BardicKnowledge Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 I love valk -- I think she's tied for my favorite char to play with Wildsoul. Calling a shot from max javelin range, and landing a 7 second stun feels great.
Tensei Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 My favorite heroes at the moment are Pestilence and Zephyr (mainly because Zephyr apparently means an insta-win for me unless the teams are severely rigged and we would have lost no matter what I picked ).
relyanCe Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 wowowowow night hound played him for the first time and man is he such an easy farmer. Had vanguard, treads, 2 soulscreams, agi buckler, and wingblade 25 minutes in (then the game ended). I was 7-0
Dhsu Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 Sounds like the other team was just terrible.
BardicKnowledge Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 Does anyone else get 3 soulscream rings / bracers on certain characters? Especially playing Valk, I've found that 3 rings really helps more than two, and makes her viable without expensive stuff a LOT longer.
zircon Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 My item builds depend on the kind of game I'm playing. If it's a game where I'm dying a lot and/or are getting constantly outlaned, I get items with better buildups, or simply cheaper items, to enhance my abilities sooner. If I am doing fine already, I save up for the big stuff earlier on.
relyanCe Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 Does anyone else get 3 soulscream rings / bracers on certain characters? Especially playing Valk, I've found that 3 rings really helps more than two, and makes her viable without expensive stuff a LOT longer. on ranged agility heroes, i always get 3 soulscreams to start. it gives you a valuable stats edge early game.
Tensei Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 What zircon said, basically. With Pestilence, I usually start with 2x runes and logger's hatchet. Unless I'm getting REALLY outlaned (which is quite rare), I completely skip bracers and get Helm of the Victim (950 gold) from the outpost asap which provides armor and regen, making me immune from most earlygame harassment, and providing a buildup towards Insanitarius. Speaking of Insanitarius, words can't express my love for this item on certain STR heroes. Besides adding some very nice passive stats (regen, damage, attack speed), upon activation it provides a HUGE non-scalable dps boost (so it's perfect for earlygame ganking), as well as an instant ~500 health. Downside being you lose 35 hp per second as long as it's activated. Uses for this are infinite: you can use it to destroy almost anything 1v1 early-midgame with the huge damage boost, you can activate it just before what would be an otherwise lethal nuke, and it's just generally great to activate it as you're about to die and hightail it out of there (or turn the tables on the sucker who was thinking he'd get an easy kill ).
eternal Zero Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 I will turn your tier list on its head!! But not really. Even the competitive friends I play with hate it when I go Arma. He's solid but he creates a completely different playstyle for the team that revolves around him.
zircon Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 But I mean, what's special about him? Stat-wise he isn't that great, and really his big thing is the damage reduction from behind. His spine shooting thing is laughable which leaves him with an OK stacking slow/debuff and the ability to buff himself a bit. Also, obviously you're far superior to any of us, so you can play any character well - it doesn't mean that your Armadon is better than your Pesti.
anosou Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 But I mean, what's special about him? Stat-wise he isn't that great, and really his big thing is the damage reduction from behind. His spine shooting thing is laughable which leaves him with an OK stacking slow/debuff and the ability to buff himself a bit. Also, obviously you're far superior to any of us, so you can play any character well - it doesn't mean that your Armadon is better than your Pesti. Read up on spines, it's not laughable. It stacks and his slow -armor. Also, spines when you kite and tank means more spine stacks. He can rack up some pretty fat damage when he's farmed Mock. He was a potent jungler in DotA I heard, never tried it but that might definitely help him rape more. but yeah, I don't have much to say because I don't have the experience.
zircon Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 This game has been extremely frustrating for me lately.
Dhsu Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 Read up on spines, it's not laughable. It stacks and his slow -armor. Also, spines when you kite and tank means more spine stacks. He can rack up some pretty fat damage when he's farmed Mock. He was a potent jungler in DotA I heard, never tried it but that might definitely help him rape more.but yeah, I don't have much to say because I don't have the experience. Someone explain to me what kite means, and more importantly WHY IN THE HAIL PEOPLE CAN'T JUST TALK ENGLISH.
zircon Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 A lot of these terms are carried over from MMOs. Kiting is basically when you can outrun someone while still attacking them at range - thus they have no way of fighting back. The way you get faster is usually with some kind of slowing disable, the best example being Arachna's webbed shot.
BardicKnowledge Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 I've discovered that I rarely have a good time when I get heroes I don't play often / don't like. Therefore, I'm going to play less SD -- I feel that a lot of the frustration lately has come from having to make the best of bad draws. RD and AP alt-pick ftw.
Tensei Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 This game has been extremely frustrating for me lately. You obviously need to play more 2v2 AREM. Or 2v2 duplicate heroes Blacksmith only.
Battousai Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 I learned to play DotA in sd mode and I think it helps you get a feel for the different types of heroes and the playstyles associated with them. You can play the same hero ad-nauseum in ap all you want, but as soon as someone else picks him or you end up in rd mode you don't know quite what to do. I love the blacksmith meme for some reason.
Kidd Cabbage Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 If you're looking to learn new heroes, then why bother with SD? Just go AR so your opponents don't have a chance to play heroes that they know better than yours (or counter it).
Tensei Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 But what if they random soapiadon, and flood the entire map with his ult!?! I mean, it's the entire ocean!
bladiator Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 But what if they random soapiadon, and flood the entire map with his ult!?! I mean, it's the entire ocean! KiddCabbage, I love you.
Dhsu Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 rofl You should add "While underwater, all units experience the 'drowning' status effect, which drains 100HP every second. Zephyr is not affected."
Tensei Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 what why zephyr is a bird birds cant breathe underwater thats just crazy edit: oh im dumb he can obviously just fly above it durrrr
Dhsu Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 Also this would kill every creep on the map (except Kongor, he's too tall) so you could pretty much get a Behemoth's Heart after one cast.
Tensei Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 I love Soapiadon's first skill the most, it makes an illusion that lasts for 1 second at level 1.
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