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Mega Man X: The Grand Maverick Remix Battle 2012

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Just so you guys know, i'm not trying to twist peoples words or single anyone out here. Sorry if I came off as a bit antaganistic there, that wasn't my goal. All i'm saying is give people the benefit of the doubt if there is room for it :)

I'm sure anyone who doesn't put in an entry has a good reason. Its not worth worrying about. It sucks but it happens.

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Just so you guys know, i'm not trying to twist peoples words or single anyone out here. Sorry if I came off as a bit antaganistic there, that wasn't my goal. All i'm saying is give people the benefit of the doubt if there is room for it :)

I'm sure anyone who doesn't put in an entry has a good reason. Its not worth worrying about. It sucks but it happens.

Likewise about being antagonistic, and I'm all about giving people the benefit of the doubt, I just think it needs to be stressed that dropping out should be a last resort thing. Everyone understands that you only have a week to mix, and posting anything is better than dropping - not only for the mixer but for his/her opponent as well.

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I don't think there's any harm in posting what's there. If it turns out he's waiting to put in Hak's mix, then we'll get it when Darke posts it. If not, then the link really should be up right now.

Because of that reasoning, I'll go ahead and post it until Darke updates the first page because he seems to be unavailable right now despite my attempts to contact him about it.

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Yeah but that zip is missing hak's song, and hak's screenshot showed that he subbed in well in time. And he said he re-sent it to Darke, so it's probably just best to wait until Darke comes back online and clears everything up himself.

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Yeah but that zip is missing hak's song, and hak's screenshot showed that he subbed in well in time. And he said he re-sent it to Darke, so it's probably just best to wait until Darke comes back online and clears everything up himself.

That was what I was saying. If that is the case, then we'll get the mix when Darke posts it. It would be just like choosing to listen and vote at a later date. But everything points to it just being a mistake that it's not posted. On the first page, it looks like that part of the post was just forgotten. It definitely says voting is live. He hasn't taken voting down.

EDIT: Also, I feel like if there was a reason he hasn't posted it yet, he would have said something.

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Just so you guys know, i'm not trying to twist peoples words or single anyone out here. Sorry if I came off as a bit antaganistic there, that wasn't my goal. All i'm saying is give people the benefit of the doubt if there is room for it :)

I'm sure anyone who doesn't put in an entry has a good reason. Its not worth worrying about. It sucks but it happens.

It's just been too long since I've heard some Willrockage and you usually clean shop in the compo so I was really looking forward to hearing 4 or so new songs.

SUCKS MAN.

You hurt mah feelins, mah butt feelins

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I don't think there's any harm in posting what's there. If it turns out he's waiting to put in Hak's mix, then we'll get it when Darke posts it. If not, then the link really should be up right now.

Because of that reasoning, I'll go ahead and post it until Darke updates the first page because he seems to be unavailable right now despite my attempts to contact him about it.

Zero Bracket Round 1

I took the link out of the first post because there was a mixup with hakstok's mix. Don't post a link to the file. :\

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Alright. Hakstok's mix is in now. I remember that he sent his mix on Friday. I just lost the PM when I was cleaning out my inbox.

Link is live and voting is go. There are six battles that you must vote on in this round. Voting ends Saturday at 2PM EDT.

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STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS CRITS

Amphibious (Hot Slice of Beast) - Love the smooth guitar, the progressions are badass, and the filtering is sweet. Feels pretty incomplete, but I wish you'd give it some more TLC and give this one some more meat dude, it's sounding awesome so far :)

Ningle Buckor (Nightmare Machinus) - Cool. Good work fixing the strings up, I remember them being really rough in the first few renditions you showed me, they're blended really well. The snare sounds really crackly, what's that about? The hats seem a bit loud at times too. Other than that, the production is pretty good. The guitar lead doesn't feel balanced very well with the rest of the soundscape to me, it's too quiet and gets a little lost among all the heavy tails on all the bell stuff. Damn, that ensuing solo work is the tits. Love the crackly stuff in the intro and outtro, just not on the snare... All the solo work is wicked sweet though, the instrumentation/soundscape is damn cool, and we all know that everyone needs a little metal in their electronic once in a while. Nice mix from a #1 handsi boy! :D

Gario (Race the Phoenix) - Seems quiet at first? Maybe it's just cause I'm at work surrounded by a sea of loud high schoolers being loud and dumb. Love the bass work in the intro though, not too distracting, just kind of like, low frequency hints on either side. Love the melodic work with Slash Beast. That freakin' lead is so cool, what is it?! PW square with a ton of reverb? Oh damn, chip solo is badass. PANNED PITCH SLIDES WHOOO. The integration of Blaze Heatnix is awesome. On a cursory listen, doesn't seem to be a whole lot of harmonic variation as far as progressions, but there's plenty of melodic work and other goodies going on

