BigBoss Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Aren't you advocating your own "right way to play" by denying that edgehogging is a legitimate strategy? Yes. When Jack referred to the 'right way to play' guys, I assume he was referring to the people who complain when any level but Final Destination or the mere mention of items comes up. As in, the fgts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKieser Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I can see where you are coming with that. I have a friend who uses Falco AND the C-stick. And it BLOWS. He's way faster than me, and for the first 3 or so fights, I bitch like hell. But then I acclimate and get him back. I guess that's the only difference; just try adjusting your own strategy to force them to do things the hard (and more fun) way. --Jack Kieser PS: And, I meant all of you guys who fight about that. I try to stay out of it, because I think its arrogant of me to say there is a certain way to play. Really, only the devs can make that call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBoss Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 just try adjusting your own strategy to force them to do things the hard (and more fun) way. I do. I turn all the items on and go to Poke Floats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ero Elohim Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 They should just take out edgehogging. If someone is already grabbing on the ledge you want to grab, you grab on that person's feet instead. That way, there's still a bit of an advantage to the person edgehogging (since the person 'hogging could drop at any moment), but it's not this super cheap move wherein you bitchslap someone off the level and then prevent them from using one of the most basic moves in the game to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKieser Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Good ole' Poke Floats... The bane of tournament play. But I meant change your strategy in-fight. Like, see them edgeguard and play differently. --Jack Kieser PS: ^ Wow, that would be super awesome. Imagine if a chain of 4 players could recover like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBoss Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 And even though I wavedash myself, I think they should do that and take out wavedashing. There's not much they can do to improve the physics engine (which definitely needed improvement) if they don't take out the most known of glitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eulogic Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 You guys just sound like sore losers. One of my friends would find something to complain about no matter what I did, as I would consistently beat him. He compained if I edgeguarded in any way, used the same attack more than once or twice in a row, didn't mindlessly run at him and attack, or used any advanced technique. Now, I consider myself a tournament-level player (and have been to tournaments), but, with friends, I usually play with random level with items on medium. You, like my friend, wants everyone to conform to their lack of skill and experience with the game, dumbing down the game a lot. I love playing the game, but when, even if I don't wavedash, edgeguard, shffl, etc., my friend would still slam his controller down and storm off, it pissed me off probably far more than it pisses you off when you can't compensate for edgehogging. EDIT: Did Jack actually just complain about someone using the C-stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBoss Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Edgehogging is the only thing that bothers me. I can't think of anything else (except people who play as Link and literally do nothing but use the Spin Attack) that annoys me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eulogic Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 (except people who play as Link and literally do nothing but use the Spin Attack) Why does that bother you? If you remotely know what you're doing, they can't possibly win. You beat them a few times and they'll eventually change strategies or characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBoss Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 It's easy to counter. Really easy. It just makes it really boring to play against them because they're so predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HideousBeing Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 They should just take out edgehogging. If someone is already grabbing on the ledge you want to grab, you grab on that person's feet instead. That seriously made me laugh out loud. Not that it's preposterous or anything, just imagine a chain of characters holding onto each others feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eulogic Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 It's easy to counter. Really easy. It just makes it really boring to play against them because they're so predictable. I've never known someone who would continue that strategy after they get their asses handed to them soundly a few matches in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKieser Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 EDIT: Did Jack actually just complain about someone using the C-stick? Normally I wouldn't, but I don't think he has ever touched the A-button in his life on Melee... I need to tell him about the Z-charge, though. He'd get a kick out of that. --Jack Kieser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Normally I wouldn't, but I don't think he has ever touched the A-button in his life on Melee... I need to tell him about the Z-charge, though. He'd get a kick out of that.--Jack Kieser Lol, no grabs for him I'm afraid. I would actually love to see someone win completely with B moves once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friendlyHunter Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Lol, no grabs for him I'm afraid. I would actually love to see someone win completely with B moves once. Yeah, and I'd love to see a soccer team win by only heading the ball. ....actually, it might be possible to pull of a B-move only win with Jigglypuff or Capt. Falcon, maybe Marth or Roy..... [Edit] Just don't tell your opponent that you're only going to use B moves =p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKieser Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Oh, you can't say that a soccer team winning like that wouldn't at very least be YouTube worthy... I think that would be cool to see, as well. --Jack Kieser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike911 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 That would be pretty cool actually if when you were on a ledge by pressing Z you could put your hand out where you would become a ledge for another player to catch on.... that way you could save teammates and stuff. Hehe. It'd be like 'Little Big Planet.' haha. I could totally dig hanging off of other people that are hanging on ledges, that's an awesome idea. hehe. Edit: and while I might disagree with BigBoss, I do appreciate his vigor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 poke floats is not banned in tournaments and edgehogging is good and you lose a ton of aerial power if you dont use the c stick in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Huge! Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 ness better not get removed i like ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike911 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 okay, its 5 minutes past when they typically update... whats up with the lateness. *cries* *taps foot impatiently* I need my Smash Brawl Crack fix, damn it! EDIT: OKAY, the update was late, but its here! BUT.... ....but seriously, WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?! WHAT THE FUCK!? edit 2: whatever this is about, its labeled as a game mode... and important enough to get its own little area in the game mode section. hmm. I wonder if Smash Bros will have some kind of "story" .... hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFrost Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 it's just zero suit samus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Tempora Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 What in the... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KakTheInfected Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Oooooooooooh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKieser Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Ok, would anybody care to try to explain just what the hell was up with that? --Jack Kieser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 gayest thing ever seriously next to --Jack Kieser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts