Brandon Strader Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 That would be plausible... until they realized that none of the proceeds actually make it TO the artists. How would they realize this? The site says they do pay the artists. I guess when it comes right down to it, you have to trust that sites actually do what they say they do. That's something that I've grown weary about concerning sites and people in general, you never know what they do and there's no way to tell if they're doing things properly. It's hard to trust the internet. But for someone who doesn't know about OCR and comes across "Legal Sounds", it sounds like a legitimate enough name for someone who isn't fluent in internet. Not sure what I am even trying to argue at this point, just that you can't trust internetsites, which has been established I think. OC ReMix is a pretty trustworthy looking site, but it might look even more trustworthy if they release the new site design Quote
Mirby Posted January 27, 2012 Author Posted January 27, 2012 True, true. But there's also the fact that OCR comes up pretty highly in search results. Quote
Dj Mokram Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 Someone posted a very interesting comment on that FB page: The domain legalsounds.com is registered through tucows.com. Filing a complaint against tucows—especially a DMCA takedown filing if you have the resources—is the surest way to get legalsounds.com taken down before the same database merely pops up again under another name.Might be wrth investigating...OCR comes up pretty highly in search results. And these are the first results I get. Quote
psychowolf Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 i posted a comment basically linking stevo's link from destructoid about them selling the ocremix albums. anything to help send word out about this scam. Quote
Gario Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 Someone on Newgrounds posted these little bits. They might be helpful. Quote
Nabeel Ansari Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 Someone on Newgrounds posted these little bits. They might be helpful. None of this would work, since they're in Russia and have no one to answer to. Quote
Mirby Posted January 27, 2012 Author Posted January 27, 2012 Except for the fact that it's been proven in this thread already that their legal policy doesn't exactly match up to Russia's, among other things. Quote
Brandon Strader Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 Who actually owns the copyright on ReMixes though? The original composers? Quote
Benjamin Briggs Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 Who actually owns the copyright on ReMixes though? The original composers? yyyyup, or possibly the companies that employ(ed) them oh wait. I know nothing about copyright Quote
Mirby Posted January 27, 2012 Author Posted January 27, 2012 Doesn't mean we can't get them for hosting the actual soundtracks that some of the people in the community have made, like the Mighty Switch Force OST that was found or any of the undoubtedly countless others. Or the original music too. Quote
Gario Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 None of this would work, since they're in Russia and have no one to answer to. Russia is specifically addressed, actually. Not that I can promise it'll work, but don't ignore it off the bat like that. Quote
Mustin Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 The arranger owns the copyright to their arrangement. But the original composition is owned by the copyright owner. If it's "Streets of Rage 2," it's Yuzo Koshiro. If it's "Koopa's Theme," it's Nintendo. If it's "Chrono Trigger," it's Square-Enix. And if it's "Xenogears," it's Yasunori Mitsuda. It just all depends on what the composer, the purchaser and the publisher all decided. That said, it's illegal for this company to do what it does. And it's just wrong to have a site that's called "LegalSounds" when it is in fact NOT legal and it is deceiving to the customer because they're under the impression that they are not doing anything wrong. /runon The Tucows thing sounds like a good idea! Quote
Mirby Posted January 28, 2012 Author Posted January 28, 2012 The arranger owns the copyright to their arrangement. But the original composition is owned by the copyright owner. If it's "Streets of Rage 2," it's Yuzo Koshiro. If it's "Koopa's Theme," it's Nintendo. If it's "Chrono Trigger," it's Square-Enix. And if it's "Xenogears," it's Yasunori Mitsuda. It just all depends on what the composer, the purchaser and the publisher all decided. That said, it's illegal for this company to do what it does. And it's just wrong to have a site that's called "LegalSounds" when it is in fact NOT legal and it is deceiving to the customer because they're under the impression that they are not doing anything wrong. /runon The Tucows thing sounds like a good idea! A semicolon might have solved the run-on there a bit. Also, I agree. Contact Tucows; since the site's not willing to compromise (they literally just deleted Lucid Dreaming from their servers, not bothering to remove any links as shown in pu_freak's page there) or do anything at all with this recent revelation, go over their heads. Quote
JackKieser Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 Wow, Russia is trolling you guys hard. Definitely a thread subscription. popcorn.gif Quote
AngelCityOutlaw Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 Wow, Russia is trolling you guys hard. Definitely a thread subscription.popcorn.gif I was really wondering when you would show up. Quote
JackKieser Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 I've had midterms to get ready for, so I've been a little busy. Better late then never, though. ^_~ Quote
Meteo Xavier Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 I bet it was YOU that sold us out you communist swine! > When you get back to the Kremlin, tell Lenin's face to kiss my ass. He knows where to find it. Quote
JackKieser Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 It was the best 0.09$ per song that I've never earned. Worth every non-penny. Quote
HoboKa Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 I hear there's a pretty big industry out there for stealing intellectual property and selling it to websites and recording companies - then the true artists who complain, end up getting blackmailed/threatened. Them hackers(and/or 'hacks' in general) will stoop to any level to make a quick buck off of ya Quote
Brandon Strader Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 For all we know, legalsounds could be cutting checks to the original composers Quote
Gario Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 Wouldn't mean that they weren't breaking the terms of service for this site as well as others that use Creative Commons copyright (which amounts to very little, but it's there). Quote
Mirby Posted January 28, 2012 Author Posted January 28, 2012 Wouldn't mean that they weren't breaking the terms of service for this site as well as others that use Creative Commons copyright (which amounts to very little, but it's there). Aren't they already? Quote
Xenon Odyssey Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 Wait, wouldn't have SOPA stopped sites like this? guys what have we done Quote
psychowolf Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 Wait, wouldn't have SOPA stopped sites like this?guys what have we done SOPA would of stopped this site aswell. Quote
Rozovian Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 For all we know, legalsounds could be cutting checks to the original composers The arrangers still own, as Mustin said, the rights to the arrangement. If the site was legal, all the original stuff from bandcamp and elsewhere should also be yielding artists here some dough. Is it? Quote
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