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I really wish people would READ THE HANDS ON IMPRESSIONS that I linked. There's so much new stuff in L4D2. It's not an expansion, it's a sequel. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/06/01/left-4-dead-2-exclusive-rps-preview/

Prior to the institution of the Rule of Two, the Sith went through an era where they modeled themselves as a dark reflection of the Jedi Order. It makes sense that they'd all dress the same; the Jedi were not known for individualistic fashion. If all the Jedi had their hoods up, they'd all look like clones too. There's nothing to really suggest that the Sith are clones. The Clone Army is really a Clone Wars plot point more than anything else, and this game takes place about 3700 years before the movies. Plus this is an MMO where you'll be able to play as a Sith. If they're all clones, well then what's the point of character customization? xD Don't read too much into the design of the dropships.

"Aw man, if I'd have known that Valve was going to release Left4Dead 2 this Fall, I never would have bought Left4Dead and had a load of fun playing a co-op zombie shooter with my friends this past year. I guess all that fun I had was a total waste of my time and money!" How does Left4Dead 2 make Left4Dead obsolete? You can still play it and it still looks great. It's still fun. Just because the sequel comes out, nobody's going to play L4D anymore? People still play TFC. People still play Quake III. People will still play L4D. In droves. I'd also like to point out that while people keep citing TF2 as the free support model Valve should be following, TF2 is probably the ONLY game that Valve gives free updates for. Where is the official free Portal content update? What about Half-Life 2? Episode 1 wasn't much more than extra areas and some new enemies. Same with Episode 2. Why didn't they give that to us for free as a Half-Life 2 expansion pack? Is it just the time? Is it because it's coming out so soon? Aren't these the same people that complain about Valve taking forever to come out with new stuff? So now Valve gets a sequel to a very popular game out in about a year, and people are complaining? Honestly, there's no pleasing people.

Left 4 Dead 2 isn't just a couple of new maps and some new weapons. They did a lot of work on the Director AI, there are four new playable characters, two new special infecteds, a massive amount of new dialogue, new gametype, etc. It's not just something you can tack on for free, or even for pay. It's a full blown sequel with some new mechanics. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/06/01/left-4-dead-2-exclusive-rps-preview/ And let's be serious here: they just put out a free content patch that completed the the first one (Dead Air/Blood Harvest in Versus Mode and the survival mode). That's it. It's a full game now. The problem with Valve is not that they're charging for this stuff; it's that they've somehow managed to spoil PC gamers EVEN MORE by giving them tons of free stuff.

Except that they showed off tech demos of the technology working as they described it. The technology was there, right up on the stage.

Other M will probably reference something in the story.

It's not an oboe it's a bassoon.

I'm locking this. Speculation is pointless. All there is is a fake-looking C&D letter and the I-swear-it's-real testimony of project staffers. What a waste of time.

Because it's a different kind of game? It's not like they're releasing FF7 and FF8 (which are both single-player RPGs) back to back. XIII and XIV are a single-player RPG and an online/MMO game; they don't really compete with each other.

It wasn't mentioned as a PS3 exclusive. There was a little wordplay on Tretton's part; he said it would be playable only on the PS3 when it launches in 2010. It'll probably make its way to 360 and PC eventually, but PS3's going to get the initial release. It looks pretty cool; I'm interested in seeing more of it.

Yeah he mentioned it yesterday in #ocremix.

No, not "pretty good." Excepting Mario, Golden Sun, and Metroid, it was a pretty terrible conference. They spent far too much time telling us about things we've already seen; things they announced at LAST year's conference. The Metroid and Mario were fantastic, but it was still a pretty crappy presser.

Prophet go to http://www.swtor.com/ and download the WMV version directly from there. It's the best quality one you can get.

Looked absolutely amazing. No doubt people will whine about plot and cinematics.

Just because it takes place 300 years later doesn't mean you won't see a continuation of the story. Hell, Star Wars: Vector was a storyline that spanned 4000 years. BioWare is really pushing STORY as a major part of The Old Republic, moreso than any other MMO. Plus the entire game is going to be voiced. If you're really interested in KOTOR's storyline, pick up the comic. Sure it's a 4-5 years-before-prequel, but they've been dropping a lot of stuff about Malak and Revan lately.

Finding Nemo is the best. Seriously though, a favorites thread?

Because Natal is not just a WEBCAM which is what the Eyetoy is. It's an entire system consisting of facial/body recognition, voice recognition, and motion-sensing in 3D space. Eyetoy looks at the picture and says "there is an amorphous blob here;" Natal looks at the picture and says "there is a person standing here and he's wearing a 3-piece suit and a duck mask and he's standing about 5 feet away from the TV with his right leg forward and his left leg about 2 feet back and he's also holding a sword. Oh it's MIKE! I'll sign him into his gamer profile." Just for one second look beyond the hardware and try to realize what happens when you put all the pieces together. Whether the software developed for this system will appeal to you or not, there's no denying that the technology in and of itself is brilliant.

You're still not saying why it's bad though.

I'm not joking.

Come on guys. Natal is fricking brilliant.

http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23752 http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23758

Yeah don't worry about it. My "why is this difficult to understand" was more of a general lamentation than a specific criticism directed at you.

No, it wasn't. In any case, let's avoid having big catch-all E3 threads. If there's something specific out of E3 that catches your eye, feel free to make a thread about it.

Oh, also, while the beginning is very sad, it's also very beautiful and touching.

It's not depressing. It's sad, but it's not depressing.