Triad Orion Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 So basically this guy is so ingrained in Melee physics he refuses to adapt. I don't care how good people say this guy is. It sounds to me that he's unable to get by without his fancy tricks and exploits. Granted, he really knows his Melee stuff, but it seems that he has no appreciation for simplicity. It's not to say his opinion isn't valid, but it just seems like he's crying because he can't dominate anymore. I won't claim to be a Smash master, but seriously. Perspective, people... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hausdog Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 With a little bit more venom, that could've easily been posted as a satire. The whole tripping thing seems really bad, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealFolkBlues Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 You're all wrong. Ukemi is when you use your Zoom-In VFX just before you hit the ground after being punched in the face by a bad guy....Wait, wrong game. Still, couldn't help but chuckle at the name of the technique. Ooh, oh, tag the martial arts nerd in! Achem, ukemi is a Japanese term for the art of the uke. The uke is literally the one who gives force, or in layman's terms, the attacker. Thus, ukemi incorporates techniques such as breakfalls and rolls for the protection of the uke after his or her force is met by the nage (defender) and countered. Thus, ukemi gets used in games a lot as a term for break or "tech" falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drack Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Tripping isn't too bad. It is indeed completely random. It is rare. It's dumb, but you can use a get-up attack or roll or whatever to get out of it so it's not a real nuisance. Mew2King's "review" after playing a few hours is about how I felt after playing one match. It's not Melee. Not even close. After playing a few hours I loved it, and after a few days I've adapted completely and can play Brawl reasonably well (No one is pro at this game yet. This takes time to thoroughly learn all the system's ins and outs and figure out what this means for you and your opponent). Tourney fags are tourney fags. They have their own viewpoint, I have mine. Brawl has met my sky-high expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 EDIT: Removing Youtube link until I can figure out how not to make the video embed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCatPhysician Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 So basically this guy is so ingrained in Melee physics he refuses to adapt. I don't care how good people say this guy is. It sounds to me that he's unable to get by without his fancy tricks and exploits. Granted, he really knows his Melee stuff, but it seems that he has no appreciation for simplicity.It's not to say his opinion isn't valid, but it just seems like he's crying because he can't dominate anymore. I won't claim to be a Smash master, but seriously. Perspective, people... his disappointment doesn't have anything to do with whether he'll dominate in the game, it's just that to him it doesn't seem like it'll be as fun as melee, without all the things that made melee intense and deep. not saying i agree, i still have to play the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLiterate Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Tripping isn't too bad.It is indeed completely random. It is rare. It's dumb, but you can use a get-up attack or roll or whatever to get out of it so it's not a real nuisance. Mew2King's "review" after playing a few hours is about how I felt after playing one match. It's not Melee. Not even close. After playing a few hours I loved it, and after a few days I've adapted completely and can play Brawl reasonably well (No one is pro at this game yet. This takes time to thoroughly learn all the system's ins and outs and figure out what this means for you and your opponent). Tourney fags are tourney fags. They have their own viewpoint, I have mine. Brawl has met my sky-high expectations. You just can't think Mew2King is the leader of tournament players, many tournament players like the game right now, he's just pissed because he can't be instantly good at the sequel and might not be one of the best anymore, boo hoo for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Jarna Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 You just can't think Mew2King is the leader of tournament players, many tournament players like the game right now, he's just pissed because he can't be instantly good at the sequel and might not be one of the best anymore, boo hoo for him M2K is somewhat famous for his brag-a-thons. He has a website devoted to his video game achievements, and blah blah blah he's full of himself. I was kinda disappointed that Mew2King doesn't use M2 @ tourneys, though. ON TOPIC: So tripping is totally random? That sucks. I'll have to practice my aerial movement so I don't stay on the ground too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 M2K is somewhat famous for his brag-a-thons. He has a website devoted to his video game achievements, and blah blah blah he's full of himself.I was kinda disappointed that Mew2King doesn't use M2 @ tourneys, though. ON TOPIC: So tripping is totally random? That sucks. I'll have to practice my aerial movement so I don't stay on the ground too much. if you played melee for any amount of time you should already engage in most of your combat in the air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Jarna Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 if you played melee for any amount of time you should already engage in most of your combat in the air I normally do - Peach user, yo. But I like to use her dash attack more than I probably should, if this tripping thing happens often enough to screw with that. If it doesn't then w/e - a chance of failure comes with everything in Melee, so tripping just makes it slightly higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hausdog Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I normally do - Peach user, yo. But I like to use her dash attack more than I probably should, if this tripping thing happens often enough to screw with that. If it doesn't then w/e - a chance of failure comes with everything in Melee, so tripping just makes it slightly higher. At least in Melee the failure made SENSE. Luigi and Pichu misfiring made sense. G&W picking the wrong number made sense. If you trip while running, you don't deserve to be in a fighting tourney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 tripping is rare unless you are playing me as diddy kong in which case there will be banana peels all over the place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Jarna Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 At least in Melee the failure made SENSE. Luigi and Pichu misfiring made sense. G&W picking the wrong number made sense. If you trip while running, you don't deserve to be in a fighting tourney. Pichu doesn't misfire. But I see where you're coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLiterate Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 tripping is rareunless you are playing me as diddy kong in which case there will be banana peels all over the place I trip a lot actually, it seems to have something to do with dash dancing, moving back and forth, who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 tried to record a video that demonstrates the lag (this is with someone from ny) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLLW_J5YiF4 if you listen you can hear the click of the control stick and see that he rolls half a second later, also when i pull pikmin ill stand there for a half second before he does anything its annoying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 (I would HIGHLY advise that you do not watch past 1:18 with the volume turned high. Just an FYI ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HershDawg Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 the happiest thing was when I found out this track was there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRGDlF5FyKw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Jarna Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 (I would HIGHLY advise that you do not watch past 1:18 with the volume turned high. Just an FYI ) I jumped. Then lol'ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Samus Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Holy crap castle!! I didn't even have the music that loud and I still jumped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 (I would HIGHLY advise that you do not watch past 1:18 with the volume turned high. Just an FYI ) That was the most terrifying thing I think I have ever seen in my entire life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad McRadderson Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 all the people who say brawl can't be played competetively make me lol when marvel vs capcom 2 first came out people said sentinel was too slow for competetive play moral of the story: everyone knows precisely dick about a fighting game when it first comes out and it's hard telling where a game will go in tournies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 I can't wait to play this competitively. I also can't wait to get US release to see if the LAG IS GONE. lag = GET WORKIN ON THAT NINTENDO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 ya if they cant get rid of this lag this game will seriously piss me off yes i am bringing back an old argument but on CERTAIN OTHER CONSOLES ive played people in germany japan and the uk at the SAME time and it has been COMPLETELY lag free so ya no excuse nintendo your online interface sucks enough dont ABSOLUTELY kill it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 ya if they cant get rid of this lag this game will seriously piss me offyes i am bringing back an old argument but on CERTAIN OTHER CONSOLES ive played people in germany japan and the uk at the SAME time and it has been COMPLETELY lag free so ya no excuse nintendo your online interface sucks enough dont ABSOLUTELY kill it thats because its on live's servers and you kind of have to pay for those cant compare apples and oranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 thats because its on live's servers and you kind of have to pay for thosecant compare apples and oranges yes i can on lives servers they are hosting TONS of games at once the wii has less than 10 online games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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