dsx100 Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Here's my yes vote. Dreamcast Powerstone 2 Soul Calibur Street Fighter III: Third Strike PS2 Burnout 3: Takedown Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King Final Fantasy XII Guitar Hero Katamari Damacy Kingdom Hearts Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty Onimusha 2: Samurai’s Destiny Prince of Persia: Sands of Time Shadow of the Colossus Soul Calibur II Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies God of War Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy XBOX Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge Halo Ninja Gaiden Black Prince of Persia: Sands of Time Psychonauts Resident Evil 4 Soul Calibur II Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Conker: Live and Reloaded Castlevania: Curse of Darkness Baldur’s Gate: Dark Alliance Gamecube Eternal Darkness: Sanity’s Requiem Skies of Arcadia Legends Soul Calibur II Super Mario Sunshine Nintendo DS Advance Wars: Dual Strike Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow NEW Super Mario Bros. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Mario Kart DS PSP Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops Here's my no vote. Dreamcast Marvel vs. Capcom 2 Metropolis Street Racer Capcom vs. SNK Sonic Adventure PS2 Ace Combat 5 Playstation 2 Devil May Cry Grand Theft Auto III MegaMan Anniversery Collection Silent Hill 2 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht Devil May Cry 2 Ghost in a Shell: Stand Alone Complex Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec Silent Hill 3 Silpheed: The Lost Planet Tekken Tag Tournament Twisted Metal: Black XBOX Burnout 3: Takedown Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO Dead or Alive Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 2 Oddworld: Stranger’s Wrath Doom 3 XIII Gamecube F-Zero GX Ikaruga Mario Power Tennis Metroid Prime Viewtiful Joe Wario Ware Inc.: Mega Party Game$ Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker Mario Party 5 Metroid Prime 2: Echoes Pikmin Star Fox Adventures Tales of Symphonia Resident Evil Nintendo DS Metroid Prime: Hunters Why don't you support your reasoning for giving these games your respective yes or no votes. To me it justs seems like your listing random crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Author Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 That post right there put you in a massive debt. If you don't understand, read the first post of the thread. He said No to Ikaruga. He can be safely ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal Zero Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 He said No to Ikaruga.He can be safely ignored. Touche. 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drack Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 He said No to Ikaruga.He can be safely ignored. I was about to say the same thing. Quoted for major emphasis.Also, add descriptions/reasons to votes, or they are just made of fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antipode Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Elite Beat Agents - YES While it would have been better without all the shitty pop songs, it's a challenging and unique rhythm game that no one else has copied yet. Plus, it's hilarious. Rez - YES If there ever was a game that was unique though, it's Rez. The experience can't really be described, but it's a feeling you won't get from ANYTHING else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal Zero Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 The best part about every single comment about Rez sounds so much funnier when you think of the "secondary uses" of the trance vibrator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Author Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Rez gets a YES from me. I only played it once. I went to a friend's place, he wanted me to try it. I started playing, and he went in the living room to watch a move with his girlfriend. I ended up not seeing the move simply because I was sucked in the beauty of the game. Rez is probably the best example of a "perfect" gaming experience where the substance of the game did not detract from the gameplay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephfire Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Apparently, I have GOT to find a copy of Rez. To Thin Crust: I can't count any of those votes until they include at least a sentence or two (more, if possible) supporting your vote. Sorry, I know that's a long list to go back through, but everyone else had to do it and without reasoning to support your vote, I can't include them in the count. Also, to whoever asked a page or two ago, I'll be updating the main post sometime today. I've been doing it weekly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin Crust Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 OK, sorry. I'll find time to do at least some of the games later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziellink Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 The best part about every single comment about Rez sounds so much funnier when you think of the "secondary uses" of the trance vibrator. Wasen't it just for girlfriends, to...you know...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal Zero Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Wow man, don't sound so tentative about such matters. This is the internet. It's commonplace. But regardless, it might have been for female gamers, too, y'know. Regardless, it's a common joke about Rez that also happens to be a reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendarySword Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Taito Legends 2 (PS2)- Now... this game rocks for all the right reasons. Besides having 39 Taito games on a single disc, each game is emulated very well (thought not all are perfect, like the hyper weapon on Metal Black which you can't focus and unfocus at will). Games like Raystorm, Darius Gaiden, G-Darius, Elevator Action Returns, Space Invaders '95, and Metal Black are worth the $19.99 price of admission alone. Add in little seen (but quite fun) games like Arabian Magic, Dungeon Magic, Cleopatra's Fortune, Gun Frontier and others, and the package is made even sweeter. Like all compilations, there are some duds on this one, but the good far outweighs the bad. A Yes for sure. Whoa, they put RayStorm on there? Upon further researching, it seems the Xbox version was released in Europe with RayForce and supposedly this version works on the North American Xbox with no modification (No citation on the article, but they acknowledge PAL & NTSC. Can anyone back this up?