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*NO* NiGHTS into dreams... 'Celestial Entrance'
Liontamer replied to Palpable's topic in Judges Decisions
Well, the chords use the rhythms of the original's chords, just not the notes. And when you're dealing with such a simplified part, you really have to keep the notes sounding similar so the connection is overt. In this case, I see what you did there, but the two note backing pattern sounds too different compared to the original. The rising and falling synth notes starting at :25 were too liberal to be connected to the source at all. The 4-note melody first used at 1:03 was inspired by the first 4 notes from the classic source melody, but the kicker again is that only the rhythm's the same while the notes are completely different. The original guitar work at 1:42 was pretty solid, though mixed somewhat roughly. It should be cleaned up a bit, but production-wise it wasn't a dealbreaker. If the goal was to retain the overall mood while evading copyright, then mission accomplished. So you don't venture too far away from the theme, work with it 1-for-1, then see what melodic or rhythmic variations you can build from there; just do what you can so that you don't change the melodies/notes too drastically. ROFL, finally THERE'S the recognizable theme at 3:24. The concept here is cool, Brandon. Just use the theme in a more recognizable way, and this concept and sonic pallette is already strong enough to get a pass. Definitely want to see this resubbed. NO (resubmit) -
Term ideas for "VGM with lyrics over it" (for brentalfloss)
Liontamer replied to Liontamer's topic in General Discussion
Funny lyrics over instrumental VGM arrangements is my inference to the overall premise. It's brentalfloss, of course. -
I think the addition of a second part to "The Prelude" only started at FF4, but I'd need to look into that more. Well, the melody of the opening notes is certainly interpreted into this crystalline flourish of piano. Structurally, it could be more interpretive, but this seems like a reasonable expansive take, with the instrumental variation (1:06, then 2:13), choir, heartbeat drums, and expanded piano writing. I thought the overall feel of the piece was modified enough to be something we could work with. I'm open to other opinions. Given the submitting artist's history of song creation, we might need to research existing MIDIs. Tentatively... YES
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*NO* Sonic the Hedgehog 2 'Substance Factory Renovation'
Liontamer replied to Palpable's topic in Judges Decisions
Interesting buildup, but the first synth and the drums brought in at :36 were underwhelming. Texturally, there wasn't much going on to start. I liked the fidelity changeup at 1:25-1:29 in principle, though it was just strange the way it was used. The arrangement had aspects here and there that were more interpretive, particularly 1:57-on. That 5-note synth countermelody first used at 2:03 was run into the ground by 3:00, so I'm glad it ended soon afterward. You have to get the textures fleshed out some more, and make the structure more developed and cohesive. Right now, there's little flow to this piece. NO -
The drums were pretty empty. The guitar sounded too upfront compared to everything else, while the background elements just quietly mudded together in the background and didn't have enough presence. The guitar lead itself was thin and grating; there needed to be more body on it, and the playing needed to be much smoother. Arrangement-wise, there was little interpretative to be found beyond adapting the songs for the genre. The freestyling on top of the chord progression at 3:02 was finally something, but not enough given there was only 41 seconds left. Not bad for a first stab, but not much to this beyond the cover, and it's not mixed well. NO
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http://ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=29498
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OCR Mascots: Class of Summer 2010 - Voting Closed
Liontamer replied to djpretzel's topic in General Discussion
1. Companion Cube 2. Hakan 3. Bill Rizer (Contra) -
OCR02048 - Animal Crossing "purdieoldays"
Liontamer replied to djpretzel's topic in ReMix Reviews & Comments
Welllllll, well! SAMBA TIME, baby! -
A tutorial for...?
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OCR02046 - GoldenEye 007 "Creeper at the Train Depot"
Liontamer replied to djpretzel's topic in ReMix Reviews & Comments
A winner is you! http://twitter.com/Norgans/status/15516990311 -
OCR02043 - Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time "G.E.R.U.D.O."
Liontamer replied to djpretzel's topic in ReMix Reviews & Comments
Yeah, that's a bad attitude. This version's already different than any other before it. OPEN MINDS plz, not closed. -
OCR02044 - Final Fantasy X "That's Besaid the Point"
Liontamer replied to djpretzel's topic in ReMix Reviews & Comments
Chillaxation. -
Don't blow it, Dave! If you need help, read Marriage for Dummies!
