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That's so true. The interesting thing will be when the store is back up, how are they going to release the backlog of games (things like Outland)? I'm sure releases will have to stagger, but there has to be a certain point when PSN catches up to xbox live.

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i know i heard something about getting free playstation + for a month but has sony officially announced any other "welcome back" incentives? Has the playstation + thing started yet? I'm assuming you have to opt into it at some point.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/16/details-for-playstation-network-and-qriocity-customer-appreciation-program-in-north-america/

all playstation network customers can select two ps3 games from the following list. The games will be available for 30 days shortly after playstation store is restored and can be kept forever.

Dead nation

infamous

littlebigplanet

super stardust hd

wipeout hd + fury

for psp owners, you will be eligible to download two psp games from the following list. The games will be available for 30 days shortly after playstation store is restored and can be kept forever.

Littlebigplanet (psp)

modnation racers

pursuit force

killzone liberation

a selection of “on us” rental movie titles will be available to playstation network customers over one weekend, where video service is available. Those titles will be announced soon.

30 days free playstation plus membership for non playstation plus subscribers.

Existing playstation plus subscribers will receive an additional 60 days of free subscription.

Existing music unlimited premium trial subscription members will receive an additional 30 days of free premium subscription.

Additional 30 days + time lost for existing members of music unlimited premium/basic subscription free of charge for existing premium/basic members.

To welcome users home, playstation home will be offering 100 free virtual items. Additional free content will be released soon, including the next addition to the home mansion personal space, and ooblag’s alien casino, an exclusive game.

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I was hopin for more than 2, and for a credit to choose whatever game you want, but I guess this is ok. Will definitely grab inFamous.. Anyone know which other one is worth getting most? Was looking at Dead Nation, but it seems like Zombie Apocalypse which I already have on 360...

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I was hopin for more than 2, and for a credit to choose whatever game you want, but I guess this is ok. Will definitely grab inFamous.. Anyone know which other one is worth getting most?

Are you seriously bitching about 2 free games?

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If anything I bitched about having my private information being stolen, possibly even my credit card, not being told about it for a week after it happened and 23 days total of not knowing what the hackers had access to. Don't judge me, sir. Sony got off very light on this one.

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If you already had LBP thats a pretty crappy selection honestly. Its OK i guess if you dont though.

Also, all the free games in the world wont make up for the network going down if it goes down right again. If it ever comes up fully. Not really much to celebrate at the moment.

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Yay! I'm gonna get Dead Nation and Super Stardust HD since those are the only ones I don't already own. (Strader: the other games on that PS3 list are good games. If you like futuristic racing w/ weaponry and great eletronic music, get Wipeout HD. LBP is great for anyone with a soul. There are lots of great levels premade on the disc and there's a whole lot of user-created levels on the online portion of the game.)

Aaaand LBPsp and Killzone Liberaccion on PSP will be great!

And I like PS Home so the 100 free clothing/items is pretty cool. :3

I like movie rentals too.

I'm happy.

I'm not saying everyone should feel ecstatic about these offerings but at least you're getting something.

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@OCRE: I'm getting Dead Nation and Infamous, I already have LBP... so we can play together sometime when the system is back stable and the games are downloaded. :-) I looked at trailers for all of the games and decided I would probably have the most fun with Dead Nation, the others looked goood though.

Might actually be cool to see how many OCR people will be playing Dead Nation and get something going

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Also note that I believe all these games are published/distributed by Sony. Therefore in the end they aren't actually losing anything, which is why they aren't giving credit for games. If anything, giving away items has been known to increase revenue and interest in your services (See Valve's price drops & giveaways). So in the end, this might could be seen as a marketing ploy to attract people to their services rather than an actual appology.

Just a thought.

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Considering they don't really accept accountability over the issue nor show any sincere regret over it, I'd say it's safe to assume that what Crowbar Dude said is pretty accurate

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I'm really picky about which games I play, so I'm only going to download one, Super Stardust, unless I find out that Infamous is the best game EVER or something. Yeah, it's still down in Japan.

you would be insane not to get infamous

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yeah because it's totally sony's fault that their servers were shot down by outside attackers

Has the investigation going on suggest that its not so far? I don't think much information has been released to say Sony isn't at all at fault.

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Considering they don't really accept accountability over the issue nor show any sincere regret over it...

I could understand you saying they haven't expressed regret if they hadn't offered up any sort of apology or a compensation reward but they're providing complimentary ID theft protection services, they have apologized and they're giving us complimentary games/movie rentals/services and offering extended services for their paying customers that suffered from the downtime, among other things.

I'm curious as to what you think would better demonstrate "sincere regret"? Were you hoping they would give everyone $400?

They can't turn back the hands of time and get your name and address back from the jerk that took them.