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coop Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Upon further researching, it seems the Xbox version was released in Europe with RayForce and supposedly this version works on the North American Xbox with no modification (No citation on the article, but they acknowledge PAL & NTSC. Can anyone back this up?) Get the PC version. It has the same games as the XBox version, it runs just fine on US PCs, and here's the cool part... you can play the games in MAME (with dipswitch settings accessible). The PC version installs ROMs, and these ROMs play in MAME without any problems. All you have to do is zip up each folder, and drop the zip file into MAME's "roms" folder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephfire Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 I spoke incorrectly earlier: the update to the main post will not occur until tomorrow, right after I post Round Twenty-One. Also, 200 games and going strong! ****************************************************************************** ***ROUND TWENTY*** Street Fighter Alpha III Console: Dreamcast Publisher: Capcom Developer: Capcom Meta Score: 8.6 Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence Console: Playstation 2 Publisher: Konami Developer: Kojima Productions Meta Score: 9.3 We Love Katamari Console: Playstation 2 Publisher: Namco Developer: Namco Meta Score: 8.6 Dead or Alive 3 Console: Xbox Publisher: Tecmo Developer: Team NInja Meta Score: 8.6 Rallisport Challenge 2 Console: Xbox Publisher: Microsoft Game Studios Developer: Digital Illusions Meta Score: 8.9 Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door Console: Gamecube Publisher: Nintendo Developer: Intelligent Sys. Meta Score: 8.8 Trauma Center: Under the Knife Console: Nintendo DS Publisher: Atlus Co. Developer: Atlus Co. Meta Score: 8.0 Frequency Console: Playstation 2 Publisher: SCEA Developer: Harmonix Music Meta Score: 8.4 Megaman ZX Console: Nintendo DS Publisher: Capcom Developer: Inti Meta Score: 8.0 Sonic Rush Console: Nintendo DS Publisher: Sega Developer: Dimps Corporation Meta Score: 8.3 ****************************************************************************** My votes: Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence -- YES One of the greatest MGS games to date, plus MGS Online and a bunch of other bonus features? Count me in. The fact that the US servers have shut down online play already makes me cry, though. Just the same, the game was a must-have before this special edition. We Love Katamari --YES It's got everything Katamari Damacy had and more. This was one of the rare cases when almost everybody wanted a sequel with "more of the same." And we got it. Everyone with a PS2 should own one or both of these games. Dead or Alive 3 -- NO Don't get me wrong, I like this one, but if any of the DOA games qualify as must-haves, it's DOA Ultimate. Otherwise, there are plenty of other fighters out there, many of higher quality. If you seek bouncy female fighters, however, look no further. Frequency -- UNDECIDED It's darn fun and features a great soundtrack, but I don't know if it's accessible enough for everyone to enjoy. The learning curve is a tad steep, too. I recommend it, but I dunno if it's "must-have" enough. I'll play it more this week and try to decide for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pezman Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Apparently, I have GOT to find a copy of Rez. Fuck yeah you do. Based on my questions from a few pages back (on pg 29 I believe), can we change the title from "must-have" to something that's not so much hyperbole? Something like "OCR's Games to Play Before You Die." That way you don't have to have them, and you don't have to beat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintermute Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 I found it rather surprising that Zelda: Wind Waker is on the Majority No list. Besides being one of the funner Zelda games to just pick up and play at a given time, it also has a very attractive style once you get used to it and the gameplay (while somewhat easy) is top notch. In fact, it was such a fun experience to "watch" this game because of its attractive visuals that my mother, who isn't a gamer of any kind, started enjoying watching me play the game so much that we began to play it together as a collaborative experience. If that's not a great game, I don't know what is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watkinzez Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Note to anyone who might 'NO' We Love Katamari; the original never got a PAL release. Keep that in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephfire Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 Based on my questions from a few pages back (on pg 29 I believe), can we change the title from "must-have" to something that's not so much hyperbole? Something like "OCR's Games to Play Before You Die." That way you don't have to have them, and you don't have to beat them. No one will require you to own or beat the games on this list. I assumed this was understood. Perhaps I don't understand the changes you are suggesting? Either way, revising the thread in such a manner would mark the third (or fourth, I forget) rule revision this thread has seen, and seeing as how we're two hundred games into this process, it's a little late for yet another overhaul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 that name change sounds retarded keep the name the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pezman Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 