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Moving to WIP for the time being. Since djp is heavily involved with the organization of the proj, this may go to the SP forum earlier than normal, but for now, I'm going to follow my MO.

You know what? I really like this. I love that lead at 1:19; one of my favorite kinds of sounds, and everything going on behind it really ramps up the energy. I don't have that many technical issues with this song. It sounds clean enough, and the piano and guitar really add some nice color to the synthy stuff. Nice arrangement, nice sounds, nice work all around. YES

Vig pretty much summed it up. No attention paid to balance here at all. I don't think you really understand what's going on musically in this song, and just tried to come up with a few sounds to apply to the material. Dig in deeper, understand the melodies and harmonies, and write. Don't just slap some sounds on the channels and call it a remix. NO

Trained ear? More like the ears of self-proclaimed 'audiophiles.' I would think that it'd be the remixers themselves who actually have the 'trained ears.' In any case, if you think it's a pity that there's no topic explaining how to properly encode MP3s, feel free to make one. You seem to know a bit about the subject, and it's better to contribute than to complain.

Way to abuse power. I'm totally going to report you and have DarkeSword close your project, dude. Or I could just revoke his powers.

I've thought long and hard about this mix and I'm going to vote NO, as well as ask djpretzel for a policy clarification as to chiptunes of this nature. First, let me say that the arrangement in this mix is very good. Lots of great interpretation harmonically and rhythmically. The whole thing is a really enjoyable listen. The problem here is that with OCRs, we're striving for sound quality in terms of texture and design. Don't get me wrong; I love NES chiptunes, and listen to them on a regular basis, and I can certainly appreciate the texture of squares, triangles, and noise working in tandem. However, I think that OCR strives to elevate what we listen to beyond the simple textures of yesterdecade. An arrangement like this is, from a certain POV, limited by the bounds of the NES sound, and I believe that it could be better with some creative effects and signal processing. The arrangement, as I said, is great, but sometimes it seems like Sam is trying to compensate for the lack of more complex sound design by tricking out the arrangement as much as possible. Overcompensation? Perhaps. Does it matter? Probably not; I just judge the end product, but I think it bears mentioning that this could be on the very opposite extreme of a MIDI-rip; instead of trying to compensate for lack of arrangement with killer sound design, the simple sound design is compensated with killer arrangement. Ultimately though, I think that a pure NES chiptune, while fantastic and enjoyable in its own right, doesn't really match up to what we're looking for at OCR.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

I didn't know people still read that.

Looks like someone didn't read the rules and posted a review in the other thread. Because I'm not totally heartless, I'm going to quote the review here.

Moved to WIP after a week! Get to work!

If you're talking about the "Chrono_Symphonic_Mirror_Pack_(mp3).rar" on my server, I didn't use that one. I made a .rar of the mp3 folder from the torrent. perhaps that wasn't clear enough?? Compy, there's nothing wrong with herograw providing a rar file of the MP3s as they're released on the torrent. You can never have 'enough' mirrors. If this helps to alleviate bandwidth consumption, isn't that all the better? The point is getting the music out there, and there are no errors with the tagging or filenames, because the files in this rar are taken directly from the torrent download, so rest easy.

There are direct links on the website for you to download the MP3s one-by-one.

While it's nice, it really doesn't have anything to do with Chrono Symphonic. It's really just run-of-the-mill CT fanart. So no, I don't see this going into the torrent.

This is exactly what I was trying to convey with the piece. If you've ever played the X series, you know that X absolutely hates fighting and wants to live a peaceful life. He doesn't take any pleasure in killing repliods, and even in the Zero series, he turns into something more saint-like. Often times you hear really rocked out versions Megaman music, because the music is like that, and it's supposed to get you pumped, but I always liked X as a character because despite being a robot, he has a kind of humanity to him; I tried to bring that out in this piece.

I've made an addendum to the rules. 7. Do not post requests for music directly from the games themselves or professionally released arrangements (i.e. The Black Mages). This forum is for making requests to the remixers for a song you would like to see remixed.

Yeah. I envy those guys' ability in that area. They take the free stuff and work miracles. I have the ability to consistently make Reason's decent orkester library sound like crap spewing from a marching band tuba at haltime. Unknown needs to create a tutorial or something explaining how he does that. I'd pay money. Seriously. It's not that difficult; just use the right amounts of reverb and stereo separation, and pay attention to velocities. Write realistic rhythms, and know the limitations of your sounds. You need to treat a violin sample as a violin sample, not a real violin, and understand its limitations. That's how I approach sequencing any 'real' instrument, and it's what I did when I wrote my tracks for this project.

This project is progressing so quickly that I predict it will be done yesterday. Moved to WIP! GO GO GO DOOOOOOOOOOoooooommmm......

You can always read the script while listening.

In my defense (), the project's main idea was 'movie score.' I wrote these tracks to underscore what was happening in the scenes I wrote for; I had the script open while I was composing these. Doing something in the style of a movie score doesn't automatically mean 'Hollywood quality sounds;' it means accentuating what the audience sees with what the audience hears. That's not to say that movie scores can't or shouldn't be strong melodically, but the approach I took with these two tracks was different than the approach taken when writing standalone tracks. Actually, it's one of the (very few) things that I don't like about this project; some of the songs try to stand on their own too much rather than strive to be integral with 'the movie;' the most serious offender being Blue Skies Over Guardia! In retrospect, it would have been a better idea to use something more akin to djpretzel's Jethro and Vash at the Fair; if I was watching a CT movie and Blue Skies was playing the whole time that Crono and Marle were at the fair, I'd get sick of it. In the context of the project's theme of 'movie score,' I think that The Rising and, in particular, Crono's Dream, are successful pieces, and I'm very proud of what I was able to accomplish as far as melding thematic material and invoking certain moods. I'm not an orchestral arranger (despite past arrangements I've done), which is why they're simple pieces, but I think that they're some of my best works in terms of realizing the original intent I composed them with.

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You couldn't read the first five words? Don't be so indignant.

Thanks man; I'd be interested in hearing some more in depth comments later in this thread, if you don't mind.

Just set your BT client to NOT download the flac files if you don't want them. Any BitTorrent client worth the space it occupies on your harddrive is able to deal with multifile torrents and file selectability.

Thanks Larry. I was just about to post the same thing.

Now that anyone everyone has had a few days to cool off, I'm going to unlock this thread. If you have anything constructive to say, you can say it, but needless whining, complaining, moaning, etc is not welcome. Please take note that even though it's 2006, we are still in the 10th anniversary year of Chrono Trigger, as the game was not released until mid/late 1995, so nobody missed the 10th anniversary and Chrono Trigger is still awesome blah blah blah. This thread will remain open after the normal release comes out so that project members and the general community can discuss the pending release of the Special Edition. All FEEDBACK/REVIEWS of Chrono Symphonic must be posted in the feedback and comments thread that will be created upon the release of the project. Any reviews that are written in THIS thread will be deleted. I made this text big because I just know that people are going to post reviews here anyway. You've been told the procedure in obnoxious, size 18, bolded text. Follow it, and don't complain when your review gets deleted.