The Coop

Silly judge. Everyone knows that CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!

So you're saying you're not a little lad who loves berries and cream?

Really? All I got was a big, bi-ped robot telling me to drop my mail, and that I had twenty seconds to comply.

Redemption: Granted. A long time ago, back when I first bought Doom Collector's Edition, I played the games within a lot. But I'll be the first to admit... I cheated. Not on Ultimate Doom, but on Doom II. Why? Because the Icon of Sin was pissing me off to no end. So for those not in the know, here's the scoop. It's a huge demon head, with part of its brain exposed. You have to fire somewhere between 2 and 5 rockets into that exposed brain area to kill it. However, there's a catch. To reach that area, you have to activate a tall tower that will slowly come down, and then ride it as it slowly goes back up. However, you can't fire when you reach the top, because you'll be too high to get a rocket into that brain area. Instead, you have to time it just right before the tower stops raising. Whether you succeed or fail, you then have to jump down, reactivate the tower, and wait as it slowly lowers again. Sounds fun, huh? BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE! As you're doing this, the demon head it firing out cubes that travel varying distances, then spawn a random monster. This monster can range from a simple zombie gunner, to a nasty Arch Vile, and everything in-between. It does this about once every seven or eight seconds roughly. Needless to say, in a very short period of time, the area you're running around in becomes very, very crowded. Pain Elementals get formed, and they fire off Lost Souls, Arch Viles start resurrecting all the beasts you killed, Revenants fire homing rockets left and right... fun stuff. There's not much in the way of ammo replenishers, so you've gotta be careful what you use to deal with the ever growing number of hellspawn. Anyway, yes, I cheated to beat this bastard, and it still took forever. I kept getting knocked off the platform by Lost Souls and homing rockets, or knocked askew by something else (which resulted in my rocket going off course). But a short while ago, I redeemed myself. Being on a retro kick lately, I've been playing the Doom games in DOSBox (original control options, resolution, etc.). And though I had to restart the level over and over, I finally beat the Icon of Sin on Ultra Violence. No cheats, no tricks, and no exploits. Just a lot of running, a lot of timed BFG-9000 shots, and a whole lot of hiding around edges. Damn nasty, but what else would you expect from the final boss?

Hurrican Remember the "Turrican" series for the C64, Amiga, Genesis and SNES (among others)? Well, here's a new remake/inspired game that uses that series as a base. It's taken a good few years for this game to be made, and looking at the graphics, you'll see way. A lot of time was put into this game, to update the tunes and graphics, while keeping that familiar gameplay style... and it shows. The graphics are "Euro style", the music is good, the controls are on the money, and there are all sorts of familiar faces to be seen and blowed up real good. It's quite well done, and worth the 40MB download to play it.

Might it have something to do with this, or the Sega Gold collection in general? If it's a music CD, it could just be tunes or remixes from the games that were part of this "Gold" collection. If it's a game CD, it may be a compilation of them (or at least some of them).

Put the compatibility mode of your MechWarrior 3 executable shortcut to "Windows 98/ME" or "Windows 95", and it should run without problems.

Why be unhappy with Microsoft? They told you what you're allowed to do with their product right there in the fine print as you said. It's been known for a while that when you buy your average edition of XP Home Edition or XP Pro, that it's only good for installation on one PC (I believe you can purchase special multi-system licenses, but I'm not certain). I recall a lot of complaining about that several years ago here on OCR, because of the hassle surrounding having to reinstall/re-authorize it if your PC went through a destructive restore, or had its hard drive die abruptly. It's Microsoft's attempt at protecting itself from having one person buy the Operating System, and then hand it out to everyone they know for use. So really, if you're going to be unhappy, be that way towards the store for giving you false information, and yourself for not taking the time to read up on what you can (and can't) do with the XP version you wanted.

What in the bloody hell is this spam doing here?

Two threads with basically the exact same posts. ... Did I miss a meeting?

Another round with nothing for me to vote on? I mean, I can comment on the Dreamcast version of Sonic Adventure 2 and the PC version of Half Life 2, but not the GC and XBox versions.

Wow. Nothing for me to vote on for the first time. ... Weird.

