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Nope, you're in the Club, I can see you. You can access it from the menu at the top (where Browse & Activity are). Clubs are a new feature of the forums that recently got activated, and we're the first ones to use it. It's like the private forums that we used to have for Album Projects, but it's more convenient and better

https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01020

I'm watching this now! Before seeing it in full, I will note that much like the aesthetic of Wind Waker, there seemed to have been a knee-jerk reaction to BotW's music, and in hindsight many of us are seeing just how smartly the new game's soundtrack is put together. I feel that with time, the soundtrack will only gain more appreciation in the community. I'll edit this post with thoughts on your video after seeing it. Edit: I feel that -- at least among my friends here -- nobody is complaining about Tarrey Town, Rito Village, the Molduga theme, or (especially) the Hyrule Castle theme. All of those pieces are wicked good, and for the most part, scored in traditional fashion. Similarly, few folks hate on Kass' concertina playing. Worth mention since you analyze Hyrule Castle a bunch: there is also a Ballad of the Wind Fish reference right as the A theme loops back around that really makes me feel as if this is the moment I'd been playing dozens of hours for. But many folks would say that the drive and melody behind those pieces only serves to emphasize how stark the landscape and shrines feel with only Debussy-inspired piano for much of the grasslands, forests, and snow areas. Personally I don't mind that, and agree with your argument that the sparseness there makes for a good contrast to the locations that feature more traditional scoring.... ...except for the Shrine theme, which at the very least should be different for "reward" shrines, "combat" shrines, and "puzzle" shrines. The same theme for 120 dungeons is a little ridiculous, and you don't reference this at all. Now, I think that there are some good arguments in favor of the sparse music without having to say "hey, at least it isn't sparse all the time," even if that is a point worth making. For instance, the lack of a strong rhythmic pulse (thanks to short phrases with long gaps between them) helps allow the player to feel independent while exploring rather than as if they're being guided through a shared experience. The gaps also allow for incredibly smooth transitions into and out of variations on the multiple pieces composed in this style -- for instance, approaching the Temple of Time, the piano feels as if it organically integrates the tune into the soundscape rather than loading a separate track. That's not actually the case -- but because of the way the gaps work, it's easy to be fooled into thinking that's the case. Overall, I think it's a fantastic score. The impressionist music fits neatly with the Miyazaki-styled graphics, and the piano lends itself well to the nostalgia that fills the entire narrative of Breath of the Wild.

Submitted something, hopefully more stuff will come.

Thank you for joining the discussion with your valuable insights. I understand. And I share those other reasons for making music with you (fun, discovery, learning, emotional reward etc.) I think my personal history has a lot to do with how I perceive things now, which may make the story a little less relatable for other artists. All my life I have been kind of struggling to get noticed, to get attention. At an early stage in life I “discovered” that you need to have something going for you if you want to get that attention. I wasn't strong, or attractive, or whatever. My selling point then became drawing. And people would usually applaud me for my drawings, which would make me feel good. Then, as we got older life became even more of a popularity contest (high school). To make a long story short: I became increasingly isolated from peers and thus began craving the attention more (while at the same time having strong reactions against the popularity contest mentality). Years later I ended up online which allowed a shy person like myself new opportunities to interact with people and discovered that I could get a lot of validation for the artworks I shared. But still, the online world was just as much a popularity contest which just frustrated the whole thing. By now, I don't want to fall into that trap again of trying to seek attention and validation. I am still struggling to find my place on the playground with the other kids, so to speak. To state it bluntly: I don't want to always play by myself. So while I do get a lot of satisfaction out of making music, I don't want to be the only one listening to it (having just my mom say “nice melody” also isn't very rewarding ;P) You sound like you're a more stable, mature person who doesn't have that baggage. Also, having the dedication, experience and drive to do what you do seems very helpful. I'm generally very discouraged because of a number of failures in life. There are some personal roadblocks for me if I ever want to go that direction. And again, that may not be the road for me. I only discovered my musical talents a few years ago and I'm not going to bet all my chips on this. In fact, I do have other priorities in life. That said, I do want to see how good I can get and maybe I'll discover new paths along the way. I still have a lot of maturing to do in the first place (autism doesn't help...). I understand. What you're describing sounds pretty cool. Like you do get to play with the other kids in the playground. And yeah, that approach certainly sounds more fulfilling than just making music behind a computer screen. Hmm, so maybe desiring for the music to produce the connections is going about it the wrong way. Its asking too much of the work and of the people listening to it. But in your case, you already have the network and the social skills to pull something like that together. For me, even starting a connection, let alone maintaining one is an insurmountable task (again, the autism) Hmm, I see your point. I guess I said that out of ignorance. Time spent doesn't have to mean much, that is true. And I guess I've got to let other people have their own process too, even if that involves glutting the stream with what I perceive as amateur stuff. We all start out as amateurs. I'll clarify. I make music in my own time, for me. I started learning to play the piano a few years ago and quickly moved into making music digitally to save time on writing sheets. That opened up new possibilities that got me into writing for other instruments as well. Since I love VGM and have known about OCremix I do remixes on the side, as part of the overall learning process. Knowing there are more appreciators of VGM I figured I'd share my stuff here. I needed a way to link to my works, and that's why I have the Soundcloud account. I am not actively or seriously pursuing a musical career, nor am I advertising to get exposure. If it was my goal right now to get exposure and find meaningful connections with fans, and I wanted to not just have random people consume my music, then I agree 100% with your comments. I would not be approaching things in a very productive manner. Well, I trust your experience more than mine. I'm looking at it from the perspective of a (somewhat jaded) outsider but you and pu_freak have positive experience and knowledge of the inside situation. I think it is what I perceive about the music industry, modern society and people that is making me unsure about wanting to enter it. Maybe it is too early for me to make final judgments and perhaps I need to get out of the isolation more and actually find people who are artists. To learn more about the field. Given my personal limitations I'm honestly not sure if a professional music career is for me, but perhaps I can do something on a smaller scale, with smaller expectations. I do want to keep making music, that's for sure. Thank you for your respectful and helpful response .

As another Dutch person i thought it would be interesting to shed my light on the scene as well. Not particularly because I'm Dutch, but I find the subject to be engaging and worth talking about and also found it a nice coincidence. Like you said, there's an abundance of music at the moment and sticking out among the crowd is difficult. I agree with this. However, what I find interesting about your post are your reasons to make music. You name "the desire to express yourself" and looking for a "connection" with people. Personally, I'm a jazz artist. I used to study music composition in the Netherlands but I'm currently located in Germany. Of course, "expressing myself" and connecting with people has been a big reason to continue making music but I wouldn't call it the driving force. At all. This is naturally a subjective thing, but I do want to share my personal thoughts on this since I feel like it might open up some possibilities for other people as well. I make music to create music. For me the reason is very intrinsic. I love music, and I love writing music even more than that. For me the art of discovery and the excitement of finishing pieces, playing in ensembles, organizing concerts, making promo photos, the whole gizmo, it's amazing. Of course, when I make music I express myself, I also connect with other people, but I think that to realize that the fact that you're making music is fun and thrilling and emotional and generally just very wholesome is vital to keep doing this thing. Generally, want I want to say is that I'm simply not dealing at all with the things you're stating above. I'm getting a lot of satisfaction from making music. With that in mind I want to immediately stress that there's different ways of producing music. Personally, I write music in Sibelius and then I get the musicians together and we rehearse. Then, there's a concert and people pay to see that concert and I use that money to pay the musicians. That's like, the basic version haha. With this method I personally have a great way of "expressing myself', connecting with people (both the musicians I work with and the people who consume my music) and I'm also just having an awesome time with the whole thing of writing the music and organizing everything. Besides that, as an arranger I also make arrangements for big bands and such and sell those, and I also play gigs as a flute player in orchestra's, jazz ensembles or just random other gigs. Now, I'm going to quote something I found kind of funny about your post: The thing is that "the latest dance track" isn't so different from Mozart, or Bach or whomever else at all. That is, in principal. These people, especially Mozart were pouring out arrangements by the hour as well. The difference is that you cherry picked some of the finest musicians of their century against "a random guy on the internet". But honestly, they didn't spend that much more time on their music at all. In the end it all comes down to talent and creativity. And this thoughtlessly producing music is something I personally do as well. For example when I have to arrange something I don't really like for some kind of ensemble but I also do have to pay my rent so i do it anyway. It's like how Mozart did it, how Bach did it, how Thad Jones did it and how most arrangers and composers did it and still do it today. As you mentioned in your post, time filters things. But not just obscure artists, but also obscure pieces from famous artists. Mozart wrote a lot of music. Like a lot lot. And some of it is brilliant, and honestly some of it is sh*t. The point I'm trying to make here is that quantity isn't just a necessary thing for being a serious musician, it's even a good thing. Doing things more gives you experience and makes you better at it, it's as simple as that. Then, going back to my first point about producing music. I don't know what kind of art or music you make but assuming from your post I assume that it's something that you create by yourself and then release upon the internet. This is an entirely different approach than mine, and it isn't any better or worse, just different. And this is important to keep in mind. Because, what you're basically doing is that you're using this media, the internet, which you have many opinions about that directly contrast the way you want your way of making music to be, as your only way of releasing your music. It's counterproductive. I personally would never want to make a living from just uploading songs to the internet and having them be consumed by people I don't know. For the exact same reasons as you. But, I personally chose to just not do that. Of course, I still have to maintain a social media account for my band, book gigs, schedule rehearsals, write music for annoying people that you really don't want to work with but have to because they're paying you for making that arrangement, and other such things that proper adults do. But that's life, it's the way professional musicians in my field deal with things. And that's a completely different way other professional musicians in their respective field deal with things. My way might not be your way. But if the way that you're doing music currently isn't satisfying for you, then realize that there's other ways to do it as well. And here's why it's funny again that we're all Dutch here, because we're basically all growing up in the same environment. And yet we can all have different experiences, different perspectives and different working tools even though we're all just trying to make music. Which I think is also a nice proof that it isn't too late to change your way of looking at music, and the way you make music and produce music and find something that suits you and gives you the satisfaction that you want to get out of music. Because it's all possible, and in the end it's also the most important thing. To somehow have making music be intrinsically satisfying for you.

I can definitely help out with the last bit, just hit me up in a PM. I also know some flute players and can probably help connect you once the arrangement is further along.

Ideally somebody who's a lot better at recording acoustic guitar than me! That aside, a flautist (to record flute parts) and somebody to give me feedback on the structure/composition would be good!