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There's the expected snag of whether the tagging would be allowed to stay the same. Provided that we did not have to compromise our file tagging (or it was in a way that djp is OK with, per Last.fm), I'm in favor of this. The only other questions I have are whether iTunes would have a page that would have a description of the "podcast", and whether anyone else has successfully done a podcast that was just used to serve free music. If we expanded the reach/audience of the ReMixes, and the artist info and URLs were all up in 'em, I don't see how that hurts the site. By that extension, obviously there are people that subscribe to the OCR YouTube that don't/won't come to the site; they just favorite the videos they like. But at the same time, expanding our presence there has also led to a traffic increase by new visitors from YouTube. This was in spite of djp's reservation that it could pull visitors away from the main site. Well we've done it for a year now, and we get more visitors as a result, not less. As far as outside distribution, we could argue it, but there's really no argument to me. There are a lot of instances where people encounter OC ReMixes without being on the site. More awareness is good and would trickle down to the site. The entire point of Stevo's idea is to go where the people are. We could have argued 6-8 years ago that we shouldn't have had our music on Audiogalaxy, Kazaa and LimeWire, because people could get the ReMixes without coming to the site. That reasoning would be just as short-sighted as dismissing iTunes. If we didn't have to compromise the presentation of the tracks, and Stevo's speculative idea was actually doable, that would obviously be great. I just don't believe it would be that simple. It's worth looking into though.
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Some in the list are waiting to be posted, FYI. Whatever few I'm missing, it's because I don't have lyrics for them Although if injury wanted to finally provide lyrics to 8-bit Eighties, that would be great. I've also seen sketchy transcriptions of Pac-Man Sinergia; if anyone could definitively get that down, I'd have those too. This list is brought to you by Larry retagging every OC ReMix, including lyrics for the ones that have lyrics. Nag your local pretzel today to get these shiny new, organized MP3s! OMG LIST OF MIXES WITH LYRICS Avoid these mixes if you are closed-minded (read: dumb) Artura Dublin Delight Astérix Niggaz 4 Life Banjo-Kazooie In the Darkness Lies Bust a Groove Bust This Groove '81 Castlevania II Simon's Symphony Castlevania III Demon Seed (Corrupted Infatuation) Castlevania Transylvanian Temptation Cauldron II It's Binary, Baby! Album Mix Chrono Cross Dreaming Still Chrono Trigger Forever Until Tomorrow Chrono Trigger Team Gato Chrono Trigger The Incredible Singing Robot Chrono Trigger The Place We Knew Chrono Trigger Town Life Civilization IV Destined for Greatness Commander Keen: Secret of the Oracle man sieht sich galaxie Conker's Bad Fur Day Rhapsody in Poo Dance Dance Revolution Solo 2000 Dazed & Destroyed DarXide Starman (don't lose yourself) Dizzy the Adventurer Mix Dizz Donkey Kong Country 2 A New Place Donkey Kong Country 2 Trapped in the Minds Donkey Kong Country 2 Us Monkeys Together Donkey Kong Country Funky Monkey Love (Valentine Edit) Donkey Kong Country Permutation Doom Asphyxiated Soul EarthBound Da Black Market EarthBound Home Again EarthBound Venus-Signed Banana Peel Earthworm Jim 2 Invertebrate Retreat F-Zero The Freedom of Zero Final Fantasy IV Éminence Grise Final Fantasy IV Fighting for Tomorrow Final Fantasy IV Rhymes with Elixir Final Fantasy IV Somewhere to Hide Final Fantasy IV Tororian Love Song Final Fantasy IX The Rose General Final Fantasy V ROBOVoice Final Fantasy VI Cantata for Dancing: I. Mors ego sum mortis Final Fantasy VI Cantata for Dancing: II. Fuga Kefka Final Fantasy VI Keep Out the Veldt Final Fantasy VII Adrenalyne Kyck Final Fantasy VII Deliverance of the Heart Final Fantasy VII The Crossroads Final Fantasy VIII Devotion & Deception Final Fantasy VIII Shine Tonight Final Fantasy X Journey's End Final Fantasy X Summoner's Love Legend of Zelda Hyrule's Angel (The Sleeping Beauty) Legend of Zelda Rabbit Joint Cover Legend of Zelda The Music of My Groin Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask Link to the Mask Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Falling Back Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Prayer Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess No Hope Lost Patrol In the Air Mix Mario Kart DS Charade Mega Man 2 ROBOVoice Mega Man 2 The Annihilation of Monsteropolis Mega Man 3 Blue Reflection Mega Man 3 Cataclysmic Clash Mega Man 4 Get a Weapon Weapon Mega Man X Dreams Come True Ninja Gaiden II In the Atrium Pac-Man Sinergia Paperboy Smooth Delivery Persona Satomi Tadashi Northside Rx Portal Live from [sUBJECT HOMETOWN HERE] Punch-Out!! Little Mac's Confession Secret of Mana Dragon Song Seiken Densetsu 3 The Fearless Angel Shenmue Come to Bob's Pizza Shenmue Dreaming While I Wake Sonic & Knuckles Lover Reef Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Oil Ocean (WT-40 Mix) Sonic the Hedgehog 3 Knuckleduster Sonic the Hedgehog 3 Memories Frozen in Time Sonic the Hedgehog Absolution Comes in Dreams Space Harrier I Got the Spacebeam Star Ocean Summertime Stormlord Seneca's Marble Pack Edit Street Fighter II The Ken Song Streets of Rage Elevation [groovepump mix] Super Mario Bros. 8-bit Eighties Super Mario Bros. The 2-2 Blues Super Metroid Kindred Super Metroid The Mother Is in Control Tales of Phantasia as time goes on (you are love to me) Valkyrie Profile The Shining Blue Armor Descends Wild Arms A Ring and a Promise Wild Arms Dové L'Amore Wizards & Warriors Kono Sekai De Wizards & Warriors Theme Wizards & Warriors Wizards in My Armor (Warrior in My Long-Johns) Xenogears Hymn of Aveh Xenogears My Child Xenogears Pillar of Salt