Otogi 2: Immortal Warriors (XBox)- The first game took the hack 'n slash premise, and dressed it up in an interesting mythos based on real-world mythical people/beings, great and stylish graphics, constant action, cool bosses, very nice music, stages that were nearly 100% destructible, and a tough challenge... all while keeping the gameplay simple, streamlined and accessible to anyone willing to take the game on. This second game does all that, with even better graphics, more diversity in the stages, more characters to choose from, new spells, a quest that's nearly as long as the first one, more bosses, and a greater level of replayability. To paraphrase IGN's old review, "It's more of the same, but better". A very solid YES. Test Drive: V-Rally (Dreamcast)- This game was originally called V-Rally 2 on the PS1. But Eden Studios went back and gave the game a facelift, and tweaked various aspects of it. The result is a fun rally game that looked good for its time, had a nice solid framerate, some nice tunes, good controls, and something that adds a lot to the game's fun factor... a track maker. Yes, you can build your own tracks on this thing, and save them to your VMU. Massive hills and drops, hair pin turns, the terrain... a lot is at your disposal, and this addition makes for a lot of fun once you've bested the default tracks that the game offers (which are fun as well). The main downside to this game, is how easy your car flips over... unrealistically easy. Nudge a hillside, and your flipping like coin. This makes for some frustration at times, but it doesn't detract from the game too much. The good courses, variable weather, and the killer track maker help deaden some of the flipping pain. In short, it's a good game that stands in Rallisport Challenge 2's shadow, but it's still deserves a Borderline YES. WipeOut Fusion (PS2)- Like Otogi 2, "It's more of the same, but better". It plays basically just like the first three games in the series, but now it looks a lot better. Plenty of tracks to race on, some good electronica tunes, lots and hectic action as you bounce, blast and careen your way through the increasingly nasty courses, and it still delivers a sizable challenge without having to resort to cheap tactics that prevent you from winning. WF is a very good addition to consistently fun series, and worth a YES. Project Gotham Racing 2 (XBox)- MSR started the ball rolling with a quality racing game. PGR1 kept the momentum going by beefing up a lot of the traits of it's predecessor, from the graphics, to the music, and to the tracks themselves. Now here's the third game in the series, and it continues that upward climb. Graphically, the game is gorgeous, and littered with day, night and rain details that make the real world tracks look great. The kudos system still gives you points for stylish racing (power sliding through turns, etc.), and there are a lot of tracks and track variants to work through. They did a good job licensing some nice music for the game, and the AI in charge of the other drivers is tough, but not cheap. There's even a very fun mini game tucked away that many may have heard of... Geometry Wars. It's (supposedly) in the garage which you can walk through in first-person mode to view all the cars in the game. Of course, all this racing wouldn't mean squat if the controls sucked, but thankfully, they're kept, responsive, arcade-y and clean. This game's probably one of the best racers on the XBox. It does so much right, and so little wrong, it's a game that any race-loving XBox owner would be foolish to pass on. YES.

Gunbird 2 (Dreamcast)- While not the best shmup on the DC, it's still a fun one. Quirky characters, a good challenge, plenty of different characters to choose from (including Morrigan from Darkstalkers), and an easy to understand scoring system for those who like going for score. The graphics nice, and the tunes are decent as well. It's not really a big stand out shmup, but its well constructed qualities still bring it up into the Borderline YES range. GunValkyrie (XBox)- A sleeper hit. Very nice graphics, good control, big levels, fast gameplay that still allows you to explore, and a good challenge that keeps you on your toes as you play. The gameplay is kept simple, but flexible. You can choose your weapons, and then head out to scour the landscape looking for the bug-like aliens you have to kill. Whether it's running along the ground, or using your boost pack to bound high through the air, it's a lot of fun to play this game once you learn the controls. It came and went pretty quickly when it was released, but it's one I feel shouldn't be left to rot in the bargain bins. YES. Soul Calibur 3 (PS2)- dsx100 more or less summed up any points I had to say. The gameplay balance is a bit off from the second game, but like SCII, there's a lot to be done in this fighter. Between the large fighter roster, the very nice visuals, the good tunes, the sharp controls, and all the stuff that lies underneath them, this one's a YES to me. Metal Slug 4 & 5 (XBox)- While Metal Slug Anthology brought the whole 2D series together, some of the games on it didn't quite match the versions that came out on the XBox (MS-3, 4 & 5). The load times in the "Anthology" package don't hurt 4 and 5 much, but the XBox's lack of such load times gives it a point in its favor... as does the graphical handling (no shimmering). They're still the same fun and gun blazing madness-filled games on either compilation, but the XBox's MS-3, MS-4 and MS-5 do have a few qualities that "Anthology" doesn't. As such, I give this game a YES. There's no "Anthology" on XBox, and anyone with just an XBox (or simply no PSP, PS2 or Wii) would be well served to get this combo pack.

