Sign in to follow this  
kamoh

I'm (pretty much) done here...

Recommended Posts

Too much of one thing and you're never gonna kepe the momentum up, Coop speaks the truth.

Thats like expecting everyone to make a "This is whatever month" sig every month. Only a commited few would be bothered. It does make me wonder how the DoD is still going though, althouth that has a huge following.

DoD has 10 competitions, two of which go for two months instead of the requisite one. Maybe THAT'S what we really need to do - extend the deadlines for July, August, December, and January.

This helps put things into perspective... It's true: I don't enter my regular competitions like FAC every month (although I still have a serious interest) and I took a break from the fighting game tournament (and am slightly losing interest in that even now). The fact that they run every month is nice but I don't obligate myself to join every month because either I can't or don't want to. In fact sometimes the competitions are outright boring when you're against the same set of people, or the same people win every month. That's why fresh folk are nice to have around here.

I wonder if putting competitions into 2-month or even 3-month cycles would work better? Maybe a 1-month break between competitions would be good, or maybe just randomly starting up competitions at different times. Although, that last one I feel would be best served as a last resort.

You're right, usually we'd be sending kamoh off with a "hey, screw off if you don't like it" but this is something we can all sympathize with, because this section of the forum--these competitions--they're founded upon the hard work we all do to keep them alive. It's a pain in the ass that they've become neglected when some of us put in 100%, or can even be bothered to put in any of our free time whether it's the tiniest bit or not. In the General forum, people seemed to have fun watching the competitions. I remember watching the FAC each month before I started entering my own works. I remember other people who didn't or couldn't contribute talking in the thread (even myself) complimenting people on their hard work, giving them critiques on their works in progress, and things like that. I wish I could keep sharing the joy of active participation with everyone, but being in the Competitions forum makes it hard to share that work when honestly most of what I see in some of these threads is "wow I had no idea this forum even existed" or "oh so this is where the competitions moved to." Contributions for the FAC seriously dropped from like a rock bottom of 10 or more entries a month with a diverse variety of people each month, to the same people contributing 6-8 entries tops. You can just guess when this change started happening.

-Nick

I want to remind everyone that the forum was LOOOOOONG time coming. My first reaction WAS what happened - that everything would drop off - but after a while I believed that this separate forum could be a good thing...I was informed of the impending change sometime in September 2005 by GrayLightning. It came a good 16 months later.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I wonder if putting competitions into 2-month or even 3-month cycles would work better? Maybe a 1-month break between competitions would be good, or maybe just randomly starting up competitions at different times. Although, that last one I feel would be best served as a last resort.

That's what we do at the Writing Competition Thread, and it seems to work out. Granted, the number of submissions has still been trailing off since I joined, but that started happening before the move to a new forum. Actually, the interest seems to have picked up in the last couple of rounds, even though several people missed the submission deadline.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We played a lot of chess for a year or so. Now we maybe all need a bit of a break. Every few months would be good. I still love chess and hope to hang and chess with you lot again one day. Lately, though, I've had too much going on. And in two weeks I'm gone to the other side of the world for at least a year.

No point forcing it. We all appreciate the effort you put in Kamoh. I've still got you all on my chess list on aim. I'll be in touch. I know I'll play you all again at some point.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've mulled over the idea of moving current competitions back to General in order to increase viewership. For selfish reasons, of course, as one is potentially related to my project.

But the move underscores how many think stuff posted in Comps loses attention. When current compos complete, they will be moved back to Competitions as more of an archive. I haven't run this past anybody, so it's more of an impulse thing, and we'll see how it goes after I discuss things more with TO & Douli.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That seems like an equitable solution. Project threads get General spotlights, so it makes sense for compos to get them too.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
lol I stop looking at the thread for a day and something happens!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connect6

I've been playing a LOT of that on www.littlegolem.net

There's this one polish guy who's totally dicking me around - I'm 5-15 so far and he's accounted for 7 of those losses.

Too much math, too few hadoukens. Worst tournament game ever [/sarcasm]. Is that what you were playing when I was talking to you the other day?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Too much math, too few hadoukens. Worst tournament game ever [/sarcasm]. Is that what you were playing when I was talking to you the other day?

