Gario

... I completely forgot about that game. If I recall, it was one of the most horrible game ideas ever, but I don't remember any of the music.

Have your friends do this with you on your weekly get together; I've been doing that to my brother lately ... ...except they probably won't stay too friendly if you do that. I'd personally like to see you sub something to this, though .

I don't mean that the standards are a terrible thing (making production up to their standards is a great thing to do for this), I just didn't want people to treat the music like they would a remix. For example, a remix that involves ambiance would be terrible for OC (I believe they actually make a note of that in their submission standards), but would be an excellent track for the game. The point I was trying to make was that this still should be 'Game first', 'OC next' in the line of priorities when writing for this.It came across the wrong way with my earlier post, but I was tight on time, there Grats, Rozo, for director's position. Now who is working on what and when ?

That's neat... did you go over this with DJP or the J's? I'm sure they're the ones to talk to about this kind of stuff. One thing that bothers me, though - if this goes as an OC project, people my try to conform to what the OC standards are. I have nothing against the OC standards, but they may conflict with what you want for your game. I'm just throwing that out; if your fine with all of that as the creator of this, then that's fine. Good luck with this! Bring up what we need to do as soon as you can - we're all waiting on this

Ah, the wonders of copy/paste cannot be overemphasized . ...and what is Nuendo? I've never heard of that DAW before. I also start with a pre-made file with all of your plugins and mastering the way you like them before the OHC begins... Another trick I've learned from these contests

I've never done one of these before (yet have wanted to for some time, just haven't had the time), and this looks like a good place to start Hopefully I'll be seeing you soon with my mix! Edit: Nevermind, I haven't had sound come out of my workstation for a week. Mark my words, when I get a new computer I'm gonna post up here in celebration.

Alright, the idea and intent was good, but it suffers from a lot of problems. First thing is that the rhythm is all messed up. You start out with a gallop, then due to the rhythmic problems is becomes a reverse gallop. Your melody adds an extra beat somewhere in there. The production is the second thing that catches my ear. The mixing is terrible, at the moment. The melody is drown in the rhythm and drums. Bring the melody up and the rhythm down (I think the drums are alright). Listen to some common thrash or death metal music (Megadeth, Arch Enemy, Death, etc.) - Listen to how they deal with leads and solos. The melodic parts stick out above the rest of the music. The pitch is very off in many places (namely whenever the second part of the source is involved). Study the source better and figure out what's going on. In it's current state it's hard to make out what you wanted this to sound like (thus I can't comment too much on the structure of the piece). This needs some serious cleaning up. I will add, though, that this particular song could make for a great metal mix if done properly, and I commend your effort (actually playing an instrument for a remix deserves respect). The effort, however, is very messy. Clean it up, fix it up and put it back up here and we'll get into more of the details.

Lyreat, if video game sin was the same as regular sin God would personally smote you on the spot. Fortunately it isn't, so only video game nerds will try to smote you. Oh well, that's what this forum's for ...and I never finished Chrono Cross, either (forgot that one in my list). I refused to cheat or take help and got unavoidably stuck.

Pretty imaginative mix of this... I'm bobbin' my head to it. As for structure, yes, there is a problem with it. Firstly, you build up to the material for one third of the song. A buildup is fine, but having it last so long makes it incredibly dreary and boring. Cut the buildup in half, at least, if not more. After that, the material you use is interesting, but sounds very close to the source structurally (like you said, your biggest problem). When you make changes to the song, don't be afraid to piece together fragments of the theme in order to make something on your own to play with. Currently it plays through each theme in it's entirety, which is bland after the first two times you do it. Break it up and make something out of it - that could break up the monotonous tone it's setting right now. The texture is great, and the style is fresh (for this song) - I didn't see it coming Keep it up!

Hah, nice lyrics on it, too .

Sorry to hear that, man. I don't know if you would've fit in this compo this time, anyhow; it was HUGE this time! Great compo, everyone!

Geh heh... ya, I know what you mean...

If Beethoven could hear this, he'd be rolling in his grave.

Indeed! I'd say, because I never played the game I wouldn't have found this music before (which is quite good, BTW), so thank you BGC for posting and refreshing the 'reviews' section again.I've also gotta thank krale and Sam for the whole flamewar that happened here - that was one of the most violent (and therefore most fun) theory fights I've seen in quite some time. I never heard the source so I can't join in (besides, it's 4 years old...), but I'll put my faith in Sam, on this one. Way to go! I've got to say, the way Sam handled this gives me more respect for him than I already did before (Chopan? lol) Oh ya, great mix; very clean, very smooth. I like the instrumentation, in particular - the bass and violin are great! Edit: I'll add that I commended you for the posts, Sam, because of how civil you were about the whole matter (compared to krale). It shows you are the better person

So how dramatic is the difference between the two? I know that it can tempo change, but I don't hear that in this song . I've got to make the change myself someday in the future (I have other priorities at the moment, but it needs to be done soon)... is there any feature in there that is Reason 4 only? As for the mix, it was a fun little listen; it's always nice to try out a new program (or an upgrade) with video game music . BTW, was that some MM2 Wily music that I was hearing at the end? Seemed to fit pretty well, there.

That was a joke... which is why I don't tell jokes often .

Shit! Video game music isn't classic? I always thought we were listening to some of the 'classics' here.

Sorry, this is the thread you were looking for, my good man. Well, now that I'm here, I'd say BoF IV's final boss was a son of a bitch... It was hard, but a good hard, if you now what I mean. It took 2 1/2 hours to kill both forms, and it actually required me to really think the fight through (which isn't true for any other game...). 'Course, I was underleveled for the fight (~37, 38 for the end), so I'm sure that contributed to the difficulty.

I didn't know you could vary this song in so many ways... it's amazing. I really, really like the link to Norfair in there at 2:52 (and the double-time of that at 3:41), it was perfect. I hear that this track is one of the really overmixed tracks on this site, and I'm personally against having so many mixes of the same damn track... unless the latest mix of it is the single best rendition of it on the site. This is the single best rendition of this song on this site. Thank you far making this.

Alas, so did I... in all of it's baby blue glory... I've done that too, sadly... Thanks for opening up that scar for me. Ok, that's beyond me.

As contradictory as it is to my sig, I'd go with A... Although I have the entire torrent, so I may do just what you did, Kizyr - it'll make me a more balanced person )

My shame on the NES... I spent enough time on 'Silver Surfer' to beat the game... without any cheats (but it did have a DAMN GOOD soundtrack, so this may be forgivable). I owned a copy of Amagon (which is utterly unforgivable).

Submit, anyway; I try to even if it is complete crap (like my submission this week ). I don't care, and I'm sure no one else does, either. We are limited to an hour, after all, so we have the perfect excuse .EDIT: Cripes! I guess you guys liked the song! Thanks! I felt it wasn't good enough, I guess... Makes me out to look like an asshole in this forum .

In my humble opinion, SNES always has better music than the Genisis, with few exceptions. This is one of those few exceptions, as this is spectacular.