Raziellink Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 ********** Round 1 *********** Mario Kart Super Circuit: No A fun game, with some awesome graphics for it's time. The songs are pretty good, real MK style, but the quality could have certainly been better. Especially when it's compared to a game like Golden Sun. Sadly, it felt unbalanced, the driving felt more like gliding, and compared to what other iterations in the MK franchise came up with, this one just falls short. Just one? You sure how to pick the lists! XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal Zero Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Banjo-Kazooie - Yes! It's a fun and quirky game that really fits the "all ages" demographic. The gameplay was solid and innovative. Definitely a must-have. Ogre Battle 64 - Yes. The story was involving, the gameplay was simple yet the strategy intense. It looked good. It felt good. It was great. Mega Man X4 - YES. The last good game of a once-great series. The option to pick Zero as your main character was new and refreshing. He also handled solidly even though you quickly realized it was like putting the game on a harder setting instead of playing a completely new game. The story was actually done well for both main characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shikigami Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 i dont think any of these games achieve "must have" status Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_NutS Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Megaman X4: YES Ranks as one of the best megaman X games ever made. Though I prefer the SNES counterparts. Everything else after it in the series, with only one exception, is crap, no matter how much megaman fanboys want them not to suck. Legend of Mana: NO As an RPG and as a sequel to one of the best action rpg's out there, it fell flat on most aspects. I'd take any of the games before it any day. As for all the other games, they were good but not enough for a must have status. Others have sequels that were much better (system shock, commander keen..) And some others I haven't played, like planetscape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
case Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 i dont think any of these games achieve "must have" status I'm pretty sure FF7/8 are a must-have for any RPG player at the least... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecilff2 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 We aren't voting on FF7 yet. Anyways Banjo Kazooie: Yes An excellent platformer that I wish I still had. I don't remember the ending very well anymore, except for the odd game show like thing you play with the witch. Awesome game though and quite challenging. Commander Keen I: No Although it really is a fun game, I don't see it as being a must-have game. I tended to like Duke Nukem better for platformers. Also, is that System Shock 1 or 2 you have up there for voting? I don't remember seeing 1 up for nomination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephfire Posted October 2, 2007 Author Share Posted October 2, 2007 Hopefully more people will find something to vote on this round. ********* Round Two: ********* Diddy Kong Racing Console: Nintendo 64 Publisher: Nintendo Developer: Rare Ltd. Released: Nov 24, 1997 Star Wars: Rogue Squadron Console: Nintendo 64 Publisher: Nintendo Developer: LucasArts Released: Nov 17, 1998 Castlevania Chronicles Console: Playstation Publisher: Konami Developer: Konami Released: Oct 8, 2001 Ridge Racer Console: Playstation Publisher: Namco Developer: Namco Released: Sept 9, 1995 Battle Garegga * Console: Saturn Publisher: Electronic Arts Developer: Eighting/Raizing Released: 1996 NiGHTS Into Dreams Console: Saturn Publisher: Sega Developer: Sonic Team Released: Aug 31, 1996 Civilization IV Console: PC Publisher: 2K Games Developer: Firaxis Games Released: Oct 25, 2005 Eve Online Console: PC Publisher: Simon & Schuster Developer: CCP Released: May 6, 2003 Space Quest I: The Sarien Encounter Console: PC Publisher: Sierra Entertainment Developer: Sierra Entertainment Released: 1991 Advance Wars Console: GBA Publisher: Nintendo Developer: Intelligent Systems Released: Sept 9, 2001 ************************************************* Diddy Kong Racing -- NO (borderline) Don't get me wrong, it was a fun game. The free-driving "lobby" to drive around between races was pretty fun and it's funny seeing rough draft versions of RARE's characters who later turned out to be quite different (Conker and Banjo, in particular). The racing was fun too. The standard battle mode was a bit lackluster, although the egg retrieval levels could get frantically fun with 4 people. It was a fun game, just not quite at Must-Have status. It didn't help that Mario Kart 64 was the closest game to compare it to. Star Wars: Rogue Squadron -- undecided Still deciding on this one. Will vote