Fishy Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a298614/square-enix-reveals-final-fantasy-xiii-2.html Someone tell me this is a fucking joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unstable Hamster Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Director Motomu Toriyama has said that fans have been asking for a follow-up, which is set to address the complaints of the original game. That's news to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDX Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 but the main character didn't even die!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Strader Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Poopie idea. I loved FFX but FFX2 was the start of a downhill spiral. FF13 was pretty universally recognized as lame so it'd be really strange if FF13-2 was the beginning of an upward spiral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XZero Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 This was announced/reported a couple of days ago. I, for one, am kind of optimistic with it. FFXIII had its problems. The whole game consisted of one long corridor. Then you get to the closest thing to an overworld and realize you can't handle most of the monsters there because it's the post-game section. Then you either give up or press onward depending on how invested you are in the story. Then you beat the game, realize that the post-game stuff is a waste of time, and give up. Additionally, it's story, while interesting and better than several other FF games, was told VERY poorly. It started like an hour into the storyline with absolutely no basis for anything. FFX kind of did this, but it was different because there, you, like Tidus, were experiencing this new world for the first time. Here, all of the characters clearly are in on something that the player doesn't know or understand, and it shouldn't take 20-25 hours of gameplay to get into the story. All of that said, FFXIII did have potential, which is why I'm optimistic for a XIII-2. Opinions are pretty much split down the middle on the battle system, but I'll admit that once I figured it out, I generally liked it. It's not as intuitive as FFI-VII, IX, and X, but it worked well. Here, in my opinion, are the things they need to do to make XIII-2 good: (1) Retain the battle system, perhaps with some refinements (2) Take that giant map area and make it a bit bigger. Then label it "overworld." Then scatter some towns, castles, dungeons, temples, etc. around it (3) Simplify the story and gradually layer on complexity. Don't put players into a world that requires reading the freaking in-game encyclopedia to understand. (4) Kill Hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Originally Posted by digitalspy Director Motomu Toriyama has said that fans have been asking for a follow-up, which is set to address the complaints of the original game. As opposed to say a free, not 60 dollar patch. But then again it is really hard to patch everything about the game. Also all three fans have been asking for a follow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BardicKnowledge Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Damn, what a terrible idea. Looks like all the talent has left Square for greener pastures at this point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Strader Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Kill Hope. I laughed when I read that but I've got to agree there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupernikus Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Also all three fans have been asking for a follow up. Yep, all 3 fans of the best selling FF game to date. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vagrance Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 All of that said, FFXIII did have potential, which is why I'm optimistic for a XIII-2. Opinions are pretty much split down the middle on the battle system, but I'll admit that once I figured it out, I generally liked it. It's not as intuitive More or less this. If FFXIII-2 is kinda like Assassin's Creed II was to the first one then I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekofrog Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Yep, all 3 fans of the best selling FF game to date. lol. You're joking, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share Posted January 19, 2011 More or less this. If FFXIII-2 is kinda like Assassin's Creed II was to the first one then I'm all for it. 1. Remove annoying features. 2. Add some new annoying features, but generally flesh out the concept to flow better. 3. Replace main character with more promiscuous and mouthy clone. 4. Aliens 5. ???? 6. Profit Although just steps 5 and 6 on their own seems to be Squeenix's modus operandi lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 You're joking, right? It is prolly only the best selling to date cause of population inflation. There are more people alive now than when FF4 - 6 came out, which are the only good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambinate Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 man this company is fucking out of touch also ffxiii isn't the best selling ff (so far it has sold the least of the major numbered ff games of the playstation era (which is still like 4 and a half million copies worldwide)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekofrog Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 It is prolly only the best selling to date cause of population inflation. There are more people alive now than when FF4 - 6 came out, which are the only good one. I meant it in a "you can't be that much of a moron" way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiGi Valentine Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Anyone noticing the part where it's been mentioned they're apparently releasing it this year? Quoted from Kotaku - "The game won't have the wait that Final Fantasy XIII did. According to Square Enix, it will be released in 2011."So ..that must mean it's been in development alongside FFXIII-1 then? And ...that could mean it could possibly contain the same problems that Part 1 did? Or i could be wrong.Just an observation and some speculation. Also, I have to admit that Versus XIII looks interesting if only because the setting seems so 'original' for a Final Fantasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaki-LEGEND.sys Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 More likely than not it'll reuse similar assets as well as probably be made up of all those assets and content that Toriyama says were allegedly scrapped from the original. The idea that these assets exist lead me to believe that the original game was intended to be less linear than it was at its completion. Also, the game has sold close to 6 million copies since after 2 months of its western release. Even more interesting is that for all the vitriol being tossed around, there's still an even greater amount of people who thought it was excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phalanx Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Also, I have to admit that Versus XIII looks interesting if only because the setting seems so 'original' for a Final Fantasy. It really looks like a knock-off of Kingdom Hearts in terms of combat system. Which may or may not be good--I enjoyed the KH fighting system, so perhaps they refined it. GOD they need to insert some color into that game. And whoever designed the character outfits needs to be shot; they are the most uninspired shit I've seen in a long while. Black on black with a Cinema Snob sport's jacket does not a hero make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyanCe Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 i'm excited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekofrog Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 More likely than not it'll reuse similar assets as well as probably be made up of all those assets and content that Toriyama says were allegedly scrapped from the original.The idea that these assets exist lead me to believe that the original game was intended to be less linear than it was at its completion. Also, the game has sold close to 6 million copies since after 2 months of its western release. Even more interesting is that for all the vitriol being tossed around, there's still an even greater amount of people who thought it was excellent. Guess how many of those copies were returned? Japan was literally FLOODED with returns after the initial purchase, bringing the game's NEW price down after probably a month, and selling at a USED price so low that it was mind numbing. I'd like to see you find these people that "thought it was excellent". I guaran-fucking-tee you I can find more that hated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephfire Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Well, FFX-2 ended up having my favorite FF battle system ever. We'll see, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshaggyfreak Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I'm a Final Fantasy whore. I'll play it. I totally loved X-2 and it actually was more fun than X itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaki-LEGEND.sys Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Guess how many of those copies were returned? Japan was literally FLOODED with returns after the initial purchase, bringing the game's NEW price down after probably a month, and selling at a USED price so low that it was mind numbing.I'd like to see you find these people that "thought it was excellent". I guaran-fucking-tee you I can find more that hated it. I'm sure you can pull out as many numbers as you need to, but making a "might makes right" argument wasn't what I was trying to do here. My point was that for a game that was "critically panned"(I think Edge was the only one that gave it a scathing review), the lowest point in the FF series and a game that everyone hated, there's a surprisingly high number of people that enjoyed the game and thought it was great. Just read the comments pages or threads on different games coverage sites like 1up or (amazingly enough)Kotaku. As for the sales, 6 million is a huge number so naturally you're going to cast a wider net for reactions, but even if a quarter of that figure resold the game or didn't like it(which are 2 different things entirely), that's still close to 4 million people who might have enjoyed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote-Trickster Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 *looks at calender* They moved ahead the "beating the dead horse" session by 6 months, I hate missing memos. Seriously though, keep beating that horse until it becomes undead and eats all our brains. ...wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyanCe Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 trailer hits tomorrow. i'm gonna have to stop mark-hunting and beat the game tonight so I don't feel clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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