Ringworm128 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Anyone else here listen to Vocaloid? I really like the Vocaloid fanbase as they have made so much music, artwork and other things. Here are some good songs IMO. Japanese. Go Google It. Double Lariat. Toeto. Butterfly on Your Right Shoulder Odds and Ends. Melt. English. I Still Want U. Pitch Black Refrain. Night of The Magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otakatt Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I like Miku's Stratosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Strader Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I am a Hatsune Miku fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalcyonSpirit Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Am I a Vocaloid fan? Hm... that's a tough one. Maybe I should consult my many GBs of Vocaloid music for an answer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollgagh Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 definitely not a vocaloid fan here nope :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dissidia Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Double Lariat is my favorite vocaloid song by far. I also like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRQTZC3uNW4 the counter melody in the chorus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhsu Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I know it's generalizing but the Vocaloid fandom just strikes me as a little too creepy for me to actually enjoy the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROTO·DOME Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I've tried so hard to get the VST Luka working, really I have. The actual native vocaloid editor is just terrible, so I gave up trying. Time to find people who can sing instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerrax Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I know it's generalizing but the Vocaloid fandom just strikes me as a little too creepy for me to actually enjoy the music. The voices are just a little too uncanny valley for me. Freaky... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollgagh Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 As a vocalist myself, I'd have to say that the biggest reason she sounds fake is because most producers don't emulate many nuances that exist in human singing. There are a handful that do, and I have to say that the effect is pretty damned convincing. As an example, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringworm128 Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 I know it's generalizing but the Vocaloid fandom just strikes me as a little too creepy for me to actually enjoy the music. I know what you mean, the weeaboo side of the fandom does show but there is a better side to the fandom that nobody ever sees. I go on a Vocaloid forum that loves to give crap to the weeaboo side of the fandom. But I do find it disheartening that pretty much anyone who looks up Vocaloid will be greeted with comments saying things like "it's so kawaii" or "Len is sexy". And that could give a lot of people the wrong idea about Vocaloid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chibijuhachigou Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 As a vocalist myself, I'd have to say that the biggest reason she sounds fake is because most producers don't emulate many nuances that exist in human singing. There are a handful that do, and I have to say that the effect is pretty damned convincing.As an example, Whoa, she inhales at the end of her lines! That's the problem I have a lot when trying to sing Vocaloid songs. Rather than have the Vocalids sing 'naturally', people design their songs to only work in that "infinite breath" sort of style. Which is fine sometimes, but... For those who don't know what I'm talking about, here are a couple examples, both by wowaka: and ....Well, what do you know. According to the comments on the first link I posted, wowaka designed it to be unsingable. Hah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollgagh Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 See, I'm on the opposite end of that. I've acknowledged that Vocaloid is a synthesizer; it is only proper that it be used as such, be that to achieve either realistic or ridiculous effect. Incidentally, I love both of those songs (I just don't try to sing along with them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daydreamermabel Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Hatsune Miku and Meiko get my votes for the better vocal qualities or at least have received more justice in the songs I find on Youtube. I even attempted to do a cover of 'Ievan Polkka', taking the Miku vocals on it and attempted to sing it. It was a nightmare and all the auto-tuning/bit-crushing barely saved me. On that note, Vocaloid has obviously been geared for Japanese diction, and english diction/phonetics is hard as balls to conceive. However, a vocal synthesizer is an amazing concept and definitely is a step in removing the block that is 'I don't have a singer' for most songwriters/composers/musicians/everyday-people-who-wanna-write-music. -ddM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhsu Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Now let me completely contradict myself by listing several Vocaloid tracks I like: http://virt.bandcamp.com/track/mmw-title-extended http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwUtb64qMxM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringworm128 Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 That's not actually Vocaloid. It's a similar program called UTAU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Felis Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I really enjoy vocaloid, as much as it feels weird to admit that. It's one of those fandoms like Homestuck or MLP: some of the fans can make you not want anything to do with it, but the more you explore what there is to offer the more you enjoy it. It's great creative music for when I'm writing, because normally I can't listen to vocals or talking while typing. It doesn't matter so much when I can't understand the language. I like Miku, Luka, Gakupo and Gumi...but there isn't as much for the latter. People are Miku-crazy. They're also Len/Rin-crazy, which means that they're used for a lot of songs that just do not fit the voices (it's hard to find a good fit for Len). Kaito is kind of a bad voice bank, but they've used his voice in a lot of good songs. My favorite tunes: Lilith Electro Last Night, Good Night Magnet Canary Black Rock Shooter Cantarella Cendrillon Imitation Black Chocolate Train Looking For Blue Color Cradle of Destiny Meconopsis Betonicifolia Bonus track: apparently there's even a Corridors of Time vocaloid remix, done by Kamui Gakupo. Because that tune hasn't been around the block a few times before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhsu Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 That's not actually Vocaloid. It's a similar program called UTAU. Ah! You learn something new every day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexie Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 for Unofficial Sentai Akibaranger uses Miku in it. Quite fitting and amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crulex Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I got into vocaloid a few years ago after someone showed me that Miku and co. "live" light/projection/hologram thing, but I've stopped listening to them as much as I used to. I've still got my favorites like Cremation Melody, Levan Polkka and Electic Angel though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damashii!! Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 hmm, guess I'm in the minority for this. i actually love vocaloid, i just don't like some of the fandom's response to it. a classmate introduced it to me and I was shaking my head in amazement ever since. I don't think it's even close to replacing live singers, but I'm attracted to the artificial sound for some reason. definitely on my wishlist for the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollgagh Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 That's why I've said 'take it as it is', not necessarily as a replacement for human singing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringworm128 Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 Here's a few more. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-wqkNeMbyo Space Shortcut Key (Part 3) I'm Too Sexy (cover) Dancing Samurai Dancing Samurai (remix/cover) AIMS Don't Mylist Me! Nostalgic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triad Orion Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I like Miku, Luka, Gakupo and Gumi...but there isn't as much for the latter. People are Miku-crazy. They're also Len/Rin-crazy, which means that they're used for a lot of songs that just do not fit the voices (it's hard to find a good fit for Len). Kaito is kind of a bad voice bank, but they've used his voice in a lot of good songs. Yeah, people are definitely nuts for Miku and Len/Rin. I'm not the biggest vocaloid listener myself, but prior to Miku's update and subsequent all-around improvement in her voice bank, I always thought Luka sounded better for a lot of things. Not all, of course. Luka's still my favorite overall, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global-Trance Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 kz / Livetune and/or HachiojiP / 8#Prince only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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