Yeah I think so...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I've mulled over the idea of moving current competitions back to General in order to increase viewership. For selfish reasons, of course, as one is potentially related to my project.

But the move underscores how many think stuff posted in Comps loses attention. When current compos complete, they will be moved back to Competitions as more of an archive. I haven't run this past anybody, so it's more of an impulse thing, and we'll see how it goes after I discuss things more with TO & Douli.

After djp thought about it, he's moved the Competitions forum under Workspace where it's not merely a sublisting and should remain visible. The arrangement will be kept like this, but hopefully this solves some of the visibility problems caused when this was a subforum under Community.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
After djp thought about it, he's moved the Competitions forum under Workspace where it's not merely a sublisting and should remain visible. The arrangement will be kept like this, but hopefully this solves some of the visibility problems caused when this was a subforum under Community.

As long as we can keep current competitions on the GenDisc forum, this isn't an issue - I don't care where the repository ends up.

However, if this is where current competitions must go, then it's over and done here...if DJP thinks that visibility will be better as a Workspace forum he's out of his mind - it's now INVISIBLE to the casual forumgoer.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As long as we can keep current competitions on the GenDisc forum, this isn't an issue - I don't care where the repository ends up.

However, if this is where current competitions must go, then it's over and done here...if DJP thinks that visibility will be better as a Workspace forum he's out of his mind - it's now INVISIBLE to the casual forumgoer.

I don't think this forum is even designed for the casual forumgoers any moreso than the ReMixing forum is. Like that forum, this one is designed for a more specific purpose. After doing the move myself over the last few weeks and seeing the results, I don't think lack of visibility is the biggest negative, in that a lot more has to be done to make sure concepts thrive than just having it in the Community forum.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm kind of glad we're not being mixed in with the community board anymore. It just makes things harder to find, and nobody really paid any more attention to the competitions anyway.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

counter productive

COUNTER PRODUCTIVE

Is there any way we can keep it so that new competition threads are first created in General then later moved here? Like, have a new compo in general for about two weeks to give it some views by those that don't visit the other sub forums, then move it here to finish it. Having this sub be the new place is worse than have this being a subforum of general.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
counter productive

COUNTER PRODUCTIVE

Is there any way we can keep it so that new competition threads are first created in General then later moved here? Like, have a new compo in general for about two weeks to give it some views by those that don't visit the other sub forums, then move it here to finish it. Having this sub be the new place is worse than have this being a subforum of general.

Well I'm under the impression that competitions will stay in Community until they end.

Larry, btw, competitions really need the casual visitor a LOT more than the ReMixing boards do - we have no other rallying point as a community.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So, I'm confused. Are current comps going to be placed in Community or aren't they? If they are, whom do I contact to move them there? Alternately, if said person happens to see this post, the September Writing Competition just started, so could you please move it to Community?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i thought the previous arrangement of allowing active compos in GD was a great idea, and a fair compromise.

I don't think lack of visibility is the biggest negative, in that a lot more has to be done to make sure concepts thrive than just having it in the Community forum.

could you elaborate on this point?

cheers.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Beyond just making a competition, it has to be a good enough idea that it'll attract people and subsequently continue to attract people.

For now, everything active will stay in the Competitions area. I've got no problem with putting stuff in General, as it was my idea, but the buck stops with djpretzel. I'd PM him and explain your reasoning behind why you'd prefer current compo threads in the Community area.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm just putting in my two cents about the OCRCL. I honestly stopped playing hoping it would encourage more people to play. I just kept stomping people that eventually I had players simply forfeit/give up/give me the win for free when I asked for a game. From my point of view, I was crushing the community.

Now I haven't been lurking regularly but I've been coming here for 6+ years, and I signed up for the forums 5 years ago and immediately lurked. It wasn't until last year that I felt a part of the community, even if I lurked more than posted, what with actually competing in the long dead Speedrun competition (I was Dark_shadow5 if any of you recall the OCRVSC). Heck, I still have the old Geocities page bookmarked. But thats not my point.

My point is that because of you Kamoh, I actually felt a part of the OCR forum community and not another extremely avid OCR music fan.

I'm not asking you to stay, but for what it's worth, Thanks.

-Keegs

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this