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Reverb done well and correctly for certain types of sounds with Rhythm guitars does work. Especially for example, if you were trying to mimic a "live concert" type of mix. Or just trying to get them to fit in to the space you are building with your sound. Which can be subtle or not. People even use multiple mics on one cab at different mic positions (or with custom made ones) to mimic the small room quality of a recording studio rather than a purely direct approach. All depends on context and what you want out of it.

It better be beginning of my song if it's in the video! Considering....

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I am TEH EXCITED YAY. NOW I MUST SLEEP.

9 Discs??? BAJESUS. Why not just like a few select tracks like with the official albums that have like 10-20 tracks eh? Do like a bunch of arrange albums that have select tracks. Some songs just can't be arranged by people in ways that won't butcher them. Like town themes. Turning a town theme into like a Heavy metal song, or a Trance song would just imo not work. yah/hate me <3

This is hilarious. I had already claimed the following tracks on TheShizz, Bold=Already done "Metal Gear (MSX) Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake (MSX) Front Mission (SFC) Castlevania (FDS/FC/NES) - http://k004.kiwi6.com/hotlink/5u9b81598r/bonkers_castlevania_game_over_theme.mp3 Castlevania X68K(Sharp X68000)" HAR HAR HAR, is it time to PUT EPIC DIFFERENCES ASIDE AND COLLAB LIKE NUT-CRACKAS?

This is GREAT!! This made my day , really!

Man I remember hearing this back when I was like 12! I had even burned this to a CD at my public library where I first downloaded it, because I didn't have internet at home. Would listen to it all the time. The intro still gets me, and I still think the arrangement is pretty awesome despite what anyone says. It has some really great sounding synth work and has a good feeling to it all.

THIS, is EXACTLY what it means to Strike a Middle Ground. If it's not obvious then, I can't help people. A middle ground is to give your own character to your own version of the song while staying true to the original. Which is EXACTLY why I used The Black Mages/Earthbound Papas as an example. These are the perfect official examples of striking a good middle ground. A good arrangement shouldn't have to take 10 listens to figure out what the source is when the listener is familiar with the original. And if your listener can't identify with the source at some point in the song then what's the point? I remember back when I was like 11 and discovered OCR back in 2001/2002 I'd hear remixes that change stuff so much that I would say "This doesn't sound like *insert song* here at all!" And then I'd hear something that changes the original tune a ton, but it's IMMEDIATELY recognizable and ends up being extremely enjoyable like this http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01043/ Or http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00633/ I remember hearing these for the first time and being blown away, because they sounded amazing and it was extremely easy to hear what the songs were supposed to be. Mind you this was before I had ever picked up a guitar, nor knew anything about music.(even though I had played Trumpet and Violin in Elementary School) So to reiterate, Striking a middle ground is very important. Even more so because it's so much harder to do than just completely change the song altogether , or be completely conservative. It can be 20% original 80% source or whatever so much as it retains the character of the original songs while giving it your own character (which itself can be a million things from the choice of instrument, to the style of percussion, or even the structure of the piece etc etc)with your arrangement OR instrumentation. This is my opinion, true (and not a fact), but I will likely NEVER change my view on this mostly based on the personal belief that this is the right and best way to approach things when it comes to , so-called "Remixes" My personal rule is to generally try to make the song recognizeable within the first minute if i'm making a really widly creative/different type of arrangement or else I know that , if, I was the listener, i'd lose interest by that point. *cough*Maverick Rising*cough*MMX4/5 Dr.Light*cough*

Don't start with that bullhonkey. You change too much stuff = people dont' like it. You aren't making a NEW song, you are making a new version of an EXISTING song. SO, ergo it needs to remain faithful to the original material to a large extent in order to not completely alienate the fans of the original music. Unless of course, your audience is NOT in fact fans of FFVI's original music and you are just trying to make liberal bullhonkey that appeals to fellow musicians , while 99% of average listeners won't get, understand or like it. Why do you think some people say negative things about some stuff OCR does? Because people don't like how the music is Drastically changed. It's extremely important to strike a middle ground with an Arrangement of a piece of music. Why else would official arrangements and things like The Black Mages/Earthbound Papas be so good, yet they change many elements from the originals? Because they are faithful and strike a middle ground. Old but new. Refreshing but original. New instrumentation on a simpler piece of music. Also: I'd like to if possible, make a bonus track version of the Prelude that stays truer to the original piece(The FFVI version, which means bit slower paced than other version like the NES Preludes, like I did for Random Encounter) of music without changing the melody if that's alright. (sort of like I want to do with Battle, make this an extension of the original composition) I've already started a WIP

Since the Vocals are pretty much the centerpiece of the music and the singing conveys the story of the song. It should,but who knows .. I hope it does have vocals though, just not radically changed vocals. Like for example if someone were to change an Aria, into a hip-hop rap song or some shit like that lol.

