Brandon Strader Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I'm jealous my music wasn't good enough to be stolen by Russians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozovian Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 It will be my pleasure. I need to do some research first. They made some important changes to Russian Copyright law in 2008 I still need to read up on. The things you learn on the internet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansato Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I understand what's going on here and can only imagine how pissed the musicians who got ripped off by these guys must be, but at the same time I don't understand how it makes any sense for beaglesounds to sell stuff that can legally be acquired for free. Several aspects of this problem just grate on my nerves, including the sheer lack of intelligence these people apparently possess and the slap in the face they've given to the musicians whose work is being sold on that site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darangen Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I'm jealous my music wasn't good enough to be stolen by Russians If it'll make you feel better, I'll steal your music. I'm not Russian though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramaniscence Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Anyone else think that it's hilarious that site is using the album art for Kind of Bloop that was determined to be copyright infringement itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Strader Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 beaglesounds That's an insult to Beagles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCT Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I'm jealous my music wasn't good enough to be stolen by Russians Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sole Signal Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Well clearly they're scraping Bandcamp. Anyone ReMixer or composer here who has a page there may want to check for their stuff on (il)Legalsounds. BTW, if I'm missing the Bandcamp page of a posted mixer for their profile, lemme know. http://solesignal.bandcamp.com/Just changed it from solesignal.protagonistrecords.com so looks like I lucked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Strader Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Me too. Hahaha... they're all outraged and we're like "Wut, why not meeee!" So sad man... why weren't we good enough?? Oh yeah, bandcamp? For artist profiles? Okay. http://brandonstrader.bandcamp.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gario Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 For whatever it's worth*, I'm getting people riled about it elsewhere, too (NG, for example, is also heavily affected by the site). The more people pissed about it, the better. * - the actual worth is close to nothing, since it's entirely outside the USA's jurisdiction, and therefore the site can just give us the big middle finger if we demand a takedown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC2151 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 That didn't stop them from taking down megaupload! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollgagh Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 wait where was megaupload based I missed that detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustin Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 So many friends are on here - MC Lars, Beefy, etc. It's not just Bandcamp. I've put out a call on Twitter - if we organize, I think it may have some sort of effect. Just not sure what that effect will be. Oh, the irony that this is what SOPA was about. If only it actually attacked the problem and not the country. POP POP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC2151 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 wait where was megaupload basedI missed that detail From what I gather, Germany, Switzerland, Hong Kong, and USA all held servers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny B Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 yaaaaaaay my stuff is up there and nope, i ain't got a single Russian dime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteo Xavier Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Rubles. They're called rubles in Russiatown. I'm also fairly surprised this is just now becoming an issue. Didn't anyone notice this stuff before today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny B Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 i think you're thinking of Hyrule. i've seen these sites before. i'm not really sure what can be done, we could email them all day long but i'm fairly sure they know what they're doing and all you'd get is a very Ruskie "fuck off", if that. but if anyone has had success shutting them down I'm all ears! I also have a hard time believing people give much business to these sites when they could just go one site over and get them for free... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteo Xavier Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 No, I think you're thinking of Hyrule. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_currency Anyways, yeah, these places can't possibly make enough real money for anyone to give a shit. Most internet savvy people wouldn't trust a site that looks like that much less give it money. You ever Google your own published work that's out? I had my ESPERS album show up on a Christian Civil War Music site once. My novel showed up on studentdoctorsupplies.com or something like that. Distribution gets crazy to the point where you don't know if these sites are phantoms are not. I found one some years ago and wrote David about it to no interest on his part, so I pretty much assumed everyone knew about these sites and knew the best thing to do was pretty much ignore it since, yeah, its Russia, they don't give a shit over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level 99 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 i think you're thinking of Hyrule.i've seen these sites before. i'm not really sure what can be done, we could email them all day long but i'm fairly sure they know what they're doing and all you'd get is a very Ruskie "fuck off", if that. but if anyone has had success shutting them down I'm all ears! I also have a hard time believing people give much business to these sites when they could just go one site over and get them for free... What happened when I found out that they were stealing NiGHTS: Lucid Dreaming was I put the call out online, here and elsewhere, to email them and bombard their twitter with requests to remove it. They took it down in under two days, but did not send a response email to me at all. I can only assume it would have the same effect again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteo Xavier Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 It was the same website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level 99 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 It was the same website? Yes, it was. http://www.tssznews.com/2011/07/22/nights-lucid-dreaming-creators-attempt-to-thwart-illegal-album-sale/ Really, just getting the word out and having a few sites and a lot of people email was exactly what resolved the issue with this one. However, that was just one album then...this is potentially a whole slew of artists that they host. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteo Xavier Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I have to wonder how much they would care if the first bout didn't stop them from doing it again. I'm actually surprised it worked in the first place. More power to you Steve. Let me know how that goes because the precedent set there is relevant to what I do for a living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadiePC Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I Wrote them.....I apologize for the wall of text: Good day, my name is Mike Ponce, and I firmly request that you immediately cease and desist the hosting and sales of the following artists' music: 8 Bit Instrumental - http://8bitinstrumental.bandcamp.com 8 Bit Weapon - http://8bitweapon.bandcamp.com A_Rival - http://rivalrivalrival.bandcamp.com Aetherius - http://aetherius.bandcamp.com Alec Holowka - http://infiniteammo.bandcamp.com Alexander Brandon - http://alexanderbrandon.bandcamp.com Andrew Curnock - http://beattherapy.bandcamp.com Arkimedes - http://leitbur.bandcamp.com Benjamin Briggs - http://benjaminbriggs.bandcamp.com Big Giant Circles - http://biggiantcircles.bandcamp.com Binster - http://binster.bandcamp.com brentalfloss - http://brentalfloss.bandcamp.com Brian Allen Holmes - http://brianallenholmes.bandcamp.com Brian Grainger - http://milieu.bandcamp.com C418 - http://c418.bandcamp.com CFX - http://cfxmusic.bandcamp.com Christian Pacaud - http://unconsciouscity.bandcamp.com Cyborg Jeff - http://cyborgjeff.bandcamp.com Danny Baranowsky - http://dbsoundworks.bandcamp.com DarK PurPLe - http://phrancis.bandcamp.com DCT - http://sonicskillz.bandcamp.com Derek Huelsman - http://dhuelsman.bandcamp.com DiGi Valentine - http://digivalentine.bandcamp.com Disasterpeace - http://disasterpeace.bandcamp.com DrumUltimA - http://medicinelake.bandcamp.com elzfernomusic - http://elzfernomusic.bandcamp.com Erik Asmussen - http://erikthomas82.bandcamp.com Evahn - http://evanp.bandcamp.com flashygoodness - http://flashygoodness.bandcamp.com Flexstyle - http://flexstyle.bandcamp.com Frédéric Motte - http://elmobo.bandcamp.com Grant Kirkhope - http://grantkirkhope.bandcamp.com halc - http://halc.bandcamp.com Hot Freaks - http://hotfreaks.bandcamp.com Howard Drossin - http://howarddrossin.bandcamp.com HyperDuck SoundWorks - http://hyperduck.bandcamp.com Insert Rupee - http://insertrupee.bandcamp.com Inverse Phase - http://inversephase.bandcamp.com Jake Kaufman - http://virt.bandcamp.com Jakesnke17 - http://djjd.bandcamp.com Jason Covenant - http://jasoncovenant.bandcamp.com JH Sounds - http://jhsounds.bandcamp.com jmr - http://jmrmusic.bandcamp.com Jonathan Geer - http://jonathangeer.bandcamp.com Jonathan van den Wijngaarden - http://musicbyjonathan.bandcamp.com Jormungand - http://jschwebke.bandcamp.com Josh Whelchel - http://joshw.bandcamp.com Joshua Morse - http://joshuamorse.bandcamp.com kLuTz - http://klutzmusic.bandcamp.com ktriton - http://ktriton.bandcamp.com k-wix - http://k-wix.bandcamp.com Laura Shigihara - http://laurashigihara.bandcamp.com Magnus Pålsson - http://souleyedigitalmusic.bandcamp.com Malcos - http://malcos.bandcamp.com Mattias Häggström Gerdt - http://anosou.bandcamp.com Mattias Holmgren - http://mattiasholmgren.bandcamp.com Mazedude - http://mazedude.bandcamp.com Mega Ran - http://random.bandcamp.com Mellogear - http://summerherekids.bandcamp.com Meteo Xavier - http://meteoxavier.bandcamp.com Minibosses - http://minibosses.bandcamp.com N00dle - http://noodletheinnocentchild.bandcamp.com Navi - http://swamisound.bandcamp.com Nick Perrin - http://nickperrin.bandcamp.com OverCoat - http://overcoat.bandcamp.com Peter Hajba - http://skaven252.bandcamp.com Phr4kture - http://phrakture.bandcamp.com Poolside - http://poolside.bandcamp.com Prince of Darkness - http://tonydickinson.bandcamp.com Project X - http://projectx.bandcamp.com PROTO·DOME - http://protodome.bandcamp.com PrototypeRaptor - http://prototyperaptor.bandcamp.com RoeTaKa - http://alexroe.bandcamp.com Romain Gauthier - http://ninomojo.bandcamp.com sci - http://soundsfromsci.bandcamp.com Sefiros - http://sefiros.bandcamp.com Select Start - http://selectstartband.bandcamp.com Shane Barber - http://rushcoil.bandcamp.com Shnabubula - http://shnabubula.bandcamp.com Sir Jordanius - http://sirjordanius.bandcamp.com some1namedjeff - http://jeffball.bandcamp.com Stemage - http://stemage.bandcamp.com The Grammar Club - http://thegrammarclub.bandcamp.com The Joker - http://davidlpuga.bandcamp.com The Megas - http://themegas.bandcamp.com The OneUps - http://theoneups.bandcamp.com The Vagrance - http://thecoldcoldhearts.bandcamp.com TheGuitahHeroe - http://theguitahheroe.bandcamp.com Theophany - http://theophany-rmx.bandcamp.com Tim Wright - http://coldstorage.bandcamp.com Tomáš Dvořák - http://innerfx.bandcamp.com Tuned Logic - http://tunedlogic.bandcamp.com Tyler Heath - http://tylerheath.bandcamp.com WillRock - http://willrock1.bandcamp.com Year 200X - http://year200x.bandcamp.com Zas - http://zazmusic.bandcamp.com zid - http://mohammadyazid.bandcamp.com zircon - http://zirconstudios.bandcamp.com zyko - http://zyko.bandcamp.com The majority of what I've listed is either available for free via the musician's site(s), often the case for video game remixes/re-arrangements, or for profit, usually the case with original, non-derivative works. The violations I accuse you/your site of committing are the following: -Theft of intellectual property(use without express or implied permission) -violation of innumerable sets of individual ToS(Terms of Service) set forth by the individual artists/producers of said content -theft of profits lost by original artists/wages lost On a personal note, I am ashamed that such a brazen, deceitful act can even be performed by someone who claims to be human. I think about the artists, many of whom are independent, struggling musicians. I think about the fact that every album that they sell, often at a 'pay-what-you-want' rate, helps them pay their bills. The fact that you would undercut these people sickens me; That you would do so under a banner of "paying royalties to the artists", and that you even have the audacity to name your site "Legal Sounds" is outright revolting. I am not an artist. I am a fan. I don't have disposable income with which to buy every album that I want, even at the ridiculously low costs that are often set. When I DO decide to purchase music, I want my money to go to the artists, not a self-glorifying online con-artist. To make the grievous matters even worse is the fact that I was notified of this scam by a community on which I participate--OverClocked ReMix. This site survives on the goodwill of video game music composers, who stipulate that as long as the site is not-for-profit, they endorse these tributes made in their name. Your site, by contrast, SELLS OUTRIGHT the works of many of these composers, robbing them of their rightful credit and compensation, eroding the goodwill and relationships that we(the community) have built. I request that you remove these links, or AT THE VERY LEAST, acknowledge that rightful credit has NOT been given. I implore you to take the high road. Our community is peaceful and amiable, provided open talks are attempted. I warn you, however, that this community is a sizeable one. ignoring these requests will not end well for your site. Respectfully, Mike 'PC' Ponce OverClocked ReMix member Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumUltimA Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Hmm... I see my name in your list, but I haven't found any of my stuff on their website... hopefully they wont add it after reading your email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phonetic Hero Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 This is still going on? Unbe-fucking-lievable. I'll be emailing, as soon as I wake up from a depression-induced nap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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