Street Fighter Alpha III (Dreamcast)- A lot of folks consider "Third Strike" to be the best Street Fighter game out there. But to me, "Alpha 3" holds that honor. A huge roster of every last fighter up to that point (over thirty), very nice and clean graphics, good animation, good music, endings for everyone, great gameplay balance, lots of fun modes to play the game in... this game's got a lot to it. A solid YES assuredly. Dead or Alive 3 (XBox)- The third entry in the bouncy DoA series, offers up a lot of what DoA 2 had, but spruced it up with some nicer graphics, bigger and more detailed arenas, more costumes, and a final boss that's hard on the eyes thanks to the blurring effect used during your fight with him (think major drug trip). Of course, the "Ultimate" version of DoA2 came along and out shown its sequel, but DoA3 still packs in the same fighting formula that the series is famous (infamous?) for, and offers up a fun gaming time. While the "Ultimate" DoA2 is really the bright spot of the series, DoA3 is still worth a Borderline YES as it stands in that game's shadow. Rallisport Challenge 2 (XBox)- Like Rally racing? Like lots of tracks, plenty of cars, gorgeous graphics, good sound effects, nasty courses that can be raced in the day or night, and the challenge of having cars that can be damaged? How about simply liking good racing games? If you answered yes to any of that, then get this game. Where RSC1 made for a really good Rally game with its graphics, physics, tracks and decent car selecting, RSC2 took everything and upped the ante by a healthy bit. Everything looks just a little nicer, the tracks are great to race on in sun/rain/dark of night/snow, the controls are spot on, your car still takes steady damage as you race (tire wear, body damage, performance loss for impacts, etc), the driver camera is a lot of fun with how it's set up, and the whole game is simply well made. This is a rally game that does a lot of things right, and one of the better rally games out there thanks to its blend of arcade-y and sim traits. A YES without a doubt.

Get the PC version. It has the same games as the XBox version, it runs just fine on US PCs, and here's the cool part... you can play the games in MAME (with dipswitch settings accessible). The PC version installs ROMs, and these ROMs play in MAME without any problems. All you have to do is zip up each folder, and drop the zip file into MAME's "roms" folder.

