AngelCityOutlaw

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I find it odd that plenty of people are okay with subscription-based games, but not okay with DLC. So it's okay to pay 12.99 a month for an RPG, but not okay to pay that same amount or less every six months when Capcom releases some new DLC characters whose code happened to already be present on the disc. It's money to actually play the same game for another month vs. money to add optional features to extend the longevity of your game at your discretion. Baffles me that most people seem to side with the former. I also find it odd that people don't like free to play games of popular franchises in a world where the playable demo is dying.

I would very much be interested in doing something for this. However, too many commitments + arm injuries at the moment means it would be a couple of months before I could get anything to you.

and holy shit,

This is awesome. The Ridge Racer soundtracks have always been somewhat of a mixed bag to me. This thing does need to be longer though. It's great =D

Wtf is going on in this thread?

Any comment against FL Studio makes you mad

You know, when I saw that Meteo Xavier was the most recent poster I thought "Here comes a gloomy comment from the most jaded person on this site" You did not disappoint

When I was very young, like as far back as I can remember, I would hear music in my head. I would hum little melodies and put funny words to them. The ability to create music in such a way is something I think is just part of being human. But I got serious about it when I was 11 and got my first electric guitar and wanted to write music like Guns N Roses. Since then, I've destroyed my brain with music theory and the guitar.

Uhhhhh what?

It was just a summer job setting up drive-in movies. Pretty much everything is heavy as shit. Especially with just two people sometimes. The company I worked for also had a LOT of shady as hell business practices. So when I went to the doctor today I called them up and basically said "Yeah, shove it."

So I just got back from the doctor's. Work related injuries has given tendonitis like a motherfucker in both arm. I feel like I have friggin' T-Rex arms right now. Fellow musicians, I have never had this before. but I know that you CAN get it via playing an instrument. Have you ever had it? How long did it take to recover?

Well, I just re-checked and I guess I did include an MP3 export with the MIDI on my disc. If you PM me with an email address, I could email it to you on Sunday. Thing is, I don't think the remix was very good and it did fail the panel. Who knows though, someday, perhaps a better version will be made.

I shall do that. I'm on the road with work until Sunday though, so I'll shoot you a message then!

I am touched that you remember. I'm not exactly working on it though. That remix now exists only as a MIDI on one of my back-up discs. I do agree that the music from the series needs more remixing. Actually, Timaeus and I , but wound up doing the Metroid remix instead.

The 20th century narratives could just as easily be classical era compared to ancient music or some other, older point in history. My point with technology is that it has allowed us to create music and share ideas in a way that was not previously possible. It has given musicians access to more tools (like new instruments) to work with and couple that with a more advanced understanding of the mechanics of music. How does that not allow for improvement? Saying technology hasn't helped improve music would be kind of like arguing that technology hasn't improved film-making. Film-makers have more tools than ever to realize their "vision" in ways that previously were not possible. See, the problem I and most people who are with me on the "music is not entirely subjective after all" point have with this kind of reasoning is that it is too philosophical and doesn't provide any real answers. Like, what do you mean by the value of music by its "truth"? What is that supposed to mean? What about truth in instrumental music? What? Placing personal value on music for its "truthfulness" to you is far more abstract of a question than instrumentation, production values etc. As I said earlier about country music, I don't like the genre that much specifically for its lyrical themes (depressing as hell), and instrumentation (perhaps that's influenced by the "truth" thing), BUT I can still recognize when it is a well made piece. Which again is why I'm saying if there were no objectivity then I wouldn't be able to do that.The bottom line of my entire thinking in this thread is this: People who believe music is subjective entirely will argue that till the end of time. However, my belief that it is not totally subjective has greatly helped me improve my own music. I think that the belief that it is objective is a key part of music's evolution throughout the ages. Beethoven, Mozart, Bach (or many other great composers) all followed sometimes very strict "rules" for composing music. They didn't believe it was completely subjective, academic music study doesn't believe it is totally subjective, OCR doesn't seem to believe it is totally subjective; as evidenced by their high standards and several musicians in this thread don't seem to believe it is completely subjective either. You know something I just realized by typing that? I don't think that the musicians who say "it's subjective, man" with a few exceptions, are the ones who have contributed to the evolution of the art form nearly as much as the people who say it isn't subjective.