It's just a matter of the title. As I mentioned before, "must have" seems a bit extreme to me. Perhaps I'm a minority of one here, but I feel something a little less... imperative might more accurately describe the list you're compiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 and as i mentioned that is a stupid name change keep the name the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 are you joking people arent going to say oh my god the internet says i MUST HAVE this game so i MUST GET it right now or i will die and if they do they need to get their brains squeezed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coop Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Street Fighter Alpha III (Dreamcast)- A lot of folks consider "Third Strike" to be the best Street Fighter game out there. But to me, "Alpha 3" holds that honor. A huge roster of every last fighter up to that point (over thirty), very nice and clean graphics, good animation, good music, endings for everyone, great gameplay balance, lots of fun modes to play the game in... this game's got a lot to it. A solid YES assuredly. Dead or Alive 3 (XBox)- The third entry in the bouncy DoA series, offers up a lot of what DoA 2 had, but spruced it up with some nicer graphics, bigger and more detailed arenas, more costumes, and a final boss that's hard on the eyes thanks to the blurring effect used during your fight with him (think major drug trip). Of course, the "Ultimate" version of DoA2 came along and out shown its sequel, but DoA3 still packs in the same fighting formula that the series is famous (infamous?) for, and offers up a fun gaming time. While the "Ultimate" DoA2 is really the bright spot of the series, DoA3 is still worth a Borderline YES as it stands in that game's shadow. Rallisport Challenge 2 (XBox)- Like Rally racing? Like lots of tracks, plenty of cars, gorgeous graphics, good sound effects, nasty courses that can be raced in the day or night, and the challenge of having cars that can be damaged? How about simply liking good racing games? If you answered yes to any of that, then get this game. Where RSC1 made for a really good Rally game with its graphics, physics, tracks and decent car selecting, RSC2 took everything and upped the ante by a healthy bit. Everything looks just a little nicer, the tracks are great to race on in sun/rain/dark of night/snow, the controls are spot on, your car still takes steady damage as you race (tire wear, body damage, performance loss for impacts, etc), the driver camera is a lot of fun with how it's set up, and the whole game is simply well made. This is a rally game that does a lot of things right, and one of the better rally games out there thanks to its blend of arcade-y and sim traits. A YES without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal Zero Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 We Love Katamari: YES Title says it all, people. DoA3: NO While the Dead or Alive franchise is known for it's bouncy female fighters, it never has stood as a particularly strong fighting game for me. This can be argued, as I do know the potential the game has, but for me, it's just about the physics, which doesn't warrant a YES. Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door: YES Amazing sense of style and presentation with a great amount of humor to boot. This is not a game to pass up if you like the tied and true elements of an RPG with some substantial "paper" and "Mario" twists to them. Trauma Center: Under the Knife: YES Fast paced fun that really lets the DS show off what a good game can do. The game itself isn't really too challenging, but it is an extremely good time to be had. Frequency: NO Get your FreQ on! An awesome soundtrack with stupendous gameplay. However, the learning curve is far too steep at higher level play for the general gamer. I still find this game somewhat challenging after playing it for so long, but it is so much fun. It's not a must have for everyone, but if you're into the whole rhythm game genre, this is a perfect game for you along with it's sequel: Amplitude. Megaman ZX: NO It was a fun game that stayed the course with the oh so standard Megaman formula. It did add it's own twist to the system of course as all sequels should. Boss battles were not difficult by any means until you decided to get perfect ratings on them, which, counter-intuitively, involved NOT shooting the boss' most susceptible area in order to not damage his core. I'm just saying it got annoying to accidentally hit it just once so you'd have to either restart or just stand there and take it so you could die and try again. Not for anyone who doesn't like Megaman and needs a fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Wilhelm Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Street Fighter Alpha 3 - YES Any red-blooded SF fan cannot deny how good this installment is. Arguments always arise to which is better, Alpha 3 or Third Strike. While personally I prefer Third Strike that doesn't mean I'm never down for a match or two (or three, four, etc.) of Alpha 3. Not only does it have an all-star cast of SF veterans it has a great soundtrack to duke it out too, nice looking backgrounds and fighters, and of course it has solid gameplay with a few different modes to play in. A great game for anyone's shelf. We Love Katamari - YES Ok, so you roll around a highly adhesive ball, collecting junk, food, plantlife, etc. to create stars, it's so very charming, seriously. Straightforward concept and simple control schemes make We Love Katamari accesible to wide range of gamers (and maybe even non-gamers) alike. Be warned, many songs in this game are very infectious and may leave you humming for hours. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door - YES Not much to say here, a simple, delightful RPG with no complicated battle/skill systems that usually turn most off of the genre. Charming story, and hilarious dialogue throughout even make it a pleasure to watch the cutscenes. "Our play was called the Mystery of the Firey Hat of Social Awareness." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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