Taito Legends 2 (PS2)- Okay. First thing to be said for this game, is ignore the IGN and Gamespot reviews. They are horrid, horrid reviews that show the person either only play two games (IGN) or none at all (Gamespot). They give bogus reasons to ignore this game (no interviews? OMGFT!), and they give absolutely no insight on each game on the disc. They're pathetic reviews, by sorry excuses for game reviewers. Now... this game rocks for all the right reasons. Besides having 39 Taito games on a single disc, each game is emulated very well (thought not all are perfect, like the hyper weapon on Metal Black which you can't focus and unfocus at will). Games like Raystorm, Darius Gaiden, G-Darius, Elevator Action Returns, Space Invaders '95, and Metal Black are worth the $19.99 price of admission alone. Add in little seen (but quite fun) games like Arabian Magic, Dungeon Magic, Cleopatra's Fortune, Gun Frontier and others, and the package is made even sweeter. Like all compilations, there are some duds on this one, but the good far outweighs the bad. A Yes for sure. Rygar: The Legendary Adventure (PS2)- Lots of people remember this game on the NES, this sequel does the original proud. Nice graphics, fun gameplay, very good symphonic music, a nice sense of style with the character and setting designs, and some fun bosses. It stumbles a little in the area of translation and voice acting, but you've heard a lot worse. In short, a good 3D action game that's a short (you can get through in 6-10 hours), but sweet. Yes. Baldur’s Gate: Dark Alliance 2 (XBox)- "Remember the first game? Well, have some more". This phrase literally sums up BG:DA2 to a tee. So much of this game looks and feels exactly like the first one, it may come off as a bit lazy at first. But this game continues the tale of the first one, and offer up the same type of gameplay that balances RPG elements (Stat building and such) and Gauntlet-like Hack 'n slack action, with five new characters, all new levels, and the same nicely done for the time graphics and music. A YES in my book. Midway Arcade Treasures 2 (XBox)- The second entry in Midway's ongoing quest of bringing back the old days... though the game's aren't quite as "old" as before. Like before, Digital Eclipse handled the emulation, and like before, it's done well for the most part. There are some issues with games, like Hard Drivin' (there's some spotty collision detection), MK2 and MK3 (the shadows blink on and off a lot as you play, but the gameplay isn't affected at all), and Primal Rage (there's a rare bug that freezes the game), but for the most part, these games look, feel and play like they did back in the 80s and 90s. With games like Mortal Kombat 2, Mortal Kombat 3, Primal Rage, Narc, Xenophobe, Gauntlet II, Wizard of Wor, Xybots and Cyberball 2072, there's plenty of fun to be had that makes the $19.99 (or less now) price tag worth it. Add in some other fun games like Championship Sprint, Hard Drivin' and Rampage World Tour, and you've got plenty of solid, entertaining games that makes this compilation worth getting. It's not quite as strong as the first MAT thanks to slightly lower quality emulation work, but it's still worth a Borderline YES from me.

Resident Evil Code: Veronica (Dreamcast)- The first Resident Evil game to finally ditch the pre-rendered backgrounds, and go full 3D. It's also a great entry in the series. Very nice graphics, some good cinemas, a story with a bizarre twist or two, a nice balance of RE3 action with the RE1 slower pace, and a solid gaming experience from beginning to end. It's a bit stingy with the ammo at times, but they're all like that. YES. Under Defeat (Dreamcast)- One of the last great games to be released on the system in Japan. It's a shmup, but it's a shmup with style. Gorgeous graphics, two loops to play through, lots of action and blasting without resorting to being a "bullet hell" shmup, some cool bosses, a good challenge, and the best explosion and smoke effects the Dreamcast ever produced. It's gameplay is kept simple, but the game 's crafted very well from start to finish. It even offers background variations for the second loop, which adds a nice touch. A very good game, and a solid YES. Gradius V (PS2)- After the somewhat disappointing Gradius IV, Konami handed the reigns of their long running series to Treasure. The result, is a fresh take on a series that was beginning to grow a bit stale. Very nice graphics, good tunes, some great gameplay ideas with with options, fun boss battles, new visual takes on a lot of the Gradius staples (sans the cheerio shooting Easter Island "Moai" heads), and a rather interesting twist to the opening and ending. In short, a fine entry to the series, and a YES. AirForce Delta Storm (XBox)- Take the original game, give it better graphics, more planes, more missions, and the same generic type of story, and here you go. The arcade-y controls are still spot on, and the sheer number of planes give you a lot of choices in terms of how to go after the missions. The missions themselves are on par with the DC, in that the occasional odd mission gets thrown in to spice things up. One of the few flight games on the XBox, but like it's DC prequel, if you can get past the generic story behind it all, there's plenty of fun to be had. A Borderline YES. Capcom Classics Collection 2 (XBox)- The second set of Capcom's retro packs, and it's just as good as the first. Games like 1941, The King of Dragons, Strider, Super Street Fighter II Turbo (HOLY SHIT IS THIS VERSION HARD!), and Magic Sword make this thing worth getting on their own. But add in other fun games like Eco Fighters, Quiz & Dragons, Knights of the Round, Side Arms Hyper Dyne and Captain Commando, and you've got even more reasons to own this compilation. It's got a few duds in it, like the horrid original Street Fighter, but most compilation have ones you don't wanna play. There's plenty of things to unlock, like music, artwork and such, so it'll give you something to go after while you play. It's another fine compilation, and a YES to me.

