The Coop

I wish I knew. Even [-Smoke-] doesn't know what happened to the first thread, and I'm sure the second ones disappearance is just as mysterious. I'm wondering if it has something to do with it not being posted in for 3-4 weeks, since that seems to be how long threads last in this forum. Maybe despite being a stickied thread, it still gets deleted due to inactivity. The second one vanished in less than 2 weeks. And Stickies aren't affected by the age of the most recent post, they stick forever until unstickied when too old. And the mystery continues to unfold... **plays "Unsolved Mysteries" theme**

Having finally beaten Alien Soldier last night, I found a new boss to loathe. Now, while the game is filled with bosses (it's on the verge of being nothing but boss fights the entire time), there's one boss on level 20 (yes, level 20) that proved to be a real bitch... in several senses. See, the boss is a female character that morphs into a big beast that you have to fight called the Valkyrie Force. Here, she throws a huge boomerang shot as well as shooting one of her arms at wherever you happen to be standing. Now, should you beat that form, she morphs again into Medusa Force. This is just a big "buzzsaw"-like form that you have to avoid being hit by as it moves forward and backward along the ground. Of course, there are periodic min fields to dodge and the only weapon that does any good in the homing shot. Beat that form? No problem, as she now morphs into Sylpheed Force. Here, you're constantly plummeting and drifting towards her... and literally the only weapon you can use in the homing weapon. Sadly, this runs out pretty quick again this form and you spend a lot of time dodging her dash attacks as you let the weapon refill. You have to get close to hit her, and one slight slip and you loose a big chunk of health should you bump into her. Bested that form? Now try Artemis Force. It's a cat-like form that's not too bad to beat. Should you get by that one... ... then you reach Sirene Force. Here, you're underwater and the super shot you can acquire to help with boss fights is useless. The boss swims around in a circle while it shoots out little energy balls that circle it. The only thing that'll help you here is the quick "block" attack that destroys bullets, and you'll need it here as getting hit regularly happens. Hitting the boss is a pain in the ass and sometimes the only way to hurt the thing to any great degree is to sacrifice your health and charge in. Five forms for one boss. No weapon rechargings with the exception of a couple power ups that go by pretty quickly during the second form... which you best make sure you get. Five different environment to battle in. I could beat all the bosses up to this one, and after this one, without much trouble. But the five form level 20 boss just gave me a fight that I just couldn't get past for what seemed like dozens upon dozens of tries.

I wish I knew. Even [-Smoke-] doesn't know what happened to the first thread, and I'm sure the second ones disappearance is just as mysterious. I'm wondering if it has something to do with it not being posted in for 3-4 weeks, since that seems to be how long threads last in this forum. Maybe despite being a stickied thread, it still gets deleted due to inactivity.

