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Trenches Original Soundtrack [OCRO-0002] Trenches developed by Thunder Game Works (http://thundergameworks.com) for the iPhone Track 1 composed and produced by Troy Keyn, additional orchestration by Kenneth Keyn (a.k.a. Abadoss) Tracks 2-9 composed and produced by Kenneth Keyn, additional instrumentation and performance by Troy Keyn Contact: abadoss@yahoo.com Composer's comments: Trenches brings together music reminiscent of the European nationalist composers - prevalent in the years leading up to World War I - with electric guitars and modern percussion. My brother, Troy Keyn, was initially approached about composing the soundtrack on Trenches on his own. Troy decided to bring me into the project because of my experience with orchestration and because it would be an incredible opportunity for me in my career pursuits. Michael Taylor, CEO of Thunder Game Works, charged us with the task of creating a soundtrack that would enhance the game, without sacrificing substantial and meaningful composition. I am responsible for the primary composition and orchestration on all tracks, except "Awaiting Orders" - which Troy composed - and "Promotion" - which is just a drumroll. Troy recorded the percussion and guitars and is responsible for the final sound production. I used Finale 2009 to compose each track and Garritan Personal Orchestra and Finale's built-in MIDI SoftSynth for the orchestral samples. Troy used Sonar for recording and final production. "Awaiting Orders" -- Troy wanted to compose at least one piece on the soundtrack and chose to do the menu/title music. There are a couple versions of this track that Troy tried out - one sounding very much like something out of Pirates of the Caribbean. In the end, this version won out. I made a few orchestration changes to give it fuller sound, but this is ultimately Troy's track. "Have at Thee!" -- This little intro plays every time you start a new game. The difficulty in writing this fanfare was avoiding anything cheesy or cliché. In addition, it's a fanfare of war, so I had to consider what might be heard on a battlefield and embellish it a bit. I decided to get in as much dissonance as I could to represent the cacophony of war. On the technical side, I had to process the track with Finale's MIDI SoftSynth, as Garritan was unable to adequately perform the quick articulations I had written. "The Engine of War" -- This track took the longest time to develop out of all the tracks. I started out by first figuring out the main theme - roughly at 0:43. After that, I simply composed a ton of different sections that could be dropped or picked up and developed into the final track. The main trick was finding a balance between the repetitive nature of looping a track and wanting to have a recognizable theme. "Dead of Night" -- Michael wanted the losing music to clearly let the player know they were in trouble. Troy and I decided that something dark and more frantic would be the best choice. I borrowed a section from the second movement of my first symphony as the basis for this piece. While I was reluctant to use it, the section worked too well to ignore it. "Der Scharfschütze" -- I wanted this track to be as dark and heavy as I could get it to reflect utter defeat. I felt an organ would be best suited for the task. Just for fun, I wrote the organ part in the style of Johann Sebastian Bach to represent the Germans winning. "Battle at Dawn" and "Victory at Dawn" -- Both pieces are based on the first and last sections - respectively - from a piece I wrote in October 2005, also called "Victory at Dawn", for the Thematic Original Music Competition. I played this piece for Michael, as a possibility for the winning and victorious music, uncertain if it would be a good idea since I wrote it with cavalry in mind at the time. He thought it was a perfect fit, so it's in the game. "Iron Crosses" -- The credits proved challenging for me, as I only had 0:50 to work with - which I found out after I'd worked on a full version. Michael liked what I'd written, but it needed to be cut down significantly. After a number of edits, I was still barely too long. Troy had to find a spot where it wasn't jarring to cross-fade between two sections and make the cut before it came down below 0:50. "Achievement" -- This track was surprisingly difficult for something so short. Michael wanted this fanfare to be simple and to avoid cluttering up the soundscape. I tried various number of horns, different chords, all sorts of different articulations, and rhythms before landing on the current version through a lot of trial and error. As with "Have at Thee!", this track was processed in Finale's MIDI SoftSynth. In this case, the trumpet samples just sounded better for some reason. "Promotion" -- Yup. It's a drumroll. My thanks to: My brother, Troy Keyn, for giving me this opportunity and working with me on this project. Michael Taylor, for putting together a fantastic game and believing in us. Jennifer Cameron and Jim Day, for helping me find the tools and confidence that made this possible. Larry "Liontamer" Oji, for encouraging me to release this as an EP and for putting up with my delays. David "djpretzel" Lloyd, for creating and maintaining a community that I am proud to belong to. zircon, bLiNd, DarkeSword, Mazedude, OA, Level 99, audio fidelity, and Josh Whelchel for even considering the crazy request that I made of you, let alone actually attempting to pull it off. You guys are awesome, fantastic people. And everyone at OverClocked ReMix, for being damn cool... P.S. - I do accept commissions. Kenneth Edward Keyn abadoss@yahoo.com http://abadoss.net Thunder Game Works: http://thundergameworks.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Thunder-Game-Works/100686873319234 http://twitter.com/thundergamewrks
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Yeah, it's happened before, a game rip not existing. The few cases of it that have happened, the submitter ripped the track themselves and just hosted or attached it without having to be prompted. If they didn't already do that, we just email them as ask. As zircon just mentioned to me in #judges, "If we don't have access to the source, we can't judge it, so, it then becomes remixer's responsibility to provide the source". djp also added, "The policy is also case-by-case for rejecting games due to extreme obscurity/"indie"-ness." So if the game is just someone's Newgrounds game with original music, but the game isn't mega-popular, then we'd pass on it. I supposed we can add a sentence to the guidelines on that, but I honestly can't say I've seen the need in 6 years of being a panel member. The worst case scenario is just that the submitter can't find the original audio and we have to do the legwork. We've yet to have something submitted from something that absolutely can't be tracked down.
