a_d Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Is Aveh a dragon in the game? I thought Aveh was just a nation. I ask this because the lyrics of Kate's song talk about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazarCotoron Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Nuh uh, however, it fits with the Xenogears mythos regardless. If you're familiar with ancient cultures, the concept of 'dragons' varies a lot, from things like Tiamat and Bahamat, the Asian Lung, our own western variant which we are more familiar, and even things such as South America's feathered serpents. The consistency is immense creatures with at least some reptillian traits of considerable power and cunning. The world set of Xenogears showcases that gears were developed further since the crash to contend with immense monsters. That all said, I feel the mixes Kate has posted up here on OCR, this one especially, showcase Kate's genre mastery. I'd love to see her branch out a little bit, but I definitely will keep coming back for what it is that she "does." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_d Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 "So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." Revelation 12:9 "For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light." 2 Corinthians 11:14 "Old dragon, old dragon Aveh No brighter star leads us Give us light" -Hymn of Aveh "How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer [satan], son of the morning! For you have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God' " Isaiah 14:12,13 Interesting... (I do think the song sounds beautiful) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halc Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 loved it! incredible vocal performance (as expected, of course). i just wish I could play so many cool instruments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theophany Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 katethegreat lives up to her name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocifero Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Another great one by Kate. What a wonderful voice she has. She's cute too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delbuster Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 the only reason i knew the source tune was because of the Of Sea and Fire mix by Ziwtra, when I heard it here I was like ohmygoodness I know that lol awesome stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karth Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Kate, I have not yet played Xenogears (though I want to someday), and I had no familiarity with this track until looking it up after hearing your mix. And in spite of not knowing the source tune, after listening to this twice it's easily become one of my favorite OCRemixes of all time. I love this every bit as much as Star Salzman's "Pillar of Salt" - and as remixes go, that one ranks very high on my scale! This is at once a relaxing, breathtaking, and mystifying arrangement. And I'm sincerely impressed at your great talent, to have played all of those instruments so expertly. From here on out, I'll be patiently waiting for your next mix to arrive here - and of course I'll be browsing YouTube for the ones that aren't here yet. Best of luck in your future endeavors! -Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catharsis Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 She just now submitted this? Oh man, this has been one my favorites for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Penwald Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Dunno why anyone would be bothered by the made-up language; it's not any different from listening to a song in an existing langauge you don't understand. Anyway, about the remix in hand...it's bloody amazing. Voice work and instrument playing are very good (especially the violin), as is the arrangement. It really makes me want to listen to the OST again (I paid outta my ass when I bought it a decade ago, but I never regretted it). Waiting for her next submission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjwes Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Absolutely a great vocal performance. I love the slightly Asian feel to the music I picked up. I am not familiar with the Aveh language, but it sounds like a mix of Japanese and Latin... very cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asterai Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I recently discovered OCRemix, and this was the first mix I heard that compelled me to immediately go look up all the author's other works. Other mixes have since surpassed this in my mind, but damn did it make an impression. Listen to it, love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asterai Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I recently discovered OCRemix, and this was the first mix I heard that compelled me to immediately go look up all the author's other works. Other mixes have since surpassed this in my mind, but damn did it make an impression. Listen to it, love it. "So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." Revelation 12:9"For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light." 2 Corinthians 11:14 "Old dragon, old dragon Aveh No brighter star leads us Give us light" -Hymn of Aveh "How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer [satan], son of the morning! For you have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God' " Isaiah 14:12,13 Interesting... (I do think the song sounds beautiful) Methinks you're interpreting this through a lens it was not meant to be viewed with. As in, completely different (not to mention, entirely invented) mythology is involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crulex Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 My freaking mouth fell open listening to this. Not joking at all. You have an incredible voice and it reminded me of Celtic Women or something like that. Making an entire ReMix like this must have taken a boat load of work, and this is extremely impressive. Beautiful ReMix, and of course I absolutely love the Celtic sound to this. That violin was excellent and....damn. That's really all I can say about this, damn this ReMix is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPRTNovice Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I was in the gym a few days ago letting my OCR playlist roll, which has the torrents in them at random. For the first time, I heard Hymn of Aveh, and I literally stopped in the middle of the gym and just stood there, listening. Fantastic, fantastic work. I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Kate, there is a quality to your voice that I can't describe. Just...wow, so gorgeous. The violin work is excellent as well. Definitely one of my favorite remixes from you. Can't wait to wait to hear more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esperado Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 whatever did happen to Kate? seems like its been a while. definitely improves on the original , which is a great quality in a ReMix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Shinigami Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 STORY TIME! It's a slightly unusual story, but as we're all creative types here I figure you all will understand. So we all know that when katethegreat19 submitted this amazing song, it came with a "translation" crafted by KaelWolfCry that makes it more or less Aveh's national anthem. At the time I found this (which I believe was in late 2011 or early 2012) I was—technically still am, but it's on hold for the time being—rewriting an old, old Xenogears fic (from the early 2000s, and you can tell), and it heavily features Bart and the Aveh pirates. As you might expect, I listened to this song a lot (also "The Last Fatima" and a number of other related and nonrelated arrangements from Humans + Gears, alongside the OST) for inspiration and mood-setting and everything else. The truth is that I am a dragon fanatic and generally dislike the dragons-are-always-your-enemy shtick. I get that this perception goes back at least to the Bible and for that reason isn't without merit and so on and so on, but that all dragons are evil all the time (apparently) seems to be a primarily Western concept I happen to disagree with. That being the case, with dragons being canonical beasts for the Xenogears world it was safe for me to introduce a dragon as a minor supporting character who had been around since before the founding of Aveh. Obviously—for those of you familiar with the game—being a minimum of five hundred years old, her role in the country's history is involved, and she's pretty much worshiped by everyone in Bledavik as a symbol of Aveh and the royal family. Having spent way too much time studying both katethegreat19’s original lyrics as well as KaelWolfCry’s translation, I found myself agreeing that the original lyrics reference a dragon, either metaphorically or physically. And that was when it occurred to me—considering how highly this dragon character of mine is viewed by the people of Bledavik, it's likely Aveh's national anthem would include her if it wasn't outright about her. That being the case, why not write my own "translation" that better fits my fic? So I did. And while I'm not a poet at all, I'm quite pleased with the results. Thus I'm posting to express my gratitude to katethegreat19 for her inspiring arrangement, as well as to express my gratitude to KaelWolfCry for inspiring me to put more thought into one of my fics than I normally do. As a writer I am always aiming to improve myself, so going so deep into the Xenogears world as to craft a national anthem for Aveh can only mean good things for my other fics and, more, for my original works. So thank you very much, etc. And if you all still think that's weird, oh well—too late now. But this is for a fic that's 263 pages and counting, written almost exclusively in size 10 Times New Roman. And that's not including the four related fics in the series. So this isn't a simple one-shot or novella—it's a long-term project with a lot of effort in it and a lot of effort left to be put in it. I just figured someone would be interested in knowing that yes, this is a fantastic song—but it's done more than please appreciative ears. ~LS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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