Hakstok (Infrared Ultrasonic) - Cool pad in the intro, filtered guitar is cool too. CHUGS. Not where I expected it to go at all from the intro, but I'm not complaining. This is damn cool, you worked the parts into an epic rock anthem pretty well. The bass might be a little quiet. Oooh nice bridge at 1:43. Yep, these sources either just fit what you were going for, or else you executed it beautifully. Nice work dude :D

Metal Man (Dephased Dissonance) - Whoa, thought we were going into some Metal Shark Player here for a second. Nice use of the Crawfish triplet motif for transitions. Orchestral hits come off a little cheesy, which isn't particularly good for the style of track you were going for. Transition to Flame Mammoth was a little jarring, I feel like you could've fiddled with the keys to make the integration gel a little more. Really cool drum work at 2:22, and I think well all know that I'm all about that. Some of the velocities with the snare don't quite work, take a look at 2:38; that quick snare ruff sounds like it's all at the same velocity, and doesn't sound realistic at all. Just something to look at for future reference, though I do really dig all the writing. Metal drums are fun :D Nice ending. Dug it aside from the medleyitis it suffers from

pixelwave (Breaking the Ice) - Bass is a little abrasive in the highs, almost TOO dirty. I wish the square arp work would've been brought out a bit. Not sure the bass was the right choice as a melodic voice at 1:07, especially when it drops down to that low note; it's barely distinguishable. The whole mix seems really quiet, I was thinking that was just an intro technique, but it never got any louder :/ Your lead is pretty cool, but it's stuffed to like, the far corners of the soundscape. This one's got some cool sounds and ideas, but it wasn't executed all that well. I'd like to see you throw this one up in the WIP forum and see where you can take it, it's definitely got promise, just not nearly enough polish on there

ProjectSpam (Dreamhorse) - Ah, this one's real harsh in the high-mids, especially that right panned piano (which is very odd in its own right (seewatididthar)). There's moments with some bad dissonance as well (the variety that just sounds sour as opposed to adding tonal complexity/leading to resolution and therefore driving a phrase). Same deal with pixelwave, cool ideas and promise, but the execution wasn't quite there. WIP forum, yes?

SilvernixSP (MASS Production of Sharp Scissors) - The slightly out of time stuff leaning on the backside of the beat in the beginning is cool for adding an organic feeling, though variation would make it feel more human. I can dig the blacksmith-pounding-to-make-scissors idea though, cool stuff. Man, I'm not even sure this thing HAS a tonal center. Or maybe it just has 12 :P The minimal soundscape giving way to a more aggressive soundscape is a cool idea, but you completely covered up your snare and bass with other sounds. The cymbals and hats are super loud too. Work with the panning of your instruments as well as stereo separation to clear up the center of your mix. I'm gonna suggust the WIP forum again, I'm sure lots of people will be willing to help you improve this one quite a bit

Theory of Nonexistence (Sting Chameleon takes a Bubble Bath) - Man, you guys need to work on your naming when you're mixing something with "bubble" in the name... I've seen like 4 different mixes over the past year about "So-and-So's Bubble Bath" or "Herpa-derp Takes a Bubble Bath" or "Phonetic Hero Needs to Take a Bath Because He's Stinking This Whole Goddamn Place Up." BUT ANYWAY, holy shit man. That SNES-y pad is wicked. The beat drop is badass. The instrumentation is awesome. Funky as hell, and all the chippy elements are hawt. Gotta love that chorus segment with the chippy lead and all the expansion on it. All kinds of musicality in this one, complex meter work, and awesome harmonies. This is awesome man :D Oh god, music box-y type twinklies? You know like, all of my weak points, huh? Man, 3:17, that 6/8 section is really facking awesome. Lawdy, keep doing all that meter fuckery. Definitely a super badass match up, awesome, awesome stuff from both of you!!

Oathands Ruckus (Electric Storm) - That bass is really cool man. I feel like you need to build up those first :30 to like, absolutely ridiculous heights, and then dial it back for the storm eagle melody entrance, the fucking WAIL for that Spark Mandrill entrance at :41 with high energy, aggressive drums, and more high energy synths. This one's definitely got potential for mega badassery, you just need to fill it out some more, and switch out some of those guitar synths :P You did a really nice job of meshing the sources though, especially in that first segment. I want more though, and I know you can do it. Throw it in the snake pit - I mean the WIP forum - if you want to polish this one up further

Trism (Reborn) - Sweet intro, holy crap. The laid back, half-time-y metal feel is cool, though I can barely hear what the guitars are doing; they're in dire need of some better producing. Cheesy Microsoft Sam clip doesn't really do it for me :P not much I can comment on for this one, because I can't really decipher what the hell is going on to be honest, haha. Synth outtro with Rosered's theme is interesting though

Yami (Air Cooled Magma Flow) - Low passed intro is cool, but it just refuses to go anywhere. It feels like the whole thing is intro material; I kept expecting a drop. Although I did really like the progression of the segment at 1:51 with the lead and bass. But then it gets a little weird. Needs more polish and direction man!

