel into the piano roll. It's an option in the pull-down menu, which by the way is just GREAT for when you're not quite 100% sure whether you're after a b or a d.....

Or you can open up the piano roll and click on the little keyboard at the top. Go to file then import midi it will import the hole thing into one channel.

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Heh, I like your idea of posting that question here... saves thread space.

Anywho... learn to improve your midis. Improve to the point that you are sure you are nailing those songs. Then, you might wanna consider FruityLoops. You don't wanna amass all the tools on the first workday, you'll be totally overwhelmed by it all.

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Ok... here's my problem. If I load a VSTi generator in the FX panel, can I make a MIDI file to be associated with it so that it plays it? Or does it only accept live MIDI date (of which I can't do cuz my PC doesn't accept my M-Audio keyboard. Anyone know?

No, VSTs don't only accept live data. Just copy the pattern from one of your imported MIDI channels into a VST channel. (But you probably already figured that out, right?)

EDIT: Also, see Humanoid Typhoon's post above...you can also just open the piano roll for a VST channel, click the keyboard icon at top-left, and import a MIDI (either the whole thing or a specific channel).

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As for me, I'm wondering if anyone knows how to make their own Piano Roll Chopper patterns for FLStudio.

This is an old question too, but it didn't get answered and it might be useful to someone, so...

http://www.flstudio.com/help/html/pianoroll_menu.htm

And the full manual, in case no one's posted a link to it yet:

http://www.flstudio.com/help/

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Ok... here's my problem. If I load a VSTi generator in the FX panel, can I make a MIDI file to be associated with it so that it plays it? Or does it only accept live MIDI date (of which I can't do cuz my PC doesn't accept my M-Audio keyboard. Anyone know?

No, VSTs don't only accept live data. Just copy the pattern from one of your imported MIDI channels into a VST channel. (But you probably already figured that out, right?)

EDIT: Also, see Humanoid Typhoon's post above...you can also just open the piano roll for a VST channel, click the keyboard icon at top-left, and import a MIDI (either the whole thing or a specific channel).

I know that. But I was putting VSTis in the FX Mixer and not into a channel. I know you can do it in the channel, but U need to make a note that when you want to control particular parameters only when the VSTi is loaded into the FX mixer will it work. If it is in the channel, then those parameters will not function. I have noticed this for a fact with a few synths, not all... so I was just wondering.

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Wow... this really sucks :(.

I have too many VST(i)'s/DX(i)'s ... for one thing, navigating all of them is a pain, as you can only scroll so fast, and now that it's gone to the scrolling single-vertical-pane (with the arrows at the bottom and top) it's even worse... at least it was manageable when it was set out in 3 or so adjacent panes, if not easy to find exactly what I want.

Is there any way for me to organize all these? It just is really hindering my productivity, and it's really frustrating :? I like how Buzz has everything separated out into their little categories (Vocoders, Gaters, Basses, FM's, Phase-Distortions, Virtual Analogues, Delays, etc...); is there any way that I can make FL do this, or at least something that will help me manage everything? It's the same way with all my VST presets, not only can you not tell what instrument they are for before you open them (and it's not like I can remember all of them), but I have so many that they revert to a single-vertical-scrolling-pane menu, making it even harder.

:evil:

So, any help or ideas or tricks or comments?

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If you have that many VSTi htat you think you have too many of them, perhaps its time to stop using so many. I can understand having a few good synth vsti, a couple orchestra vsti, and maybe one or two drum vsti, but having so many that you need scroll buttons may be just going a tad too far. How many of those do you use in a new song? Do they do the same things you could do with samples? Its not about quantity of instruments, but the quality. You don't need "RaveMix VSTi" "SawBand VSTi" and "FM7;" I asure you, FM7 is powerful enough (and a resourcehogpiggy). Sure, you can get presets easily with all of them, not saying you do, but still, presets can only take you so far. Another thing, as far as i know, you cannot dump VSTi onto a channel, because of the way fruity handles them (it "wraps" them or smth) ruling out any type of orginisation.

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Actually, certain VSTis have different filters than others. Other's have a certain delay capabilities. Others have have different Oscillator capabilities. Some VSTis use a lot less CPU power than other VSTis. For example, it would be overkill to use an FM7 to do what the PM4 does with much less CPU usage.

Though, there are some VSTis which are a waste of space.

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Heh, Xelebes, all the ones I have are free. Go find them yourself, on K-V-R, or even Google... except for Rogue, which isn't on K-v-R, but you NEEED it. Dont have a link, just Google "Phobia 303 transistor Rogue" or something, it'll come up.

Garian, I'm sorry to hear that there's no way I can organize em :(. But you have to understand, there are always more free VSTi's, and they are all unique in their own way. And I don't have FM7 :P. I almost exclusively use free ones, or demos. That's why I need to specialize. I'll take the useless ones off my list, that's a good idea :).

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I went to a site called kvr-vst.com. How do I add the FXB files to Fruity Loops?

I tried to just stick the file in the folder (Sample\Channel Presets\3x Osc),

but it didn't show up in Fruity Loops.

(This is my first time attempting to add new instruments as you may have guessed...)

Thanks,

...ƒreid~

P.S.-What I'm really asking is, how do I add sound files/instruments into

Fruity Loops, and what kind of files do they have to be?

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dll, xi, sf2, fsc, wav, mid, syn

all are these are files.

Now, at kvr-vst, you want to download zips with dll files in them and have vst or dx rating on them. AU does not count.

Download and unzip to your folder that has vst in the FruityLoops directories. This may take a minute or two for you to find it and locate it.

Once you do, put it there (duh!). Now open up FruityLoops, and you habe the menu bar (File, Edit View...) and go to the Channels and go to Add one... Then at the very top will say more. Click on more and you get a new window. In the bottom left hand corner, there is a button called ReFresh. Click on it and there are two options. Click the Fast Scan (or which ever one is recommended.) The new plugin will appear in red. Check it with an F in the corresponding box. Then double click it to open it.

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