Follow me my friends, and let Uncle Coop tell you a tale. A tale of triumph and tragedy, odds overcome, and swearing a-plenty. It all began long ago when I got my first FPS... Zero Tolerance for the Genesis. Bad tunes aside, I enjoyed running up and down its simplified halls, pumping off shots at stiffly animated people and robots, and squinting at the 1/4 of the screen that was used for the actual gaming screen. I bought it from a pawn shop near where I lived at the time, and was in pixelated heaven as I saw the genre that had been alive and well on PC for a number of years by the time Zero Tolerance came out. We jump forward a few years, and there I was as I browsed the steadily shrinking area of Genesis games at the local K-Mart of that same town. On a shelf above the gaming racks, was a row of new 32X units, all packed with Doom. Much to my surprise, they were $30... a cash amount that I just happened to have. So, I grabbed a 32X from the shelf, went up to the cashier who was middle-aged woman I had passingly known for about a year, and purchased my new toy. Once home, I tried to hook the add-on up, but it was missing a key part... the cable that allows an older Genesis unit to connect via its RGB port in the back. Somehow, I got a unit with two cables that hooked up from the back of the 32X, to the end on the RGB cable I was missing, instead of one of each cable. So, I packed the system back up, and got a ride to K-Mart so I could exchange it. This took only a few minutes, and before long, I was home again. I hooked up my new 32X, plugged in Doom, and hit the power switch. After staring at an empty black screen for fifteen seconds, I turned the system off, made sure everything was set up right, and tried again. This time I got a pop from the TV speaker, but nothing else. After an hour of trying things, and giving various items the prefix "fucking", I came to the conclusion that the copy of Doom in this second 32X box was defective. And so, back to the K-Mart I went... but this time, I had a plan. I took my Genesis with me, and once at the store, I asked the woman if I could piece together a working 32X system from the two I had returned, and then test it on one of the TVs they had turned on in their electronic center. She agreed, and ten minutes later, I'd mix-and-matched a 32X unit with the needed cables, and a working Doom cart. With this done, home I went, and I indulged myself in an couple hours of having my first Doom experience. And all was right with the world. Another year is jumped, and myself and a friend are found in that same town's local video store, looking for some games to rent for my Saturn. On their shelf was the Saturn version of Doom, which I'd heard nasty things about in an issue of GameFan. But, as with most seemingly bad ideas, curiosity was nagging me. So, we ponied up the $9 to rent it and a couple other Saturn games, and then went to his house to play the night away. Much to my surprise, the Saturn version wasn't as bad as the review made it out to be. Yes, the frame rate was pretty rough, and the sound effects didn't work right unless you set it to "mono" for sound, but there was so much more than what was offered in the 32X version. The monsters had more sides... things became darker as they moved away from you... there were more types of enemies... more weapons... most of the Ultimate Doom and Doom II levels... much better music... it was like a whole different game compared to the 32X's eternally bright rooms and forward-only facing monsters. And so it was that a couple months later, after I had to return the Saturn version of Hexen to a local Walmart because of its enormous memory block usage (over 3000) and non-working passwords, I came back from that same store with a new copy of the Saturn version of Doom, and dug into it. Leap ahead a few years, and you'd find me browsing a new town's local K-Mart that was closing its doors for good. They had a brand new SNES with Killer Instinct as its pack-in for $25. After inspecting the battered box to make sure everything was still intact, and seeing that some bastard had taken the "Killer Cuts" CD, I noticed a new copy of Doom for the SNES sitting in the case for $9. Just because I already owned two versions of the game, was no reason to not get a third... right? I forked out the cash for the system and game, and went happily home with the knowledge that I'd found a little treasure. Yes, the graphics and framerate were rough, but the music was quite nice, there were more levels than the 32X version, and playing through the game's 16bit encarnation in all its heavily pixelated glory was fun. A couple more years go by, and there I am driving to a local flea market near the same town. A few months earlier, I'd bought a new PS1 from a local Funcoland, and its version of Doom was something I wanted after reading reviews of how good it was. I'd been lucky enough to get the PS1 version of Final Doom while I was buying the system, but they had no copies of Doom in stock. But fortunately for me, the flea market I was headed to had a permanent video store there, that also sold games new and used... and they had one remaining new copy of the game I sought for $25. I eventually arrived, bought it, went home, and just went "Doom" happy. I played Doom first, and smiled at the smooth framerate, the good tunes I'd heard in the Saturn version, colored lighting, proper sounding effects, and all the good stuff that the Saturn port was either missing or had broken because of the sloppy job Rage Software had done porting the PS1 game to the Saturn. But now I felt content, knowing I finally had a good version of the game, and the "Final" game to boot... or at least, half of the "Final" game as I later found out. Leap ahead again a few years to May of 2001, and we find myself with my first PC playing Unreal. Oh the joy I felt as I started slowly buying the PC games I'd heard so much about, but never got to play. Quake, Unreal, MechWarrior 2... ah, much gaming goodness was had. A couple months later, I found out that a collection was going to be released in the Fall... a collection of games that I couldn't resist getting. On September 9th, 2001, Doom Collector's Edition was released, and I was at a local Gamestop to pick it up the day it finally arrived in-store. As I drove home from the store, I couldn't help but think, I finally have the originals! Yes, Ultimate Doom, Doom II: Hell on Earth, and the entire version of Final Doom were sitting next to me on the passenger seat. Each game uncut, unedited, with every level intact... oh I could hardly wait to get home and install it. When I finally did, it was indeed a great moment. I heard the original midi tunes for the first time. I saw the textures and monsters at a nicer resolution. I marveled at the framerate that was so smooth and stutter free, and relished the controls that felt so much more fluid. I read the goofy endings as I came to them. It was like finally reaching the peak of a mountain, after climbing up smaller hills that I had thought was that mountain. I had a sense of... satisfaction. I had the real game... the game the previous versions tried to be. Leap forward to today. At some point, I will buy the GBA port of Doom, just so I can have that game with me whenever I have a long trip to make where I'm not doing the driving. Now if I could just find it for a reasonable price... So that you have it. I own five versions of Doom in various forms, with a sixth one on the way. I enjoyed each one of the five I currently own in their day, and I still have them all with me. It may seem a bit odd, or perhaps even foolish, but it was a weird process that offered up increasing levels of fun as it went along. And yes, I have Doom 64 as well. Oh. And if you ever find yourself playing the 32X version, don't bother looking for the BFG9000... it's not in the game. Yep. The folks forgot to program in the biggest weapon. The only way to get it, is to use the ammo cheat that gives you everything, but makes it so you can't see the ending. Neat huh? So with all of that out of the way, tell me... how many versions of a given game do you own?