later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfold Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I've got nothing this time around, since I've never played these games. I'd want to give a vote for Advance Wars, but seeing as how I only played the DS game that'd kinda defeat the purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzumebachi Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Civilization IV - NO Civilization IV was barely anything more than Civ3 with better graphics. And even so the graphics weren't all that great. It also got really boring, really fast. Hell, Rise of Nations was at least a little more replayable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_NutS Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 ********* Round Two: ********* Diddy Kong Racing definitive YES Shame on you seph, SHAME ON YOU. This games obliterates mario kart in every respect. The drivers were more balanced, The weapons although not as colorful were all more usable, the zip system really shined, and not to mention you could pick between 3 types of vehicles. Also the difficulty was much higher than in mario kart. One of the most memorable moments I have in n64 gaming was going a whole afternoon agains wizpig trying to beat him on the most difficult setting, and also winnning agains the ghost clock. This is a game for people who enjoy persevering and mastering their games, and also for those who want to have a great time with friends. Totally a must have in my list. Star Wars: Rogue Squadron - Borderline YES Before this game I didn't think that Starfox 64 could be bested by other franchise but Rogue Squadron had great graphics, amazing sound and interesting and entertaining missions. Although I'd rate the GC's Rogue Squadron higher, and a true must have, this one is no less than an excellent game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziellink Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Star Wars: Rogue Squadron: Yes. Tough call. It should be picked up by ANY Star Wars fan out there, but must-have? The missions are cool, diverse and exciting (chase that, protect this, disable another). The graphics are pretty nice (the expansion pack takes care of A LOT of problems; framerate, draw distance, textures). And the story that was told was interesting. However, the missions aren't always clear, and they are quite mindless most of the time. (Shoot shoot shoot). However, all in all, it makes for a great game. Dare i say it? The force is strong with....ah, never mind. Advance Wars: YEAH Oh man, how addictive was THIS game? Simply put together, but o so deep when played. Some missions suffer too much from trial and error mistakes, but the game is satisfying to the very end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirChadlyOC Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Round Two - FIGHT!! Diddy Kong Racing N64 - No(borderline) In my life, I have noticed that there are (at least) two types of hardcore video game players. One of them is the kind who buys a few games and plays the crap out of all of them, despite numerous flaws, and finds all the secrets and unlocks all extras. The second type of player tries to experience every single great game, but then never or rarely plays the game again, even sometimes trading the game in. I believe that the reason for this list is to assist the second type of gamer who feels he or she may have missed some gems in the past. Those hardcore gamers who belong to the second category will not like Diddy Kong Racing. The game is very challenging if you let it grow on you, but most collector-type gamers will not see the point and will give up, because after all, Killer 7 and numerous other great games are still sitting on the shelf unplayed, and the gamer has to see how great they are too so they can check them off their mental list. I'm sorry for being long-winded in such an inappropriate venue, but Diddy Kong Racing is either loved or hated, and before spending time/money on it, decide what time of gamer your are beforehand. Advance Wars GBA - YES I think the first one is worth owning and the DS version is worth owning, but feel free to skip the second one, "Black Hole Rising," unless you love the others. This game does a very good job of introducing new, interesting challenges to the player without relying too much on the same general tactics to win, which is the hardest task for turn-based strategy games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moseph Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Diddy Kong Racing NO -- Enjoyable, but not a must-have. The exploration/adventure elements are somewhat creative, but the basic racing action is inferior to Mario Kart 64 -- the control is just too clunky. (And no, the multiple vehicles don't make up for this -- you can choose a clunky go-kart, a clunky hovercraft, or a clunky airplane. Whereas in Mario Kart you get a go-kart that handles quite fluidly. Why would you want anything else?