Well, since it has vanished yet again, here's the third version of this thread. For those of you coming here for the first time, this is just a friendly request to avoid making a "favorite remix/remixer" thread on this site. I'm sure you're wondering "Why?". Well, the answer is pretty simple. Those threads almost always degenerate into flame wars, as they have been done literally hundreds upon hundreds of times (and thusly, everyone is sick of them). Also, those threads usually get the same answers each time, and this can lead to hurt feelings... and yet more flames. If you feel the urge to divide your OCR collection up into the "WOW!" and "HOW'D THIS GET ON THE SITE?!" categories, please do so on your hard drive, and not on the site itself. Moderator edit: We're broadening this to favorite/worst stuff threads in general. They have the nasty habit of causing flamewars very fast (along the lines of "U IDIOT TAHT GAEM/SYSTEM SUX BALLZ/IZ GRATE") Same goes for those silly "Who would win?" threads actually. There's no winners in those, only losers. Not to mention that in most cases it's impossible to determine who'd win, since it's all based on opinion anyways . The Coop edit: I noticed a recent comment by Hausdog, and felt the need to update this post. It's been a while since the first version of this thread was made, and I figured it's time to give a more in-depth answer as to why these threads are still frowned upon. The reason OCR has a "No favorites" policy is two fold... 1- To avoid having the remixes be "ranked". The point of OCR is that all the songs posted here passed the judging process, and thus, are worth at least giving a listen. The site doesn't divide the remixes up by most downloads, most positive/negative reviews, or what have you, and by extension, it doesn't allow user made threads that do the same basic thing. Doing so results in remixes being ignored that might have otherwise at least been given a chance, simply because some people didn't like it, or because the remixer wasn't on someone's "OMG BESTEST" list. The goal is to have listeners... well, listen. And threads that name the same few remixers and tunes over and over as people's favorites pretty much fubars that concept, and results in mixes being passed over because no one mentioned them in "favorite remix/remixer thread #17597". OCR wants you to decide what you'll keep by hearing the songs. Not by going with popular vote. 2- Favorite game threads, like the remix/remixer ones, have been done to death. Franchises like Final Fantasy have had so many threads asking which one was your favorite, it was getting to the point of being like the movie Groundhog Day. You'd see them and think to yourself, Didn't we just do this? Such threads are also prime targets for flame-fests, as the moment someone disses the franchise (which always happens), the people who like it come to their beloved series' rescue and go after the supposed heretic that besmirched their game's good name (which also always happens). Bickering starts, and the cycle is complete. While the site supports people being able to discuss the games (and game music) they enjoy, the generalized threads dedicated to things like "Favorite Final Fantasy game", "Best Sonic game", "Favorite shmup", "Favorite Chrono Trigger song", "Favorite video game babe", "Favorite RPG weapon", "Favorite video game series", and so forth, will get the boot. Keep in mind, if you're new to a franchise that has a lot of installments, it's okay to ask people which one(s) would be a good starting point. If you're new to a particular genre, it's fine to ask for advice on which ones are worth getting. If you just picked up a system, you're free to ask for recommendations... especially if it's an older system that has a huge library of games. But if all you're wanting to do as ask people "what's you're favorite _______?", no matter how you try and word it, it will most likely be locked rather quickly. So there are the essentials behind why "favorite" threads are frowned upon. If you want to talk about a particular game, you can. If you want to compare and contrast the traits of a couple different series, you can. If you want to know what game holds a special place in the hearts of posters everywhere (and why it does), you can ask. But if you're just interested in knowing things like what everyones favorite healing spell is, your thread'll get shut down. Not because the mods don't like you, but because you stumbled upon an OCR "no-no".

The Politically Correct term for us is "Psychologically Challenged" thank you very much...

Wow. Just, wow. I finally beat a game I've had for a while now. It's only six levels, but it's a challenging six levels. But of all the challenges (including going backwards in one level), the final boss of R-Type III: The Third Lightning was a nasty little buttwad. You start off fighting a four armed "Brundle Fly" looking mutoid, that throws slow moving, but tracking, energy balls at you... usually three in succession. After that, one of the arms fires a good sized beam of energy. After You've been shooting the head for a while, the head opens up and about ten little nasty robotic bug like things come out. These things are tough, and take a good amount of shooting to kill off as they make their way towards you. Should you do enough damage to the head, it gets blown off, and now you can attack the body, which is the main area to damage so you can kill it. Well, you only get a short time to attack before a new head grows in, and you have to repeat the process. Eventually, you beat the body... and the arms then fly off. Now the arms are darting and spinning randomly around the screen. You have to shoot them a certain amount to trigger the next event. You can't destroy them, just shoot them. Should you survive long enough, the next phase kicks in. The postal that you had been sucked into just prior to the final boss, begins to shrink. The arms go out and grab the edge of the portal, slowing it's closing down. Once it's small enough, the thing's head appears in the opening, and it begin firing one homing (and fast) energy ball every few seconds. How you gotta shoot behind you. If you manage to beat that form, the head flattens out... and your ass gets kicked. It starts firing the speedy homing energy balls like there's no tomorrow. You gotta dodge, duck, weave, and pray like hell that you can last long enough, cuz this part in just nasty. I don't know what I did, where I hit it, or if I just outlasted it's bombardment, but I beat it. But I gotta say... that was a boss that did not go down easily. Hell... I was starting to wonder if the boss COULD be killed, having fought the thing so many times Edit: Major typos fixed... minor ones likely still present.

Anyone ever played a game called Fighting Masters on the Genesis? No? Well, then here's a little taste of what awaits you. The game is simple. The Galaxy is about to be destroyed, and you gotta fight through everyone for the right to be chosen as the single race that will be saved from destruction. But no matter who you pick, or how well you do, an ass beating awaits you when you reach the final boss. I can even remember the guys name. All I know is that he's bigger than you, just as fast, and has a single move that is the move cheap and damaging move in the entire game. Now, he can do some good damage with just a simple kick or punch, but God help you if he grabs you, and does his 3-hit "throw". He grabs you, hits you once with his fist, then kicks you twice. This simple move does almost half a bar of damage. But the fun doesn't end there. When he releases you, you fall to the ground... right at his feet. This of course, make it easy for him to grab you and do the 3-hitter again... and again. I've lost to this guy with him just doing the same move three times back to back to back... and I never even got a chance to attack. It's a simple fighting game, with painfully basic controls... and one of the cheapest final battles out there. Makes me appreciate Rugal of the KoF series' "easiness" more.