Yeah, I still want to do some orchestra stuff with it for sure.

Production is baffling sometimes though. Like, if you check out Motley Crue's 1994 album or Juno Reactor's collab with Traci Lords it still sounds current. At least, it does to me. I'm not sure how anyone could say music hasn't been improving in all honesty. Just centuries ago, the most harmonically complex that many European pieces got was by harmonizing everything in parallel perfect intervals. As far as I know, the triadic system we use now is relatively recent compared to music of eras past which were more simplistic. Not to mention, most genres of music (at least popular ones) are less than 100 years old. Rock, electronic, funk, disco, etc. are all from the 20th century. We have more instruments, better technology and all of this allows us to access previously untapped creative potential.If you really think about it, music has been the slowest evolving of human art forms despite being one of the oldest. Today, we understand so much more about how it works and why. We have such powerful technology to create music on our own or with other musicians across vast distances. Composers and theorists in the past made great music; they made discoveries that set the groundwork and gave us the knowledge to create what we have today. However, I have no doubt that if we could ask them, they would have given most anything to be writing music in our time.

Would anyone be interested in collaborating with me on Bloodlines? I'm kinda stuck at the moment and I like working with other musicians anyway.

See, this is something people say all the time, but I don't believe it's true. At least, I don't believe it's 100% true. If it were, I could just throw together any random sequence of notes, call myself a composer and say that my music is just as good as John Williams. We all know that isn't the case though. Just like I couldn't make my own copy of the Mona Lisa with one eye slightly larger than the other, little variety in color, etc. and say that it's just as good as Leonardo's. To imply or explicitly state that music, or any art for that matter is purely a matter of taste is something I personally find somewhat insulting. Because it makes it sound like centuries of work done by composers, music theorists, and sound engineers in the 20th and into the 21st century was all meaningless. Why bother to learn it at all if it's all just so "subjective"? I disagree, all of these things, the "rules" exist because the people who discovered them realized it made their music (art) better. That's why we have the same chord progressions that are re-used in countless pieces. There is a standard that the art can be held against. If music is just totally subjective, I guess colleges and universities should just stop teaching their composition students music theory and forget studying the works of Bach or Mozart. I don't believe that any art is completely subjective. I think the fact that you can "improve" at it is evidence to that point. What is subjective though, is your preference in it. As I said earlier, I don't really like the genre of country music, but I can still listen to a country song and realize that it is well written, performed and produced. I don't think that I would be able to say that if there wasn't SOME objective standard that applies to all music.

I figured this is a better spot on the forum to share this. This game just game out yesterday on the App store! It is a great looking fighting game with thousands of frames of hand drawn animation! The artist/developer was a full-time concept artist for Ubisoft, so you know he's got mad skills. Check out the trailer here: If this looks interesting to you, you can get the full game on the app store here: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/id427557757?mt=8&s=143455 There is also a "Lite" i.e., free-to-play version available here: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/id665730052?mt=8&s=143455 I have a personal connection to this game, as it was the first game I ever got to compose some music for! I did so when I was 19 years old and a couple of my tracks were remixed (including the one in the trailer) with super-awesome production quality by composer and VGM remixer Glyn R. Brown. You may recognize the announcer's voice, as he has also done voice work for Dragon Ball, Megaman X, Dynasty Warriors and Gundam! In total, it has taken these talented people 4 years to make the game! So why not give it a download? Rate the app, tell your friends and if you don't like any of the music, I really hope you enjoy the game!

This track is great. Can't wait to hear the final version.

Vanden Plas is epic as hell

The demo sounds great.

Fair enough. Also, nah, I'm not formally trained with music theory. I just became a nerd about it when I was a teenager. Because 1. It's fun 2. It made my music sound better 3. It made me feel smarter than the local metal bands who don't know what a G chord is. 4. I realized that music is the only thing in life that I am even vaguely good at. So I became obsessed with how it works.