Well whatever the case, I still think we should get a private forum on KNGI I need to post WIPS and discuss stuff about the song with people(especially if we are going to Collab). As well help others when and if applicable. Especially if i'm going to get my arrangement 50% done by the 19th. I'm not sure if i'm getting this, but generally if people are gonna do Aria it would make sense to have Consistency in every area. When you think of the original soundtrack in the game. There are 0 inconsistencies in sound quality nor in production of the songs. And I think that especially needs to hold true for Aria which in the game is a lot of songs melded into one giant masterpiece. But if it's done well, the end result could be magnificent! Though it's hard to beat this version, which is my favorite. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GNilFsGGV8

I'm definitely for Orchestral. Kefka's Theme is really geared towards fat and chunky sounding brass and cellos +timpani. At least in my head it is har har har. Also: Prophecy I had a pretty good idea. What if we mixed Live recorded strings with your sequenced ones and could create a neat little unique sounding ensemble? I'm trying to think of lines in my head at the moment. But production wise, i could probably write sheets using overture and send them to whomever will play the live strings and to you as well. Just an idea, but would maybe have some interesting results! I'm gonna spend a little time seeing what Ideas for song structure I can hear in my so I can write it in my song planner as well.

OH whoever said something about getting into contact with Kyle from KNGI , I second that. It makes it so we can have private discussion on WIPS and in general just about anything in the project that needs to be private. We used it for Vampire Variations and It was used for Maverick Rising too. Also: If I get a quick turn around on Battle Theme, I'll look at other songs after I finish my work for FFII which is more of a priority right now. And try to find ways to extend the original arrangements or meet a middle ground so I don't fuck up people's memory of the original songs.

Yeah I can do that, my DP track is this I created this song for Vampire Variations. And then after it was released like many of us,subbed it to OCR so we could get more people to listen to the music from the album and hopefully give them interest in other songs from it. http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/r3zv091523/15_children_of_the_wicked_wicked_child_bonkers.mp3 (I apologize for the bass, it's a bit heavy in the big parts) A few days or a week or two (somethin like that) I got an email from OA saying the song had been flagged for Direct Post And just for the record, hope there was no misunderstandings guys(on my end either if I came off sounding douchey or offensive in any way), I totally get where you are coming from. And I can understand how you want to do things(same for how I would want to do things if I were to do something like this). It's all good. No disrespect!

I guess it means nothing that I have 3 songs that have been approved by the judges but 2 can't be posted and who knows when the DP-flagged one will get posted. How can I be held liable for something that isn't under my control? Anywho it doesn't matter, I'd rather not sequence Strings(though I am VERY proficient at sequencing. See: http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/5y56zn1889/09_the_gate_of_nightmares_medley_bonkers_ft_vikingguitar.mp3) I'd just like a more unique approach to the tone. Because using sample libraries means that part of the character of those instruments recorded for it will always be the same. Having a live performer with their own instrument can help alleviate have more distinct character. Or maybe i'm just insane ? *shrug* One step at a time.

I'm hoping maybe I can find someone who can play live Trumpet and strings and stuff. I may end up going to Hat and asking him hah. But,one step at a time.

Try this direct link then. It should work. http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/9yfmj4pf0c/ffvi_battle_theme_concept.mp3 Note though that it's extremely barebones. Made it in about an hour.

If I can I would like to Claim "Battle Song" I have 2 songs passed on the panel right now that are project mixes and 1 DP song that is waiting to be posted. I'm really hesitant to step into this album because FFVI is a very popular and sensitive game and personally for a lot of reasons. The Original sound , I LOVE IT. As I do for most of the FF games and I consider FFIV-XIII to sound perfect in their original forms. Also, I really don't want to step on the toes of fans of the music by RADICALLY changing the genres of a lot of the music.(Because when you change something that much, you are changing and possibly destroying what the music is to them and how they remember it from the game , how they hear it and whatnot) So for that reason I want to keep most of the original instrumentation of the original music and expand upon that. That means, a fast paced(at first, can be changed) rock battle theme with a Trumpet lead. String accompaniment and acoustic drums. That also means, I'd like to have Live performances for most if not all instruments-(I can of course do live guitar/bass). I may also throw other instruments in there in other sections I don't know. All I know so far is that Brandon Strader is pushing for me to take this while I can, and I can hear a faint image of what i'd like to do in my head. I'll take it one step at a time. Proof of Concept: http://www.box.com/s/g4regidvkpt2ygl5zr4u (updated)

Gotta say , I enjoyed this a lot more than I thought I would! The integration of Portrait of Ruin's and Symphony of The Night's versions of Bloodlines is VERY well done! ;-)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0037M872Q/ref=oh_o00_s00_i01_details Been using these for the last month or two. .012-.060 (Before you go "LOLWUT" I've had my guitar tuned to C for pretty much the last year or two) They generally sound great, but I need to have my nut modified to fit them better among other things. I need to replace the G-string though, because it's not wound and it sounds terrible. You'd think @.020 it'd be wound. Or at least there's probably something wrong with my guitar that always makes my G-String sound terrible. Even with good intonation. Before this, I was using either http://www.amazon.com/DR-Strings-DDT-11-Nickel-Electric/dp/B003JFZ562/ref=pd_bxgy_MI_text_c or http://www.amazon.com/DR-Strings-DDT-12-Nickel-Electric/dp/B003JFVESA/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1321408975&sr=1-5 I can't recall.