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OverClocked ReMix Design ?'s and Issues
Liontamer replied to Liontamer's topic in Site Issues & Feedback
Duly noted, although Dave knows about that issue. But we'll see what he says on whether it's a relatively straight forward fix. -
OverClocked ReMix Design ?'s and Issues
Liontamer replied to Liontamer's topic in Site Issues & Feedback
For no reason, I refuse to make these fixes. (i.e. done, the fixes will be live later.) Re: GGX, I see what you're saying and agree, but Dave has a point that conventionally, practically no one at all uses "By Your Side" as a subtitle, unlike say Street Fighter II: The World Warrior. But I have added the data of the full GGX name as an alternate name. -
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OCR02038 - Final Fantasy IV "The Might of Baron"
Liontamer replied to djpretzel's topic in ReMix Reviews & Comments
Yeah, it's got an epic feel. This definitely put Jay on my radar as soon as I heard it. -
The DoD month that Dr. M's came from was pretty stacked and this mix was just an alternate! The 1st place, 2nd place, and one of the ties for 3rd are all on OCR, as well as OA's DKC2 project mix, which placed 10th. To top it off, Doc won that month with the Scaredsim collab. Great stuff from DoD per the usual; don't sleep on it. Keep 'em coming, Hugo!
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I dunno why everyone was being so nice to that brass sample, pointing out the flaw, but saying it wasn't a big deal. It sounded downright brutal compared to everything else, and was extremely fake-sounding, exposed, shrill and repetitive. It just blared out on top of the track and didn't even sound like it was in the same soundscape as the rest of the instrumentation. It dragged this down to NO. Get rid of it, it just cheapens the track. If you can program strings well, go for some emotive, resonant single and layered strings with instead. It's a suggestion. I can see where the others were coming from regarding the track dragging; it could stand to be shortened. But as long as the lead was fixed/replaced with something that fit the track, I'd pass this in a heartbeat. I can understand this being more a piece that served as something to kick back to that subtly evolves for a long time. However, it DID drag some because the melody was basically cut-and-pasted ad nauseum with that awful brass work, same volume every time. The lead got boring and repetitive even though there was so much great stuff and ear candy happening behind it. The drum programming and subtle mutations going on were great to listen to. I also loved the original countermelody on piano (first used at :47), which fit seamlessly with the source arrangement, even if it was drowned down too much during some sections. You may want to consider making it more audible throughout the track. Arrangement-wise, this was some good usage of the source with a constant presence. Just swap the brass lead for something good, and work with any other crits from the Js that you think you can use, and send this on back. Don't think you need to blow up what's here, Brad; the overall arrangement is solid. This just needs tweaks to push it over the bar, and we definitely want to post this. NO (refine/resubmit)
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OCR02048 - *YES* Animal Crossing 'purdieoldays'
Liontamer replied to Palpable's topic in Judges Decisions
Decision was long closed, so I'm coming in way after the fact, but I finally got around to listening to this myself. Nice sampling of the Bernard Purdie drum lesson, BTW, that was strong. I'v enjoyed his stuff ever since I heard Gwilym sample an interview of his for some original stuff he wrote back in the VGMix2 days. Again, I had 0 problem with po!'s arrangement approach, i.e. the A-B-A-style source usage in just the beginning and ending sections. As far as the "formula" of using the source tune enough, I'm just looking for over 50% usage so the source usage is dominant. The methods you use to get there generally don't matter to me as long as you get there. po! had it here, and everything flowed nicely. YES -
OCR02052 - *YES* Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 'True Evening'
Liontamer replied to OceansAndrew's topic in Judges Decisions
As soon as I heard this, I knew OA's previous ReMix was the reason this happened. Yeah, I can see what's up with the balance issues even with this revised version. The supporting instruments sound too far off in the soundscape. Still not a fan of that snare either. I wish he'd find a different one; he basically uses the same one no matter what the situation. On drums, you're a one-trick pony. This production definitely wasn't a dealbreaker though, by any stretch, and the arrangement completely makes up for any shortcomings there. The arrangement was strong, mostly keeping the melody intact, but spicing it up with variations on top of variations. There shouldn't be a debate here. Let's go! YES