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OCR01396 - Doom "Ghosts of Mars"


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This was one of my favourite Dark Side of Phobos songs, possibly for the fact that you could notice the main melody clearly. The choir does a good job at being the main lead, and is nice to listen too. Still can't figure out what those sounds at the start and end are (footsteps?), and why they're used. Nice work.

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I instantly fell in love with this piece when I first heard it as a WIP. This is just my kinda stuff.

The ambience is the key here. The overall sound canvas is just so capturing. To me, this is a moviesong. And to me, that is a very good thing indeed.

If we´d made a trailer for DSOP (as they did in Chrono Symphonic - such a cool idea) this would be the song in the beginning. (Then at its climax, when the action starts, it would off course burst into violent dose of Hangarmageddon. :D)

Anyways I really love this. It brings visual images in my mind and really takes the listener to its world. I would love to see a movie that has this playing on the background of its opening credits.

Take me to the desert baby! I wanna get nasty!

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I'm not really into this mix. The production seems kind of cheezy to me (choirs blaring too loudly, same effects being reused, ideas dragging on for too long, grating violin usage, lack of enough textures within the background and atmosphere to keep things interesting and full where they could be). There's some nice light and unique touches in places, and I enjoy how some sections sort of creep up on you, but I believe that alot more could have been done to provoke feeling here, like adding a more noticable bassline in places, having some ambient noise or screaming at around 2:50 to give those uneventful bells some life, taking volumes of certain notes up gradually, playing around with wind sounds or low frequency effects at 3:39, bringing out the plucked strings and cycling harps more clearly, doing something entirely different than the twinkling at 4:38 before the static loops back to the start to keep things fresh, etc. I don't have enough desire to make a detailed list of suggestions, though; this song just seems much too lacking to me for what it is.

I really liked your other version of E2L4 though (atleast in it's more raw, psychotic WIP stages - that clean version with the intro/outro feels more mundane).

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This mix reminds me of 'Machina Anesthesia'. So I think it´s clearly some New Age stuff. I´m not familiar with the original source tune. Also, I listened few mixes of the Mythril. But here, it is a great effort. I noticed he started working on this song at October of the last year and finished that in July, now. Then I found 9 months on the transition of this mix. Very pleasant and powerful work.

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Nice observation! And you are correct to boot.

This track was greatly influenced by the soundtrack to both Akira and the Ghost in the Shell series, thus the original choice for the name ("Ghosts In The Lab"). Eventually, it morphed into "Ghosts of Mars" - which, by coincidence, is a very fun sci fi movie.

The instrumentation is specifically based on a couple of tracks from the Ghost in the Shell: Innocence soundtrack, the Parade scene and the Dollhouse theme.

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For me, this is very hard to get into. Perhaps it's because I'm not familiar with the source material. Anyway, I'll comment on this based as a stand-alone track. I can easily appreciate the effort put forth into this mix, as it's obviously very well done. I suppose it's just not my cup of tea.. though I must say I love the percussion in this. What turns me off, for whatever reason, is the usage of the choral samples. Also, I'm not much of a fan of that section from 2:20-3:40 with the xylophone taking the lead; it just plods along. 4:06-4:34 is probably my favorite part of the ReMix - I think that part is really cool.

Anyway, I'm a fan of your other OCRs, so I should probably comment on those sometime instead of releasing negativity like I did on this one. :)

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I have to say, this makes good pizza-eating music. Everything in this mix (mmm, mix) sounds crisp and piping hot.

The first 30 seconds or so set the burning atmosphere. There's so many subtle crevices and additions on the surface it's hard to keep track of them all. But they help with the flavor. The staticy intro is the sizzling of the pizza fresh from the oven, the tiny bells are the shiny reflections of the cheese. And of course hell evokes warm colors: reds, oranges, and yellows. Pepperoni pizza (which I'm eating right now) goes by this color scheme too.

Those virgin sacrifices sound like they're singing "HOT... HOT, HOT..." Their ecstatic high notes around 2:09 - 2:13 feels like a burn on the roof of the mouth, or at least a mouthful. I guess the drums (they're deceptively varied) would be the crust on the bottom in its subtle brown hues, or the big pepperoni slices. I have no idea what the pizzicato strings would be on pizza, but they fit. (Wait... "pizzicato"... "pizza"... hmmm...) The heavy percussion at 4:04 and elsewhere reminds me of cheese, maybe because of the grating action.

And back it goes at the end to its previous state, a continuing stretch of a delicious desert [sic]. Time for another slice!

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Eerie SFX-laden intro starts things out; I have finally been broken of my condition to shy away from doom mixes (maybe someday I'll learn to love metroid too >_> ), thanks to the tireless work of mixers like TO; and Myf further proves me wrong with this track. Ok guys, I was wrong, i'm sorry!

Percussion on this ranges the gamut, and works really well, as it really sets the mood. A lot of it sounds like it could be actual debris found in a blasted-out space station that was picked up and put to more a more musical purpose.

Instruments are a good mix of bells and pads, strings, and some solo orchestral instruments. All are well used, and they convey an eerie, desolate soundscape, without things sounding too minimalist.

The choir is obviously synthetic, I don't think anyone would be fooled by those samples, but it is used in such a way that it sounds very good. Way to play to it's strengths.

If you are a fan of moody and dark soundscapes, it doesn't get much better than this track.

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Let me say this first - in the years since the release for The Dark Side of Phobos, I've been able to keep a hold on a good portion of the tracks for being able to create such involving and fitting atmospheres at the time, regardless of any nostalgic connection to the source material. Navi's track was among them, not only having that kind of quality amongst the Doom project's offering, but also doing a complete 180 in regards to how he generally approaches his work. And I have to say that even today, it holds up really strong :)

E2M4 as a source is a difficult one to arrange due to how minimalist and suspenseful it is, but what he did was turned it into something more dynamic and frightening while still maintaining the source's core elements. This is noted with the use of the altered choir melody providing the original's pizzicato line in a slightly modified form, adding some form of hopeful tone, which is later echoed with the glockenspiel at 2:45 with the more minimalist progression sandwiched between the major climaxes of the track. In spite of the melodic components, there's been a lot to express fear with more atonal passages within backing tracks, which appears to be a far cry from the chromatic harmonies of the source material but it still works in providing its atmosphere. I say that in regards to source usage, it isn't exactly outright and can be difficult to pick out at first, but what is there was used wisely for the arrangement's scope.

Even the production held up well over time. Sure, some of the samples like the choir and strings may appear to be showing their age now, but some of the techniques used here, from the subtle high-grated pads, the vinyl bookending it and a lot of the swelled metals managed to contribute something more unique on a technical front at the time of the album's release. The two sharp rises in tempo are two of the most identifiable components of the track for me - that with what's going on with the more organic instrumentation really ends up taking "They're Coming to Get You" to a very literal meaning, and is thus easily bound to grab the attention of the listeners. Considering the track is 7 years old, these tricks sound really impressive and have done a lot to make it stand out among the other tracks on DSoP.

Even today I still have it on my iPod playlist in spite of Navi taking more conventional mixing methods as of late, and that's a testament to how firm it felt to me over the years. If you haven't grabbed DSoP yet, now's a good time - could even be perfect for Halloween! :D

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