Zerothemaster (So Now Some Stuff is Happening) - Hmmm do I smell improvement? Whoa, not really sure what's going on at :55, but I'm pretty sure I like it. Not really recognizable source-wise, but still cool nonetheless. Ugh, that chip lead needs to not do that arp bend for every single long note, haha. It's cool in theory, just waaaaaayyyyy overused. Oh, hello dubstep. That section has potential to be really cool, but it's just too muddy to really hear what's going on. Oof, transition to some more Mijinion material around 2:53 was pretty rough. As well as the transition back into... Mijinion again? What the hell is happening?! Certainly an improvement from some of your other stuff though. Is it just me or is it really heavily laden with pops?

Sire_NutSworth (Chill Penguin vs. Armored Armadillo) - Nice bass work in the intro. DAMN that fist lead is cool, but the accompanying stuff that happens right after is WAY too loud and muddies things up a lot. That drop is badass though with some cool synthwork to go with. Cymbals are a bit loud too. Some of the voice clip stuff seems a bit harsh too. Not sure I dig some of the dissonant notes in the solo section either. I'm still a sucker for that Chill Penguin space arp though. Needs a lot more spit and polish, but not bad.

Would've liked to have heard all 16 mixes, but hey, I'll take what I can get :D Great remixes this round everyone!!

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Zerothemaster (So Now Some Stuff is Happening) - Hmmm do I smell improvement? Whoa, not really sure what's going on at :55, but I'm pretty sure I like it. Not really recognizable source-wise, but still cool nonetheless. Ugh, that chip lead needs to not do that arp bend for every single long note, haha. It's cool in theory, just waaaaaayyyyy overused. Oh, hello dubstep. That section has potential to be really cool, but it's just too muddy to really hear what's going on. Oof, transition to some more Mijinion material around 2:53 was pretty rough. As well as the transition back into... Mijinion again? What the hell is happening?! Certainly an improvement from some of your other stuff though. Is it just me or is it really heavily laden with pops?

I wish I didn't have to use the arp bend every note, but that's what the instrument did and I'm not proficient enough to figure out how to get it to go away.

I didn't think that transition was too rough, but who am i but a inconsistent derpstick

And it could be really bad popwise, I really need someone to show me how to master/final mix stuff because I always end up with either to quiet or too poppy stuff. I can't hear pops, which is really fraking annoying, and I don't want to just turn the mix down cuz then it's really quiet compared to everything else :(

also that dubstep part is a secret guest theme that I just stuck in there for the jollies of it. I wonder if anyone recognizes it :P

o hey i won yay for me

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Amphibious (Hot Slice of Beast) - Love the smooth guitar, the progressions are badass, and the filtering is sweet. Feels pretty incomplete, but I wish you'd give it some more TLC and give this one some more meat dude, it's sounding awesome so far :)

Yes it is pretty incomplete. I wanted to turn something in though, so I did as much as I could. I just got busy with a lot of life responsibilities so I couldn't put in the quality time I wanted. It also made it hard to mix the sources much because I didn't have time to really listen to them good.

Hopefully I have time to work on it more in the near future.

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Yami - Quite the minimalist approach. Everything kind of runs together. Maybe some percussive hits to help transition between sections?

Ivan Hakštok - Very nice! Got my attention right off the bat. The only thing that really bothers me is the whamy. Might just be me, but I feel like maybe it's bending the wrong way at times? I don't know, it just sounds more like it's detuning rather than tastefully pitch bending to me. Otherwise excellent playing.

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zerothemaster - lol, it sounds like you're trying to force that chip sound through my speakers and it just won't fit. Trn dwn pls. The first couple minutes are incredibly disorienting lol. Around 2:40, bass overpowers background stuff. I think the biggest thing this mix is missing are mids. It's all drums, bass, and lead. That works in some cases, but I don't think so in this style. I think there are some neat ideas in here. The problem is in the execution.

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Theory of N - Dude. So good.

Ectogemia - I'll let you decide if you want me to post my critique. I'll post afterwards regardless.

