Gario

Well then, let's remind you what your argument was. HOLY CRAP lowering the price was your solution to piracy. What are you even talking about, when you say people are ignoring your argument? That was your original argument. Word for word. There's no way around it - you are arguing that lowering prices will reduce piracy to a non-factor, and everyone else says no it won't (not to mention that they're saying that lowering prices hurt business more than piracy does, but that's another issue entirely). Don't expect a consistent answer when you can't come up with a consistent question. By the way, in logic what you're doing is called 'moving the goalpost'. That reference to the first post is proof of that.

Hell... yes. I am not a Sonic fan, but the soundtrack is incredible (especially the 3d series... well, save Knuckles music). The vocals are a little raspy, but otherwise they work well. Sexy. Finish it up. I want to hear it finished.

So explain that one to me. If my argument is invalid, then so is yours, based on the same logic. It'd be hard pressed to prove that high prices do affect piracy rates, just as it's hard to prove that they don't. Hey look, we have a case of negative proof from you, thus technically making your original argument invalid. However, I'll pretend that your argument has some weight and counter it anyway (technically, your argument is dead in the water, but I want to have some fun with it). My position shows that there are alternative explanations that are proven to exist (lookie here) that undermine your original assumption (e.g. people claim high prices cause piracy). My position exists not to show that I'm right, but to show that your creating a slippery slope that doesn't look at the alternatives. Enough meta-logic, though - what makes you say that my theory isn't possible, and your theory is the ONLY possible explanation for the phenomena? You'll need to provide reasoning that your explanation is the only correct one if you want your argument that 'Lower prices = less piracy' is true. Otherwise, you're setting yourself up for cum hoc ergo propter hoc. As a philosophy major I'm sure you know what that means, eh? That line of argument is only valid for necessities, not for vanities. Um, no, that's not what you're doing when you pirate copies. If you didn't have the product and yet showed interest in it then the company has incentive to fix the problem. If you don't buy the product and yet have it somehow then what's the point in fixing the problem? The product is out, so why would the company cater to pirate's demands (which is the WHOLE POINT of the consumer's power to not buy)? Great, now we're undermining the entire premise of capitalism, and not in a way that helps the consumer, either (not in the long run, at least). He stopped responding to you when you decided to throw his arguments away without cause. He was banned for openly admitting that he was a troll. So I'm guessing this site has a sort of DADT policy against trolls.

I don't see that happening. XSTmusic's posts were pretty magical, and difficult to top.

OH OH, you're back? Awesome. I thought you left, for a second there. Here's a thought on that - maybe the people who claim this are liars? Perhaps, I dunno, people want to steal something then back their act up retrospectively so they don't suffer cognitive dissonance?

Yeah, I gotta admit, that's pretty awesome.

Woah, holy shit. THAT is an epic signature. Also, that is a sexy, sexy waveform. Since I'm here I guess I should comment on the remix, lol. Tight production. The beats are really smooth, and the effects are... well, effective. Some of the phased themes are grating to my ears, but this isn't exactly a genre that I listen to often so it's probably genre bias. I personally think the original chiptune is used straight a bit too much in the beginning, though. Perhaps it could've been broken up like later in the piece, or performed on a different synth/instrument (to save the cool broken chiptune for later - it was cool, by the way). Overall, I personally don't hear enough low frequency. The only thing that seems to take that space is the bass drum, that I hear. Moar bass would fill up the soundscape a little easier, but if you implement it be careful not to ruin that sexy waveform. Pretty sweet track, though. Hope the little I said helps.

Well dammit, that would've been real awesome yesterday when I read through the whole thread to see what was going on. Would've saved me about half an hour, that's for sure.

http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR02121/ This has nothing to do with videogames. At least the lyrics don't.

Let's see... no, no that's not the definition. This is the definition. Nowhere does it say they believe in something in spite of something else, by definition. Thus, another example of you providing incorrect information. lulz. No, you posted a legitimate argument (albeit an incorrect one) and followed up with personal attacks against OCR members when corrected. Generally, personal attacks against members is equal to 'I hate OCRemixers'.

