zircon Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Special offer for OCR members only! $10 off and $10 of each sale gets donated to the site! Click here to get the Kontakt 2/EXS/Halion version, and here for the Reason version. I'm proud to announce that the newest Impact Soundworks sample library, Groove Bias: Vintage Drum Sounds, is officially available at a special price for OC ReMix members! Not only are bustatunez and I offering this sound collection at a discount, but for every copy we sell we'll donate $10 to OCR. Just remember to use the purchase links in THIS POST. We've spent over half a year working on this collection and we're really proud of the final result - but don't take our word for it... read on for more info + demos. The goal of this project was to create a set of deeply sampled acoustic drumkits inspired by classic 50s, 60s and 70s records and the timeless breakbeats we all know and love. For decades, these sounds have been imitated and sampled over and over, but many producers have preferred to try and capture old kits with pristine, modern recording methods. Not so with this library. Our motto was "the more tubes, the better," and we armed ourselves to the teeth with beat-up mics, analog gear, vintage drums and tape machines. Key Features: * Three custom drum kits and a set of percussion recorded at three separate studios * Only classic kits, gear, mics and techniques used for a true vintage sound. * 3,500 samples (4gb) of unlocked audio content for your editing pleasure. * Recorded into Pro Tools|HD in 24/96 format (16/44.1 for NNXT) * Intensive sampling - a minimum of 5 RRs and 5 velos per kit part, up to 10 RRs and 16 velos! * Full kit patches AND individual components so you can construct your own Frankenstein kits. * Custom scripted patches for Kontakt and combis in NN-XT. * Intuitive GM mapping for compatibility with any project or MIDI. * Simplified mixing; designed with a great sound right out of the box. * Additional overhead/room patches for user-controllable ambiance. * A total of five snares, four kicks, nine toms, three hats (closed, loose, open, pedal), two rides, two crashes, two splashes, two rims, handclaps, tambourine, shaker, agogo, bongos, woodblocks, cowbell and triangle! A little about the kits... --- "Superfreak" (Milkboy Studios, Ardmore, PA) - As the name suggests, most of this 60s Ludwig 'Silver Comet' kit is rumored to have originally belonged to a certain funk music icon. The drums were recorded using high-end ribbon mics into an all-analog signal path, most notably a 70s Neve console with a few busted channels and lots of character. Outboard processors in the chain included gear by Empirical Labs, Tube-Tech, and Anthony DeMaria Labs. The saturation present on the higher velocities of some of the sounds, like the kick and snare, came solely from high gain running through all the tubes; no overdrive, distortion, or compressor saturation was applied! "Tape" (The Audio Lab, Milville, NJ) - This one was a real hybrid, the centerpiece being a 30s Ludwig Pioneer Black Beauty snare. The kicks and toms were Tamburo original series, along with an extra 22" Tama kick. Our hats, cymbals and rides were a mishmash of faded, junked up old metal… just what we wanted. Everything in the kit was recorded through an analog signal path then finally to an authentic, 24-track Otari tape machine before being dumped into Pro Tools. Mics used for this kit ranged in age and manufacturer. Various workhorse mics from EV, Sennheiser, Shure and Audix were used throughout, and to get the trashy, crunchy room sound, we used a trashy 70s General Electric cassette recorder mic along with an RCA SK-30. "Herodotus" (Real Music Media, Minneapolis, MN)) - John Gump (a.k.a. KVRAudio member Herodotus) recorded this drum set, which is the same make and model as Cream drummer Ginger Baker's drums! Mics used were a pair of Neumann KM-184s and Sennheiser 441s plus a Royer R-121. All of this went into some serious outboard gear like a classic UA 1176, Manley Labs VOXBOX, UA 2-610S and Manley Vari-Mu before finally going to a TASCAM reel-to-reel tape machine to seal the deal. --- You can purchase Groove Bias today for a special OCR price of $89 (KT/Hal/EXS) or $79 (NNXT) via PayPal: make sure to use these links as they're for OCR members only! Purchase -> Kontakt/EXS-24/Halion Version Purchase -> Reason Version 10% of each sale will be donated to OCR! You'll receive your download link within 24 hours (usually much faster.) While you're waiting, check out the PDF product manual and the video/audio demos below! Live Performance Video Demo (produced by Brandon Bush) Jake Kaufman - "Slap Them Skins" / Drums Only (classic 60s funk) Brandon Bush - "Spies Like Us" (Spy Hunter remix) / Drums Only (secret agent funk) Andrew Aversa - "Ragol Weather" / Drums Only (synth/jazz fusion) Andrew Aversa - "Acoustic DNB" Virt (Jake Kaufman) - "World's Most Wanted Wiener" (GB Edit) (MJ-style funk) tefnek - "Big n' Nasty" (big beat) ps. Thanks to pixietricks for the Groove Bias logo and SgtRama for the product UI! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjoe30 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I'd like ogg vorbis format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 Dunno if you're joking or not, but every format of the library will have "unlocked" WAVs that you can do whatever you want with. My question is mainly directed towards the sample *programming* format, ie. Battery, NN-XT, Ultrabeat, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmony Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I'm having tons of fun testing out Groove Bias in Kontakt, but I'm sure you know what format I'd love to see: SFZ! Give all the folks out there who want high quality drums samples but can't yet afford a high quality sampler a chance I even did a little research for ya. I ran a quick conversion of a Groove Bias kit from Kontakt to SFZ format using the demo of Extreme Sample Converter (with the files stored as .ogg for superjoe30 ) and in 60 seconds the default settings did a good job of preserving everything except release timings. I'm playing it in SFZ and the sample converter even got the round robins right. Hopefully there's some setting that would give a 100% faithful conversion, but if release times are the only problem, sfzEd is a graphical editor that should (never used it myself) make modifying the release envelopes easier than using a text editor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverCoat Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 i'm sold on just the name alone hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skummel Maske Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Our motto was "the more tubes, the better," and we armed ourselves to the teeth with beat-up mics, analog gear, vintage drums and tape machines. This sounds incredibly fun. I love the concept! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyril the Wolf Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Oh wow. If its possible, it'd be awesome if they could be in SampleTank format. I just use sampletank WAY to much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPanther Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Whoa this is sweet. Using this with the NN-XT sampler would be tight since all of my drums go through that. Can't wait till I start gettin some money again xD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avaris Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Sounding pretty tight dudes! Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuketheXjesse Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Man this sounds sick. I might have to pick this up, as well as other things from IS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnappleMan Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Dude, I've been playing with this for a while, it's killer! I'm thoroughly impressed by this library, mainly because it sounds good out of the box (or out of the .rar archive... so to speak...) and yet still has headroom for my own effects and processing (a big FUCK YOU to EZdrummer in that regard...) Great work so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 Thanks yo. We're building lots of presets now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Mokram Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 My question is mainly directed towards the sample *programming* format, ie. Battery, NN-XT, Ultrabeat, etc... 'Battery' format would be awesome, but Kontakt is already nice enough. This sounds powerful, yet a lot of fun to use, judging by the b-tester's previews. Hope we'll see the great results next month. Good preset-building to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Taucer Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I've heard Andy talking about this, but somehow missed this thread up to now. Sounds like exactly the drum kit I've been looking for for ages! I especially love that vintage snare sound. Any idea what sort of price range we'd be looking at? I'd love to get this if I can afford it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted April 27, 2009 Author Share Posted April 27, 2009 Probably gonna be about $99, at least for the preorder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophetik music Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 i'm interested. definitely looks like something i could use, particularly with what i've been working on lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eino Keskitalo Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Sounds great! Finally got around listening to the Impact: Steel demos too, I thought it was a great concept and the demos sound very good. I need enlightenment: what does "deep sampling" mean in this context? --Eino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 It just means we recorded a lot of hits. For example, every single part of the library has a bare minimum of five velocity layers and five round robins, while some parts, like the snares, have ten round robins and eleven or more velocity layers. That's a LOT of samples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 Bump w/ info about the kits & gear! "Superfreak" (Milkboy Studios, Ardmore, PA) - As the name suggests, most of this 60s Ludwig 'Silver Comet' kit is rumored to have originally belonged to a certain funk music icon. The drums were recorded using high-end ribbon mics into an all-analog signal path, most notably a 70s Neve console with a few busted channels and lots of character. Outboard processors in the chain included gear by Empirical Labs, Tube-Tech, and Anthony DeMaria Labs. The saturation present on the higher velocities of some of the sounds, like the kick and snare, came solely from high gain running through all the tubes; no overdrive, distortion, or compressor saturation was applied! "Tape" (The Audio Lab, Milville, NJ) - This one was a real hybrid, the centerpiece being a 30s Ludwig Pioneer Black Beauty snare. The kicks and toms were Tamburo original series, along with an extra 22" Tama kick. Our hats, cymbals and rides were a mishmash of faded, junked up old metal… just what we wanted. Everything in the kit was recorded through an analog signal path then finally to an authentic, 24-track Otari tape machine before being dumped into Pro Tools. Mics used for this kit ranged in age and manufacturer. Various workhorse mics from EV, Sennheiser, Shure and Audix were used throughout, and to get the trashy, crunchy room sound, we used a trashy 70s General Electric cassette recorder mic along with an RCA SK-30. "Herodotus" (Real Music Media, Minneapolis, MN)) - John Gump (a.k.a. KVRAudio member Herodotus) recorded this drum set, which is the same make and model as Cream drummer Ginger Baker's drums! Mics used were a pair of Neumann KM-184s and Sennheiser 441s plus a Royer R-121. All of this went into some serious outboard gear like a classic UA 1176, Manley Labs VOXBOX, UA 2-610S and Manley Vari-Mu before finally going to a TASCAM reel-to-reel tape machine to seal the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hy Bound Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Looks awesome, I may have to pick both this and impact steel up when i get kontakt. Also, sorry for the noob-ness, but what is a round robin? I've seen that word before, but I don't think I know the real meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 Round robins are basically multiple samples on the same key at the same velocity level. So, you can hit velocity 127 five times in a row and hear five different recordings. This makes samples, particularly drums, a lot more realistic because otherwise, even with a lot of velocity levels, something like a hat pattern or snare roll will sound like a 'machine gun' and not a realistic performance. We have 5-10 RRs per kit part which is definitely nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eino Keskitalo Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Thanks for the explanations, zircon Info/lore on the sets was cool to read, too. --Eino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted May 3, 2009 Author Share Posted May 3, 2009 Phew... just spent all day working on Reason patches (they're pretty much all done) and tweaking the final Kontakt patches. Here are some screenies; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyne Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 That's epic. Can't wait to hear you use them in a remix or original piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrich Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 oh my gawd those are by far some of THE sexiest acoustic samples i've ever heard you are saviors among the tubes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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