No, the chatroom was in fire... flames to be exact... for about two hours.

Fun show Larry. I killed the feed about 2PM so I could upload my remix to VGMix before I went to bed. Regardless, fun show. See ya next week... ... assuming you show up on time

Showing up late for your first night back. Not good form there Larry

So many newbies. It's like a swarm. ... Where's my "New-Begone" spray? Anyway, welcome to those who have come along since I was in here last. Be sure to read through all the pages here and in the "OCR Quirks" thread (which is also in this forum). They'll give tips and answer questions that'll likely come up later.

Sure, I mentioned him before in one of his previous incarnations, but Death from the Castlevania series was harder than hell on the first game, and considerably easier in the games that followed... until I reached him in Castlevania: Lament if Innocence. Maybe it's just me, or perhaps I'm just being given a really bad series of algorithms with this game, but every single time I try and get close to him, I get hit with his "DIE!" attack that knocks you back some 1/2 - 2/3 of the platform you're standing on. And by the time I get close enough to hit him, I get hit by it again... and again... and again. Sure, I've gotten by that attack and battled Death with his "MINION!" exploding skulls that follow you around for a short while, and his multiple scythe attacks (the slash and the "boomerang" throw)... and I even got far enough to battle his dual "DEADLY TEMPEST" blast. But while I am proud to say I beat him... once... I gotta say that either my luck is just bad in how many times I get that "DIE!" attack, or the game hates me

Typhon. For those who don't know this guy, he's part of the last boss at the end of a Genesis game called Phelios. But it's the other part of that last boss that's a real pain in the ass. See, Typhon has a little pet demon. After you defeat Typhon who fires a pretty simple pattern, you get to face his demon pet. And oh what a fun fight it is. First, you can only hurt him by pegging him in the crotch. Odd spot, but it works. Also, you can only hurt his crotch, by using a fully charged blast from your sword... a blast that can only be used if you collected all the letters to spell out Phelios. So now you're fighting him. One attack just has him firing a steady stream of destructible bullets at you. You'll need a fully sword charge to blast a hole big enough for you to slip sideways through. You won't get to hit him much here, but some luck shots can be done. Then he attacks you with a second set up. He closes his wings, and them opens them for a series of tri shots that go forward in a spreading fashion. None of this is really hard to dodge, but trying to hit him gets old. The part that makes him hard as hell, is the fact that the longer the fight goes, the lower down on the screen he gets... until he's literally so close you can't move forward without dying by contact with him. You have to knock him back by crotch shots, but after a while, he's so close that you can't fire the full blast fast enough to really push him back. So eventually, he's in your face attacking with both forms of shots. Oh... and you best hope you get the two options to help out. If you should miss one, you may as well let him finish you off and try again to get both. Cuz you're pretty well dead otherwise. Fun game, but it's got a ramp up in the difficulty that's rather abrupt at the end.

Here's a game I literally have never beaten, and I've owned it since shortly after it came out. The reason isn't just the "bosses", but the game itself. In Road Rash for the Genesis, you have to go through five rounds, with five races in each round. Each round gets harder as you go along. Now, I've been on Round 5 with two races won, and three races yet to be qualified for I don't know how many years now. You have to get 4th place or higher to qualify, but the lead bikers are so insanely fast, it's not possible to catch them. And they obviously never crash into anything, because the leader board never seems to change. I have the fastest bike, the best handling, and I'm pretty good at the game. But there is no way to catch these guys even if it was a flat barren wasteland with no objects anywhere on the road. But it's not like that at all. See, you need the fastest bike to have any hope in winning, as the lead bikers have them... or bikes close to them. The terrain is seriously hilly with damn sharp turns and traffic going both ways constantly. You have to go fast, but in doing so, you get launched off hills into cars, trees, and bad landings that result in big wrecks... which usually eliminates any progress you may have made up to that point. It takes about ten wrecks for your bike to break and knock you out of the race, and those ten wrecks come mighty quick in Round 5. So besides having insanely fast lead bikers, you have to choose with Road Rash. Do you wanna go slow and not even finish in the single digits, or do you wanna haul ass and wreck constantly? You don't have a middle ground, as slowing down for hills and turns makes anyone you passed come flying up behind you and either pass you or knock you off your bike. It's a no win situation as far as I can tell.