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Trism - WOOOOOOOSH! Clearly unfinished :P I'd like to hear this finished though. It's hard to critique something this wip-y. Nice job getting something down :D

ProjectSpam - That plucky sample in the beginning sounds like a sample from a MMX game. Hmmm...I'm feeling a loooot of muddiness. 0:48 there's a relatively quiet piano note that is very sour. Does it again at 1:04. I think your biggest issue here is production. Aside from those sour notes, everything seems to work pretty well.

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Amphibious - Sexy. Finish this.

Gario - Uh...badass. You need nothing from me.

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pixelwave - I love the retro style here. It's very quiet though. The drums sound like they're at the right level, but they sound pretty loud in comparison. I can hear parts of both sources, though very little.

Sir NutS - holy shit loooooooooooooudddddddd. Balancing needs some serious work. The noises at 0:48 made me tilt my head in confusion. I thought I had a youtube video randomly run or something in the background lol. Despite the balance issues, I like how you implemented the sources and you definitely did some neat things, so this got my vote.

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Metal Man - I'm not the biggest fan of metal, but this sounds pretty solid. I think it would sound more 3D if you brought the lead up a little bit. The mix sounds a bit flat.

SilvernixSP - bass is incredibly overpowering. The part that comes in at 0:40 is off tonally and rhythmically. More rhythmic splicing at 0:40. The way this is right now, The biggest thing I could tell you would be to EQ out some frequencies. Honestly, if you're not used to doing that, taking any frequencies out would help the mix I think. Make some room for a bg pad or something. You'd be surprised at how far that can take you.

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TheRexAsaurous - really interesting Castlevaniesque feel at first. Loving the bassline. This feels like it's missing a lot of mid as well. Ah, until the rhythmic pad comes in at like 1:40ish.

Seriously, nice work everyone! :D I realize that a lot of these suffer from time constraints, but to that I say: NOW YOU'VE GOT FOREVER TO FINISH THIS SHIT UP.

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Thanks for the comments Phonetic. Yeah the whole thing is pretty static, there's no work on velocities anywhere and I'd cut bits and bites in the guitars to overdub instead of going polypannedwtf.. and a few layers of pads to glue things could have been nice. That was a quick draft.

I can't comment on every tune but C1, C2, E2 and F1 really caught my attention.

And Gario, that lead sound starting at 2:40 is just like a Digital Insanity keygen. Epic

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Uh... I also sent mine on Friday, and I have an unconfirmed recepit too (like Hakstok).

I can't take a screenshot because I'm on a super slow internet, but I hope Darke checks his inbox again. I don't want to be DQ'ed like this.

Should I post the link here or just wait until Darke says something?

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Uh... I also sent mine on Friday, and I have an unconfirmed recepit too (like Hakstok).

I can't take a screenshot because I'm on a super slow internet, but I hope Darke checks his inbox again. I don't want to be DQ'ed like this.

Should I post the link here or just wait until Darke says something?

I'd send it to him again privately right now and then wait for him to respond in here.

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As I stated earlier, I decided to send the mix in before the final mix and master because I would fear I wouldn't get it done in time, and well it shows, so I apologize in advance to everyone's ears :).

I will still post a properly mastered version (which I'm working on atm) if anyone's interested, after the voting ends.

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I'm getting started on my track at work; Darke, what are your feelings on adding in non-Mega Man sources? I keep getting pulled toward multiple non-game/compo sources to make a ridiculous remix with 4 or 5 sources, and I think I'm probably going to for an OCR sub, unless you have STRONG feelings against it. The MMX sources would still be the highlight of the mix, there's just so many different things that keep calling out to me while I write out these different melodies and progressions and arps.

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I'd send it to him again privately right now and then wait for him to respond in here.

There, sent it to him again.

Hope I can be included in this round, since I actually did the track on time...

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I'm getting started on my track at work; Darke, what are your feelings on adding in non-Mega Man sources? I keep getting pulled toward multiple non-game/compo sources to make a ridiculous remix with 4 or 5 sources, and I think I'm probably going to for an OCR sub, unless you have STRONG feelings against it. The MMX sources would still be the highlight of the mix, there's just so many different things that keep calling out to me while I write out these different melodies and progressions and arps.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't mind more than the two given sources as long as the original two are clearly present. I mixed Schala as well as another source into my final WCRG track a/d DS didn't seem to mind then.

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I'm pretty sure he doesn't mind more than the two given sources as long as the original two are clearly present. I mixed Schala as well as another source into my final WCRG track a/d DS didn't seem to mind then.

I know I didn't mind. I listened to that remix the other day. I want your skillz.

edit: wtf, first ever double post. I am a pathetic human being.

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