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Already planned. It'll be between the "previous" and "next" links on the writeup pages. Perhaps we need to have it in more places than that.
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Birthday mix! I wonder who did dat?
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When are you going to learn how to spell sephfire? Please be More Ashamed of Self for a few moments. Congrats to Dan on the excellent news, which I'll be plugging in full force tomorrow after I get some sleep!
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Happy Birthday djpretzel, nonsensicalexis
Liontamer replied to DarkeSword's topic in General Discussion
Never heard of 'em! -
finished Pokémon R/S/E Dive theme ReMix
Liontamer replied to AlmightyArceus's topic in Post Your Game ReMixes!
This one's now flagged for Mod Review. -
Which thread?
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OCR02071 - Final Fantasy IV "Everclear Hangover IV"
Liontamer replied to djpretzel's topic in ReMix Reviews & Comments
Nah, no it's not. -
OCR02071 - Final Fantasy IV "Everclear Hangover IV"
Liontamer replied to djpretzel's topic in ReMix Reviews & Comments
The hate. It's coming. -
Ha! I was about to say...
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YouTube no longer uses a 5-star rating system, they use Like/Dislike. That said, we originally disallowed ratings on all videos. In hindsight, it was a complete mistake and ignorant of how YouTube works. I re-enabled them because YouTube's sharing and searchability is primarily based on people "Liking" videos. Disabling the ability to do that drastically decreased the ability of the songs to spread around and reach more people. Also, anyone could go to our YT channel and sort by most viewed or top rated, which can't be disabled, otherwise we would. Whatever's most viewed or top rated on our YouTube channel is more a result of nostalgia bias & our subscriber base at the time the vid was uploaded rather than anything objective, so ultimately we chose to live with it, realizing those sorting methods don't actually reflect what's "best".
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That's not objective, that's still very subjective. There's always bias toward game, genre, composer, how recent or old the mix is, just a bunch of things that wouldn't make any top 10/100/1000 list worth anything. The only real benefit is a discussion starter and something that would be shared & debated, but and that's at the expense of other ReMixers & ReMixes that wouldn't be on such a list.
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OCR02070 - Mega Man 2 "Dokuta Wairi, Rival to the Light"
Liontamer replied to djpretzel's topic in ReMix Reviews & Comments
I didn't remember it was from DoD, but it's a revision from the DoD version regardless, and not the same one. -
OCRA-0017 - Donkey Kong Country 2: Serious Monkey Business
Liontamer replied to Bahamut's topic in Album Reviews & Comments
Yeah, you're weird. That's not accurate at all. Oh wait, you're right. It's totally depressing hearing "HEY, it's the party song. Party's over here. C'MON!" -
Some questions about the submission guidelines
Liontamer replied to GSO's topic in General Discussion
I can only answer the first part, but, no, that source tune would be outside what we could accept. It has to be music created for the medium of a game. -
Apparently, he says/thinks that to himself in a dream at the end of EarthBound. He just didn't speak or have his thoughts presented for most of EarthBound. He's talked in the Smash series, so he's not entirely mute throughout his character history. So there's no reason there shouldn't at least be something in the way of a quote. If it's a matter of using a legitimate quote or attempting to make a sentence "true" through omission, go with the former.
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STYLE CHANGES http://ocremix.org/info/Kefka_Palazzo Move the quote up top and make it it's own italicized section header, i.e. == ''"QUOTATION STUFF"'' == Quotes look silly having their own section, plus it's cooler to have them up top, makeing it more compelling to read the subsequent bios. Also, for all first mentions of the character name in the article, please bold the name, i.e. '''Kefka Palazzo''' Thanks to anyone who can help! I think these are small but important revisions. To keep easy track of this, work alphabetically. I've done N-Z.
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Haha, that's a reach. But I will be trying to holler at Tycho about Phantasy Star Online music at PAX this year if I get the chance. He's got good taste.
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Megaupload?
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The first part about the filesize limit is right. The second part about why we don't host FLACs for individual ReMixes is not. We're down with hosting FLACs of ReMixes, though until bandwidth is cheaper, we'd probably just keep it torrent-based, not available individually, like we do with our album FLACs. But in 5 years, improvements in technology could make FLACs a drop in the hat. That said, I'm totally fine with gathering FLACs of OC ReMixes, and we can make that official. Letter coming soon to all ReMixers...
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In the meantime, could someone make placeholder pages for the new additions? Pololo?
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Could I get you to redo that with a ReMix with my updated tagging layout? It might not be dramatically different (especially since OCR02001 uses mostly the same stuff). But I can send you some.
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OCR01807 - Chrono Trigger "Close Door All Way"
Liontamer replied to djpretzel's topic in ReMix Reviews & Comments
Also thought I posted here too. Super strong stuff, per Star's usual. He's great at pulling off those grandiose soundscapes.