A strong counterpoint to your claim that profit = extortion, for example? I have a one hundred dollar bill in my hand, and I offer to sell it to you for one hundred dollars. Will you buy it or not? A car company can only break even on a vehicle because a customer demands that they don't charge any more than that. Would they make the car? A company has a game they could produce that will only sell as much as it cost them to make the game because people demand that their prices go down to that much. Would they make the game? Save for the first question (I don't know what choice you'd make there - it's arbitrary) the answer will always be 'no'. There are always better things that people can do with their time than absolutely nothing. Another counterargument (if that one is too hypothetical for you): Extortion, by definition, cannot be applied to profit because it is the abuse of one's position of power over another that the money is gained from. This is never possible with vanity products, since it's always your choice whether or not to buy them. You're turn - I haven't had any sort of argument in weeks, and it's beginning to bug me.

A search of the topic brought this to my attention. Perhaps that will help...?

Not one to 'live and let live', eh? Good episode, Sephfire. I didn't think it would be too tough to talk about, but then I saw what happened in this thread . Madness.

http://mutherpluckin-b.com/music.html This wasn't posted here yet. Can't believe I forgot about this, especially since it's often running in my car.

Aw, poor Mitsuda won't hear our birthday wishes... At least Suzu and Dyne will be able to hear us say Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Suzu and Dyne.

You kidding? If/when it comes out it'll still be known as the game that took 14 years to develop. Good game or not, that's still going to be a stigma that it'll bear until the end of time. And that's assuming it even comes out.

Two days left and it's a no-show compo. Not exactly a great way to start the year. Unless, of course, there's someone in the shadows making a badass remix, in which case I can't wait.

I agree with Lizz - Summer would be much more doable, for sure.

Aw, but I liked the triple-digit weather... Nonetheless, I'd be interested. Can't say if I can go, though, 'cause I may have other plans at that time. Too soon to say, right now.

He doesn't like the idea of updating the thing every time there's a change (since it's a work in progress, I'm guessing it changes every day or so). Too much of a hassle.

Ah, alright. Gollgagh already linked to a patch, so I'll post that link on the OP leave it at that.

Ah, can't get enough Mega Man remixes. Just too much goodness, there. I like your approach on this one - liberal as hell for a lot of it, but more than enough reference to the source to connect the track to the original. I personally think it could be a little bit longer before the breakdown. I suspect you could get about another 30 seconds or so if you play around with the source a bit more before the breakdown, and the breakdown would also sound more natural if you did this. I think the end cuts off rather abruptly, as well, so putting in a little effort into an ending would help this piece, as well. I hear a little clipping in the middle of the track (somewhere in the breakdown, I think, where the block SFX are playing - nice SFX, btw). I'm sure it's just a matter of turning down one of the tracks a little, so go fix the clipping. I hear a touch of brick walling in the limiting on the master track, as well, so you might want to take a look at that (might be my ears or headphones, though - it's pretty minimal). The production on it otherwise is tight. The overall sound is great, and the arrangement is very clever. Yes, I also hear a ton of Willrock influence (and did you get that sine intro from me? lol), and it fits this mix well... is that who you were referencing? Great track - with a couple of tweaks I could hear this one on OCR. It's begging for a little length in a couple of sections, though, which I hope you agree to extend. It really sounds incomplete to me otherwise.

Alright, fair enough. I guess we already have a thread about that drama.

I did read the thread, and I saw a reasonable speculation turned sour when people began accusing the creators of sabotaging their own project because it 'never existed'. Because the hack is proven to be real, it hampers the theory in there that the C&D was a fake (or at least it eliminates the primary motive behind posting a fake C&D). Also, OCR seems to be the only place where the general consensus is that it was fake - most other sites that I've visited believe that it was real. Look more carefully into the subject before posting speculation as fact, next time. The whole episode could've been one giant ploy to get the interwebz attention and generate publicity over it, in which case it's succeeding fairly well. In all likelihood, though, the C&D was real, but there's still room for opinion . Yup, I think it is.

Fun little piece, although I can't tell what the source is. I'd be careful posting your music on Facebook, though - their policy gives them non-exclusive rights to whatever you post there. It doesn't affect us, but I'm just sayin'. For an oboe duet (and any duet, really) you must be careful with the counterpoint. I'm hearing a couple of forbidden motions in there, which stand out like a sore thumb. Be sure to fix the Parallel 5ths, especially - the music sounds like you're classically trained, so I think you know what I'm talkin' about. The midi makes the melodic line(s) ambiguous. Be sure to disambiguate the themes when you have the parts performed. Otherwise, it's quite nice. You don't hear too many duets on here, so it's a welcome remix on these boards, imo.