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Actually the judges on the panel encourage people to post their source usage because its quite possible that someone will miss source usage. People aren't robots who catch everything, if its clear or not. Its not just about whats obvious, its how well the listener knows the source tunes. Don't forget that people who are voting on all the remixes have over 40 sources to memorise. At some point we're going to make mistakes and that could mean the difference between a 1st place, 2nd or 3rd place vote. Saying that the remixer should have done a better job or that the music should speak for itself is silly imo because we're ALL liable to make mistakes no matter how much the remixer has tried to make the sources as clear as possible, particularly with remixes that use more than one source tune. A little nudge in the right direction from the mixer does no harm at all imo.

Hi all! I got married last month and I used OCRemix for all of our music. We sent as many people towards the site as we could but we'd like to help out on the site too. Here is is list of all the music that we used for the wedding: http://sarah.draknek.org/WeddingMusic.pdf Unfortunately the youtube playlist at the top no longer exists however the list of music may be helpful for others. There's over 6 hours of music included in the list, split up by whether we thought it would be better to play it before the ceremony or in the reception (or both!). So yeah, have fun with that, hope it helps and thank you so much to the wonderful OC Remix community!

So I've given the whole thing three full listens-through. There's definitely some good tracks on this album. I think the standouts for me are as follows: All of Kate Covington's tracks are superb, as per her usual M.O. - I think You Don't Know Me is probably my favorite thing on here. Fixations, Lunar Rebellion, and Craic in the Castle Walls are all amazing, particularly as they showed off tracks I had no real expectations for due to their being tracks that weren't particularly favorites of mine in the game; Fixations in particular struck me strongly, as I had totally forgotten about the wedding music in the game. As Long as We Remember is an excellent rendering of Garnet's theme, and The Knight of Woeful Sorrow, Crystal Tempest, Doomed Lovers, Black Mage Master, and Filtering Through the Memories are all really great takes on some of my favorite parts of the OST. There were some disappointments too, but I won't go into detail about them here. I do have a question though, and Mirby/Pipez' posts made me think of it: Is it my imagination, or did Eidolon Wall also get missed? Just for curiosity's sake; it's possible it got worked into a track and I just missed it.

A bunch of pics from the show are here https://picasaweb.google.com/116294723695410258054/MAGfestClassic2015?authuser=0&feat=directlink

I basically do it for 2 reasons: show you guys where I used which parts of which source (which is helpful for voting if you're not fully familiar with the sources) and I'm considering submitting (some of) them to OCR. For the latter a source breakdown + an idea of the amount of source reference (like timaeus did in percentages) helps out the judges and it also gives you an idea if you have enough source usage in there (if you don't have a lot of source usage, chances are the judges won't accept it)

Okay guys, Shariq's driving back from MAG Classic currently, so with his blessing, I'm posting in his place. The source for Round 8 is Mega Man X6 - Gate's Laboratory. It's technically a remix of the second X-Hunter's stage theme from Mega Man X2 (for reference), but with a little extra added.

Not going to comment on artistic worth, or cheapening the effort, because I believe thats all very much in the eye of the beholder, even tho I see what you're saying. But in terms of not having that information - I agree... if its for general listening. Yes, is it cool to hear new things a second time through, but when you're voting or judging on a track for a competition etc, you're not just listening for fun, so that argument kinda goes out of the window imo. For this competition, analysis of arrangement is important according to darkeswords rules, so in this case, we should have all the information we need to vote properly. I've known remixers to ask for do-overs on votes after judges have missed source usage so not everyone agrees on your point of view here. I'm sure if someone said they put you lower in the voting cause they didn't hear source usage you KNOW is there (and quite obvious with some prompting), yeah, I'd bet that would annoy some people. Also, regarding the point of the list the source usage is the remixers interpretation. If someone else still can't hear it, then thats fine. Again, I don't believe it does any harm. As has been said already, agree to disagree. I don't really want to derail this thread too much XD

For a quick analysis, and making the judging panel bearable, i'm inclined to agree with these points but it bothers me that ReMixes have become so mathematical to begin with. Percentages should not be used to determine if a remix is passable, familiarity should. Part of the fun of doing this OcReMixing thing is hearing how a ReMixer used the source in ways that you didn't notice the first dozen or so times you listened to it. Giving the source usage up right off the bat cheapens the effort you put into the remix and makes for a kind of guided discovery with the ultimate goal of requiring the listener to listen to the track less to get everything out of it. This is also known as decreasing artistic worth. Which I feel there is enough of already these days. So HIDE SOME STUFF! ...and let's give the future OCRemix Analyzers, Biographers and Anthologists something to discover and write about.

And now I seem to be working on something which seems to be something pseudo psychedelic rock-ish. I have no idea how I got there, and no, I'm sober (at least now)

I get what you're saying about the music speaking for itself, but aren't you saying here that some people are better (or "better") at recognizing source usage anyway? So, a source breakdown can help with bridging this gap (I know it does it for me, definitely saves me time going comparing between the source and the arrangement). I make the final judgement if it's valid usage in the end anyway. Music should speak for itself as far as pure enjoyability of the piece is concerned. But there are other aspects where analysis helps me appreciate it more in several possible ways: references (incl. VGM arrangement), meaning or background/context of lyrics, production techniques, story behind the composition/circumstances of how the piece came together, etc.. Music is never without context & there is no "pure" experience of music. edit: Not that I didn't agree what you're saying about two of my favourite ReMixer's work..

It's how Shariq feels too, but it doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. Sure, music isn't meant to be analyzed for source usage, but it is really helpful if it happens to be convoluted usage. Not everyone writes straightforward remixes, and the more interpretive tracks shouldn't be discredited if they're valid interpretations.

To be quite honest, I find this practice pretty silly. I never write this kind of second-by-second metric because music isn't meant to be treated like that, measured by a ruler. I want people to listen to the music and never think of how much I used the source between mark 1:02 and mark 1:05. Music should speak for itself.

There are many ways to arrange a piece, and in my experience as a listener it's not always all that obvious. For example, changing keys/modes or chopping up the source to elements and reshuffling them, or something like that is not always easy to pick up. Then a source usage breakdown can really help to spot what was done. Often times I go "a-ha!" and it clicks for me, and I hear the connection. Sometimes even afterwards I go "nah, I still don't recognize the original here". Either way, because the main thing to base your voting in this competition is how both sources were arranged together, source breakdowns from the arranger can really help. Of course, this doesn't necessarily have much to do with how enjoyable the music is (to me personally) or how technically competent it is, though I'll admit those things do influence my voting. I'll basically figure out the contenders for my top 3 based on do they arrange the themes together well enough (including how well they "flow" together and if they're free of "harmonic mistakes" resulting from combining the sources), then if it's particularly clever from the arrangement perspective, they're likely to place higher, but from there on I'll just pick the tunes I liked the best. Even if the track didn't really arrange both (or either) of the tunes together prominently, I might still enjoy it musically but I wouldn't vote for it.

I figure it out after I finish writing the track, but I do it to show people what my intentions were with using each source. If I'm not even substantially arranging VGM in a VGM remixing competition, then would I really have written a VGM remix? Or would I have written an original track with VGM influences? (rhetorical)

I want to play your levels, OCR people! Let's share level IDs here so we can find each other's maker profiles. (Some kind of search functionality would be a nice update for the game...) This is my first one, made with mostly day-one materials: Goomba Falls D60C-0000-0019-D75A

Did I just miss it, or is there no arrangement of Rebirth of the Evil Mist on this? I mean I hate that song solely because once you get to Disc 4 it replaces Crossing Those Hills forever and yeah, but still.