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coop Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Castlevania Chronicles- A long overdue port of the little seen outside Japan X68000 Sharp game, Akumajō Dracula. It plays like the older games in the series, but looks like a 16-bit entry (because the X68000 Sharp was a 16-bit computer). The graphics are quite nice, and when you play in the original mode, you can select from three different setups for the original game's midi soundtrack (which is quite good). Cool bosses and stages, good control, and a solid challenge with a much better sense of difficulty balance over the original game. It's a hidden gem in the Castlevania family tree, and shouldn't be passed up. YES. Ridge Racer- I've been a fan of the RR series. Rage Racer quite fun, with a good sense of speed and nice PS1 graphics for the time, but the series as a whole was just never all that engrossing. Nice graphics and such for the most part, but the gameplay's never been to my liking. The way it handles sliding through turns just doesn't feel as intuitive as titles like Sega Rally and Daytona USA, and the game is painfully low in its track count. It's not a horrid game by any means, but its parts just don't add up to making it a 'must have' title. NO. Battle Garegga *- Shmups. Japan loves them, but most US companies couldn't care less about them. However, this import Saturn title isn't one that US gamers should pretend doesn't exist. Made by the well known companies 8ing/Raizing, Battle Garegga is best described as a "manic" shmup. Lots of bullets (but not "Bullet Hell" levels), falling medals to be collected for score, power-ups that fall off the screen... it's a hectic game to play through... but what a game it is. Very nice graphics, good tunes, a rank system that keeps the game from ever being a walk through, multiple planes to choose from (including hidden ones), and a nice graphical style that's done using more realistic colors (not bright day-glo ones like many other shmups use). If you like shmups, and you're fond of vertical shmups especially, this game is a must. YES. NiGHTS Into Dreams- Overshadowed by Mario 64, and ignored by a lot of gamers at first, this game is a short, but oh so sweet masterpiece of gaming. A great graphical style and sense of flight, good music, an almost surreal story, fun yet challenging boss battles... it's no wonder this game has since appeared on many "top" lists. The goals and controls are so simple, but they're done so well. This is a game that's not easy to give a real impression of, as it's something that needs to be played to be truly appreciated. A YES without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskyFerret Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Ok just to make this even more difficult Diddy Kong Racing YES (borderline) Sir Chadly has got valid points for voting against this game and pretty much hit the nail on the head. But as this competition is for a must-have game not just a love/hate thing we can't really base it's rating on what type of gamer you are. Diddy-Kong racing's steering was a bit more annoying than that of MK 64, but at least it was different with adventure mode, hovercraft, plane etc. And let's face it, can your N64 collection really be complete without DiddyKong racing. It was fun and annoying at times, but it was a game that grows on you and to have a version spawned for the DS has to say something about how people must have this game.. And for an easier vote: Advance Wars YES As far as strategy games go, this one is right up there. Gameplay is similar to that of Fire Emblem except its got tanks!!!11! Tanks are fun. Great characters, story was fun and can even be enjoyed by those that usually dislike the strategy genre. The beginning of a great series. Oh, and you can't forget the AWESOME MUSIC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watkinzez Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Diddy Kong Racing- YES Better than MK64, for truth- you all know it. Weapons that rely not on luck, but skill. A single player mode that has some semblance of progress. Planes. A totally awesome Dave Wise soundtrack. I'd recommend Chadly's second 'hardcore' gamer to play less, appreciate more. Should something like Fallout 2 not be recognised because some people bite off more than they can chew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsx100 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 For some reason I completely missed this thread this time around, well up until know that is. I haven't played any of the games up until know so I can't vote on them. Here is a few of late nominees though. I just posted some I don't remeber seeing already. PC: Rise of Nations Age of Mythology Quake 3 Arena Half-life Unreal Tournament 2004 N64: Zelda Majora's Mask PS: Crash, Crash 2, Crash Warped Tekken 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiremanJoe Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Advance Wars YES The beginning of