Come to PPR, where everything is flame broiled eventually.

Better?- It depends on your skill level. Some people say building a PC is easy, but something tells me you have to be very careful in how you handle all the various parts, and with putting it together. You don't wanna push too hard or you'll snap something, and letting static build up on you could lead to a fried component when it discharges. Of course, if you don't feel comfortable assembling the innards yourself, you could get a friend who's built them before to do it. Or, you just buy it off the shelf. Keep in mind that you'll also have to install all the drivers and the OS yourself to get everything up and running, so you won't be able to simply turn it on and get going. There will indeed be assembly required Cost?- It's supposed to be cheaper to buy everything yourself and build it. You don't have to pay for the extra stuff they cram in there (programs, "not as good" memory sticks that need to be replaced, any extra CD/DVD drives or devices, their labor costs, etc.), as you'll only get what you actually pay for. Know that you will have to buy an OS yourself, so take that expense into account. Of course, make sure you know all the stuff you're going to need to build the type of PC you want (gaming, just web browsing, etc.). Making a thread in the Tech Help forum should give you plenty of advice in that area, so keep that in mind if you go the "build it yourself" route.

Halo 2 (XBox)- The much praised (and often dividing) sequel to the first XBox hit. It offered a broader story, more mission and settings variations, good music, a cliff hangar ending, some interesting twists as you play through, better graphics, and an overall great gaming experience. While some bag on it and it's ending, it doesn't lessen what many reviews have stated... that it's a great game. YES.

Hmm.. you know, I thought I saw this posted as well. Maybe it's in the wrong thread. I thought that as well, but there's no other post with the picture in it. Weird.

I could swear I posted this right after DragonFireKai's post...