Necrotic Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 As I have said to friends before who liked the idea, if they just changed the amount you could junction from 100 to 50, it would make VIII's engine so much better. You wouldn't feel so forced to melee only in that game.As much as I hate the story, the battle engine, if worked on, would be welcomed back by me in another installment. The game expects you to know that you're supposed to use Card Mod and Item Refinement to make it easier to get 100 of a majority of the spells in the game, but that's for the players to discover for themselves. Which is definitely a flaw, people shouldn't be punished by drawing magic from enemies for an hour or two if they don't realize they can take 5 seconds and refine it instead. Overall though? When you learn FF8's systems inside and out, it's a really fucking fun game and one of my top FF games. Its biggest flaw is the story which gets kinda bad half way through then mind-numbingly stupid in the last 3/4. EDIT: Dang, hijacked by Malaki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaki-LEGEND.sys Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 I don't know how many spoilers or stuff about the game you guys don't want to know, but here's some battle footage with the different eidolons. http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/28152 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 The game expects you to know that you're supposed to use Card Mod and Item Refinement to make it easier to get 100 of a majority of the spells in the game, but that's for the players to discover for themselves. Which is definitely a flaw, people shouldn't be punished by drawing magic from enemies for an hour or two if they don't realize they can take 5 seconds and refine it instead. Fuck the drawing and refining part. I just hate that the moment I cast, my stats go down. That is just stupid. You either get to cast Ultima and cause some massive damage, or use it towards a stat. Obviously, you are going to with the latter, since it will boost the stat like crazy. If they lowered it to only 50 per stat, you could cast at least 50 of a spell without having to worry about the stat going down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necrotic Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Fuck the drawing and refining part. I just hate that the moment I cast, my stats go down. That is just stupid. You either get to cast Ultima and cause some massive damage, or use it towards a stat. Obviously, you are going to with the latter, since it will boost the stat like crazy.If they lowered it to only 50 per stat, you could cast at least 50 of a spell without having to worry about the stat going down. Yeah, that's something I would've been down with. I'd like to see a second take on FF8's battle system with a little more variety instead of "Aura on Squall, Renzoukuken like crazy, Melee/Heal with other characters." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollgagh Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 the first time I played FFVIII, I hated the system and got stuck at the end because Ultimecia was too powerful for my underdeveloped junctions the second time I played it, I knew what I was doing and wiped the floor with everything (including Omega Weapon) edit: okay what the hellass, I'm looking at FFX right now and there ain't no ATB option anywhere prophet, you have got to be thinking of another final fantasy. That "magic window" behavior that you're thinking of is part of the ATB system, but FFX has a different battle time system in where the characters basically "build up" an amount of points in a bar to get a turn. The number of points required to get your next turn depends on the speed stat, what attack you used last, whether or not you have haste or slow cast on you, and other factors. In fact it's called the CTB (Conditional Turn-Based Battle) instead of the ATB (Active Time Battle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophetik music Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 maybe that's what i'm thinking of, then. i've played several ff-style rpgs since then, i must be getting mixed up. my bad. also: Fuck the drawing and refining part. I just hate that the moment I cast, my stats go down. That is just stupid. You either get to cast Ultima and cause some massive damage, or use it towards a stat. Obviously, you are going to with the latter, since it will boost the stat like crazy. uh, the fact that there's a tradeoff is kind of the point, dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 I think what Arek is complaining about is the fact that using magic tied to stats is way better than using the magic itself. The strategy is degenerate/non-existent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Derrit Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 soooooo final fantasy XIII eh? 29 hours away. kind of excited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophetik music Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 i've been listening to the soundtrack all day =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Strader Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I remember my playthrough of FFX, and Tidus would have like 3x more attacks than everybody else because he was so fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaki-LEGEND.sys Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I have no idea how I'm going to get through 4 hours of my Advanced Statistics class and lab tomorrow night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkjing Donuts Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I have no idea how I'm going to get through 4 hours of my Advanced Statistics class and lab tomorrow night... I read "Advance: Tactics" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollgagh Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I remember my playthrough of FFX, and Tidus would have like 3x more attacks than everybody else because he was so fast. my second time through, I gamesharked tidus's speed to 255 he always got like 35 turns before anyone else got any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I think what Arek is complaining about is the fact that using magic tied to stats is way better than using the magic itself. The strategy is degenerate/non-existent. Bingo ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaki-LEGEND.sys Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Well gentlemen, it's time to start the countdown. Little more than 16 hours before we get to see something we've been waiting for for about 4 and a half years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 my xbox comes back from repair tomorrow i am rather happy about this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophetik music Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 my xbox comes back from repair tomorrowi am rather happy about this that's perfect timing, unless you were planning on getting it on ps3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Derrit Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 eleven hours twenty minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin Crust Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 that's perfect timing, unless you were planning on getting the superior version.Fixed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 its the same game who cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaki-LEGEND.sys Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Thin Crust does, which means we should all care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Derrit Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Thin Crust does, which means LOL fixed for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophetik music Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 fixed for you nice of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteo Xavier Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I'm thinking about going down the hill to the Gamestop to watch the Midnight thing in progress. I like being the one guy who's there to look at A/V cables while everyone else is buying FFXIII. The looks on the employees faces make it worth the trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin Crust Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I'm thinking about going down the hill to the Gamestop to watch the Midnight thing in progress. I like being the one guy who's there to look at A/V cables while everyone else is buying FFXIII. The looks on the employees faces make it worth the trip. What? No HDMI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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