a great series. I think you mean a great instalment to a good series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecilff2 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Diddy Kong Racing - YES The racers are actually balanced differently in this one. Bumper(the badger) has great handling, though I tend to like the rooster guy for racing for his speed and acceleration(until I got TT) The upgradeable weapons/boosts/assists are cool and the levels are quite varied. Plus one of the number one reasons is "NO CHEAP COME FROM BEHIND CPU'S/SUPER ATTACKS". Rogue Squadron - Borderline YES Fun game but you don't tend to replay it too often, unless you're messing around (Using the Y-Wing to bomb Coruscant, then wonder who these people that run up to the nearby hill are.) or going for medals. Though I actually liked this one better than Rogue Leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devyn Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 N64 - Conker's Bad Fur Day. YES (Can I still vote for this?) It was a totally revolutionary game. Solid, varied gameplay - Shooting, platforming, flying, puzzle - it has it all. Awesome humor, especially in Conker's smart-ass dialog "Isn't it a little bit early in the morning to be talking about gothic architecture?" It also has a sweet third person shooter 4-player mode with a variety of weapons and modes (capture the flag, death match) Good cut-scenes, graphics, animation too. It's a great game almost completely based off of humor and it works - that's extremely rare for a game. It definitely deserves a place in the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzumebachi Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 i am bored, so here, have some nominations: PC Wing Commander (1990) Crystal Caves (1991) Commander Keen in Goodbye Galaxy! (1991) Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure (1992) X-COM: UFO Defense (1993) Rise of the Triad (1994) Cyberia (1994) Crusader: No Remorse (1995) Big Red Racing (1995) Star Wars: Dark Forces (1995) MechWarrior 2: Mercenaries (1996) Quake (1996) Interstate '76 (1997) Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II (1997) Star Trek: Starfleet Academy (1997) Jazz Jackrabbit 2 (1998) SNES Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecilff2 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 SNES Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III Gradius III QFE plus ten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 nominating tales games, mainly: Tales of Symphonia Tales of Destiny Also, nominating my favorite game of all time, Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals.' EDIT: Ooops, didn't notice that we are taking it back, yet not too back, if you get what I mean. Scratch lufia 2 and tales of symphonia since the cube already had it's turn and we aren't on the snes yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephfire Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 Just letting everyone know that I posted the complete list of nominees in the main post (minus the one's we've already started voting on). The next round will be posted for voting in a few minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephfire Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 I'm beginning to realize how few games I actually played back in the day. Shame on me. ************ Round Three: ************ Conker’s Bad Fur Day Console: N64 Publisher: Rare Ltd. Developer: Rare Ltd. Release: Mar 4, 2001 Wave Race 64 Console: N64 Publisher: Nintendo Developer: Nintendo Release: Nov 1, 1996 Colony Wars Console: Playstation Publisher: Psygnosis Developer: SCEE Release: Oct 31, 1997 The Legend of Dragoon Console: Playstation Publisher: SCEA Developer: SCEI Release: Jun 11, 2000 Darius Gaiden Console: Saturn Publisher: Acclaim Developer: Taito Corporation Release: 1996 Shining Force III Console: Saturn Publisher: Sega Developer: Camelot Co. Ltd. Release: May 31, 1998 Age of Empires Console: PC Publisher: Microsoft Game Studios Developer: Ensemble Studios Release: Oct 26, 1997 Call of Duty Console: PC Publisher: Activision Developer: Infinity Ward Release: Oct 29, 2003 Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind Console: PC Publisher: Bethesda Softworks Developer: Bethesda Softworks Release: May 2, 2002 Fire Emblem Console: GBA Publisher: Nintendo Developer: Intelligent Systems Release: Nov 3, 2003 ********************************* My vote: Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind -- YES Having played the Xbox port and seen the PC version, I feel qualified to vote on this. All the great open-world gameplay we love Elder Scrolls for plus patches and mods? Sign me up. The world may be a bit more drab then Oblivion's, but it's still huge. Great, great game. Also, I'll be keeping the vote progress updated at the top of the main post, so keep an eye out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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