I have a confession. I enjoy the Sonic games, and generally the bosses in the 2D ones are pretty easy to dispose of. However, there is one that I have trouble with. In Sonic Advance, there's a boss towards the end that consists of three tiers of rotating platforms stacked on top of each other, with Dr. Robotnick's orb sitting atop them. On the bottom of each of these platforms, is a laser that can be destroyed. All along the sides of these platforms, are spikes to nail you with if you don't jump on them at a good angle. Now, these three platforms come out as seemingly random times, pause, shoot at you, and then return. The object is to hop on these platforms and hit Robotnick's dome to damage him... and that's where I get screwed. For the ease at which I can get rid of all the other bosses, my timing always seems to be off on this boss. Either the plat forms are too close and I get hit by one, the damned laser on one of them comes out and gets me in mid jump, or I finally get on the damn thing and try to hit Robotnick's dome only to see I don't have enough momentum to make it all the way to said dome. It's a simple boss. It only takes like 8-10 hits to destroy it, and the laser can be destroyed so they don't pose a threat anymore... but damn if my sense of timing, or the random patterns this boss puts out with its platform movement, will ever allow me an easy win over it. I've beaten it and seen the end, but every single time, that boss is a major pain in the ass for me. It's almost disheartening

I little while ago I found a game at my local EB Games that I figured "what the hell" and bought. It's called Wonder By in Monster World. Oh sure, it's got bright and cutesy graphics with SD characters and big eyed monsters and such, but it's also got one of the nastiest final bosses. You begin with a robotic looking thing that you have to hit on it's front. As you do this, lasers occasionally drop down and ride along a series of rails and fire at you. Now, this part is rather easy. It's what comes next that it a complete bitch. If you destroy it's first half, everything goes nuts. A conveyor belt starts moving, pushing to either rapidly towards or away from the boss, two lasers are now always on the rails shooting at you, and now there's a buzz saw blade moving back and forth along the conveyor belt. If you touch the boss, laser cannons, buzz saw or get hit by the lasers, you loose health AND get bounced back... usually into one of the other objects moving around. Somehow, you have to hit the boss in the eye a bunch of times to kill it with your sword, but you're too busy getting bounced all around and pinned in place to even get the thing half way dead before you run out of potions and such to heal yourself. It's amazing how easy that little game is up until you reach that final boss.

you're a moron for even trying to talk here. no, i'm kidding, it's always cool to see a new face around here. Also, i'm another member of the illustrious nintendo faithfull, having been suckled on the NES, and eventually weened onto the SNES, the N64, and eventually onto the 'Cube. I think we need to start a "nintendo fanboy's only" club, and we could put a cool little icon in our sigs to show our allegiance. if i can get a few people to agree, we can start a thread about it in gendisc. w00t!!1 wtflol!!1 I believe that thread was already done. It was called "Why does everyone hate the Gamecube?". It drew fanboys from EVERYWHERE.

Sorry man. Once they're gone around here, them fuckers are gone for good, because by the time the other posters have gotten done using them for nefarious purposes... ... well, you won't want them back.

You could, but I would suggest waiting until the original thread has been deleted due to inactivity (takes a month of no one posting in a thread for that to happen). Otherwise, you'll be getting a fist full of flames in a very short amount of time for not only going over the same topic again, but for posting a new thread about it while your old thread is still going.

New tip. This one comes via example of our new OCR Roastie, myonlyomen. Don't make your very first thread about a particularly hot topic. Unless your arguement is well thought out and it's presented in a clear manner, it likely won't end well for you

As per Eradicate's Request. How NOT to have a political Discussion Do I even want to know what the request was behind the chubby faced kid's visage showing up? And that thread was OCR's version of a Friar's Club Roast.

You are too old, old man. You may think you is but you ain't down with the current slango. roofies - Strangly enough, a mental image of the Coop singing Da Roofies on fire!! will probably follow me to my dreams now. The Coop being represented by a dancing baby with a NWG face, that is. A dancing baby? I'm guessing the dancing baby was already in there from a previous dream, and now the music and NGW face are just add ons... ... which is a bit frightening.

On fire? Da roo... da roo... da roofies on fire!

And then at 2am PST, we'll all be having a sing along of Kumbaya, followed by Smores! ... **cough** Sorry. Way too much in the way of happy-happy joy-joy feelings here. Not good for my system in such high doses at this hour