I understand and even concede that it would've been nice to get a voucher to pick a game instead of choosing from a list of popular titles, but luckily for me, I don't own every title they're offering up, and I doubt many people do.

And how should they "accept accountability"? By saying the breach was their fault when they claim their security was up-to-date and up to standard? I know there were reports that claimed Sony wasn't running the latest version of Apache, but that turned out to be bogus. I know it's easy to be hard on Sony and ask for their head on a silver platter (and I don't doubt a lot of people would've been happy for this to be the end of them) but let's try to keep perspective. Presumably what launched this data breach into being was that Sony took legal action to protect its business (short version).

Have they paid enough for that 'offense'?

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I could understand you saying they haven't expressed regret if they hadn't offered up any sort of apology or a compensation reward but they're providing complimentary ID theft protection services, they have apologized and they're giving us complimentary games/movie rentals/services and offering extended services for their paying customers that suffered from the downtime, among other things.

I'm curious as to what you think would better demonstrate "sincere regret"? Were you hoping they would give everyone $400?

They can't turn back the hands of time and get your name and address back from the jerk that took them.

I understand and even concede that it would've been nice to get a voucher to pick a game instead of choosing from a list of popular titles, but luckily for me, I don't own every title they're offering up, and I doubt many people do.

And how should they "accept accountability"? By saying the breach was their fault when they claim their security was up-to-date and up to standard? I know there were reports that claimed Sony wasn't running the latest version of Apache, but that turned out to be bogus. I know it's easy to be hard on Sony and ask for their head on a silver platter (and I don't doubt a lot of people would've been happy for this to be the end of them) but let's try to keep perspective. Presumably what launched this data breach into being was that Sony took legal action to protect its business (short version).

Have they paid enough for that 'offense'?

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I'm standing by what I said before; I'm still waiting for someone to claim identity theft stemming from this.

I still think that as backwards as it may seem, their tactic of claiming theft to make themselves out to be the victims makes sense. Disagree if you want, I don't think any of us can prove nor disprove anything. It's all farts in the wind until something develops.

I know, I know, they're offering complementary ID protection, but after the hellstorm that(I feel) they created, I'm surprised their "top-notch investigative team" hasn't found an IP address to track/subpoena/sue to hell and back. That hasn't happened. I mean, come on, guys. Would it be so hard to send the attack-dog legal team after the webmasters hosting the Rebug exploit?

My original theory still stands:

1. they discover the rebug exploit

2. they decide to create a smokescreen

3. said diversion grows a life of its own

4. they bring back services saying "we're ALL victims. the big-bad, UNNAMED hacker got though us, to YOU, and WE were PROTECTING YOU!"

5. they offer first-party software to people as a "welcome back", knowing that people will eat it up, minimizing reductions to their userbase

6. said "Unnamed Hacker" is never found, the ruse vanishes quietly while they look less like morons than they really are.

7. gullible gamers around the world rejoice as their rape ends, all the while thanking their own attacker, and Sony looks for the next thing to weasel out of.

...Yeah. Go Sony. I'm looking for any alternatives I can find to stay the hell away from that. I know that if hackers hadn't found the rebug exploit, none of this would've happened. I get that. I can also speculate that It would've happened AT SOME POINT, and, I can speculate that, again, if they hadn't tried to squash honest tinkerers(like GeoHot), Rebug wouldn't have been found(at least, not so soon).

Again, it's all speculation, but judging by their immaculate track record, I'm all the more inclined to feel like Granny's big teeth are waiting to bite me.

Unless I'm missing something. I've kept up on this thread, is there some major piece of data that I haven't seen that says otherwise?

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Unless I'm missing something. I've kept up on this thread, is there some major piece of data that I haven't seen that says otherwise?

I would suggest to you that taking down their service purposely for so long makes no sense financially -- Capcom was fuming that they as a 3rd party was losing hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I understand that you don't like Sony -- I'm not a huge fan either after they got rid of OtherOS. But this is going way too far into the land of crazy conspiracy theory. No company would hurt their image this badly on purpose, period.

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Unless I'm missing something. I've kept up on this thread, is there some major piece of data that I haven't seen that says otherwise?

How about every news site on the internet ?

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While I'm not trying to come out and defend Sony here, I'm still not entirely sure why they, the victims of a massive security breach, are getting much more shit than the actual perpetrators.

Do people just need someone to blame, and since the perp is nowhere to be found, we blame the victim instead?

If so many people take issue with Sony, then don't buy their products or support their business in any way whatsoever.

If anything, this should serve to illustrate that the more things change, the more things stay the same. The internet has always been dangerous, and you're always taking a calculated risk whenever you put any sort of information out there. It doesn't matter how highly encrypted Sony makes PSN, if it can be brought up, it can be taken down.

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