Jam Stunna Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 ICs aren't as bad as I've said they are, but you still have a pretty good chance against them. It's a cliche, but DON'T GET GRABBED. Just pick someone who out-spaces their grab range (which is pretty poor). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 infinites are for gays period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Stunna Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I love infinites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defender!! Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 it is cliche, dude. it's incredibly difficult to prepare a proper offense when i'm forced to stay away from my opponent at all times. it means i can't play as dedede because my grab game is fucked (nana can knock me off) and that's fine, it's an advantage of the character. i SHOULD be punished for trying to grab the ice climbers. however, i find it difficult to believe i should lose a stock for being within grabbing range of my opponent. i understand that it won't be banned until it's proven to break tourneys. fine. i'm just not going to singles tourneys anymore, is all. i know i was better than the other player, we had played doubles and i beat both him and his partner in a truly gut-wrenching 2v1 situation. that's probably the most irritating thing and probably my main gripe--i will readily lose to an ike or an olimar that outplays me. i can't stand losing to ice climbers that turn one mistake into an immediate loss of stock. it's just frustrating that i'm missing the boat on a competitive community, is all. i'm certainly not risking big money on whether or not my opponent can grab me. but i'm against all infinites in brawl, so what do i know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 i know i was better than the other player ololololololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Stunna Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 If you don't win, then you weren't the better player in that match. It's as simple as that. It doesn't matter if you're 50-0 in tournament, if you lose a round or a match, for the duration of that match your opponent was better than you. Dedede should have no problem at all against the ICs. His grab range is better, his chainthrow is better, his projectiles are better, his aerials are better, his smashes are better, his recovery is better. Everything about D3 is better than the ICs. Your problem probably stems from the fact that you have very little experience against ICs, especially chain-throwing ICs. Get them off the stage, gimp Nana in mid-air (which should be a piece of cake as D3), and you win. That's really all it takes. If the IC shield camps you to try and get a grab, grab them first. D3's grab is so much faster than the ICs, and you should have thrown Popo away by the time Nana can even react thanks to the desync lag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mike Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Defender, where in MD do you live? I'm around germantown, and I need more exposure to some decent players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defender!! Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 yeah, you're probably right. honestly, i think it's a mix of multiple things. i guess i phrased myself wrong, what i meant was in a pure match of 1v1 without infinites on his or my part, i doubt i would've lost--i believe i was the better "pure" player, for whatever that's worth, but it's not a "pure" environment in any sense of the word, the game wouldn't have the depth or community it does if it were "pure" in that sense. it really was a lack of exposure to ic's (chaingrabbing ones, at that) and an inability to adapt my style, i guess. i'd ftilt to keep him away, throw waddles, bair, dsmash, inhale (terrible, terrible idea), everything to keep him at bay...and i'd just mess up one single time and lose a stock for it. more than anything, i suppose i have to realize that the ice climbers are the ultimate punishment character. about shield grabbing, i really couldn't grab them back--every time i would, nana would knock me off. i would somehow continually hit nana, i even scored a gordo and it barely brushed by popo and knocked her out. i managed to separate the two often and killed nana a few times, the bottom line is it's just aggravating that against the ice climbers one mistake leads to a 60 - 80% punishment. add to the fact that him and i played that 2v1 earlier (shiku's fox and lobos' toon link v. my dedede) and i beat him. i understand it's the nature of the game, i'm just not comfortable with spending upwards of $20 in that situation. i guess i'm approaching this in the same way someone would approach mario strikers. i don't know if anyone has played that, but i'm extremely competitive in that game and while some of the tricks are just downright nasty and simple, they're not entirely game-breaking. there certainly are ways around it if you know how...all in all, i guess i didn't know how. the difference, though, is that in strikers it'll put you back one or two points...but not an entire stock, match or set. unless someone spams it, obviously, which is what he did. because i didn't know how to stop him. and it really was my first "real" tourney, so i didn't make the realization that some characters would've been good in that situation. namely, an ice climbers ditto. correct me if i'm wrong, but i'd think my nana would prevent his popo from hornswoggling me. mike, i live in severn...we'd talked about playing a few games before, i really wish you could've made it to the tourney we had before. we get together regularly if you'd like to join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfoot Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Here's some videos of my friends and I playing. Ike almost killed my Ness in 3 hits, rofl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global-Trance Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Well it's been awhile... looking for someone to play with that's halfway decent that I haven't played with yet. Any takers for later today? You definitely have my attention if you can beat Atma or Jam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobaltstarfire Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I'll poke you after I get to battle Jam a few times one on one, we've only done multi man melees. You probably won't want to play me though, but I'd like to play you, only way to get better right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum4n After All Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I fucking hate this game and still play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Stunna Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Well it's been awhile... looking for someone to play with that's halfway decent that I haven't played with yet. Any takers for later today? You definitely have my attention if you can beat Atma or Jam. It's like Street Fighter. G-T is Bison, and me, Atma and Ayres are Balrog, Vega and Sagat. I'm not sure who's who, but I'd like to be Sagat if possible. He's so damn badass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dervish Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I fucking hate this game and still play it. Oh noes, SSBB is becoming Counterstrike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenwarlord Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Atma is definitely Vega. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global-Trance Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 It's like Street Fighter. G-T is Bison, and me, Atma and Ayres are Balrog, Vega and Sagat. I'm not sure who's who, but I'd like to be Sagat if possible. He's so damn badass. Only if you can do that cross-armed/shrug laugh with an eye-patch. If you can, then you may reside in your portion of Thailand. Edit: Cobaltfirestarcosmosthingamabob, sure we can play later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted June 1, 2008 Author Share Posted June 1, 2008 you fgts are forgetting one person who has been able to topple atma and is again able to do it ME bring it on plus ayres doesnt even rep ocr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triad Orion Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 It's like Street Fighter. G-T is Bison, and me, Atma and Ayres are Balrog, Vega and Sagat. I'm not sure who's who, but I'd like to be Sagat if possible. He's so damn badass. I find this analogy entertaining because these images amuse me. *Rubber Stamps "Approval"* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Stunna Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 you fgts are forgetting one person who has been able to topple atma and is again able to do itME bring it on plus ayres doesnt even rep ocr Oh yeah, that's right. So here we are now: Bison- GT Vega- Atma Balrog- Arek Sagat- Jam This so needs to become a sig at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 jam i need to play you in some actually serious matches for once i have no fun playing snake or oli anymore which is why i rarely pick them when playing anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Stunna Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 jam i need to play you in some actually serious matches for oncei have no fun playing snake or oli anymore which is why i rarely pick them when playing anyone Yeah, I've been trying to find a main character since I bought this game. Hopefully, I finally have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 well my main is still oli and snake is still my alt as it always has been but i only ever pick them in a tourney match or if im getting pounded real bad by gt or smth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global-Trance Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 If Ayres was still here, he'd definitely tie for Sagat at the least. That guy is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Stunna Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 From the description on the Youtube page: No, I did not screw with the damage ratio. If I did, they'd do the normal amount of damage.Thanks to myself for being the Jeckyl of this glitch, and Red Blue for being the Hydde of this glitch. Here is the formula of the glitch (I made the glitch, no idiots better say it's theirs.) You go on Mario Brothers Stage with one or more people, you have to use a reflecting character. One person throws a random crab or turtle on that stage to the guy with the reflector. Do the same with the other guy, and if they aren't powered up yet you wait your ass 'till next match. I unconvered this glitch upon trying to do the Brawl Black Hole. WOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Woah. It only works on wi-fi though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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