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OCR01447 - World of Warcraft & Guild Wars "All Nations Rise"

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Oh how I loathe thee, even if your music is good.

Jeez...I mean...It just figures.

Anyway, nice orchestral arrangement, piano = lovely. Very full in the lower ranges though, which felt a little bit overpowering...but yeah...beautiful and moving. Also, some nice builds.

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I am so <3ing this.

Sadly, I have only completed a bit of Guild Wars, and never played WoW, so much of this is just 'good music'.

Halfway through writing this, I thought I had left the game on on my other computer again. Nice. :wink:

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Five amazing ReMixes in two days. The master DJP is too good to us.

EDIT: Uh-oh. This mix clipped a bit on my headphones. Although now I see that this is VBR encoded, and it drops down to... 96 kbps?!

Hopefully Wangless has got a version with a better bitrate on his site...

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I haven't actually heard it yet (just clicked the download button) but, WOO-HOO! New Wingless!

Okay, I've heard it now. Omegadonut ain't kidding. The bitrate's a little too low and there's quite a bit of clipping going on. The rate dropped into the 60's every so often according to my computer (but it's nothing too crazy to make it sound horrible though). It ain't the man with no wings fault though. There are, unfortunately, restrictions on ReMIxes.

All in all, really great sounding mix. I'm glad to finally hear something from the man himself again.

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Guild Wars is used in the first half, and World of Warcraft in the second half. The database only has the capability of associating a ReMix with one specific game.

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From what I know, something similar to the Stormwind melody comes in at 1:57 with different chord structure from the original. I don't know if a GW chord progression here is backing a guild wars melody at 1:57, but if they're both, awesome. Stormwind continues on.

The piano that comes in at 2:40 takes place of the original choir backing.

4:02 really reminds me of the cathedral district in stormwind, and stormwind continues.

I dont recognize any familiar take at 4:26 of WoW, but until the end of the song the song is laced with tidbits at its melody. So overall, WoW music is heard throughout the majority of the song as well. And from what people are saying about GW taking up most of the song, it looks like Wingless has done a great mixture of both.

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ARGH, dammit it Wingless, now the Guild Wars theme song is stuck in my brain again. Oooh, the memories. Oh, and nice work. I somehow knew you'd be the first to get that song remixed after we had commented about it in-game.

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I was really curious as to what a WoW mix would sound like. So much of the music is so rich and detailed to begin with...but this mix goes one better and kicks ass with two of the best songs from these games. Way cool.

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Just as usual, it kicks the ass.

The Wingless is a f***ing genius, and I'm very very angry because it is exactly the track I was remixing in a similar way until 5 minutes ago, when I discovered this jewel.

So errrr, my version of the Stormwind theme just went to trash, actually, Wingless' one far better.

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Oh, now you've gone and done it. What's sacred now, if people can remix modern MMORPGs like WoW? Next thing you know they'll be remixing the music from TV SHOWS or something!

P.S. good mix, and good luck getting Midway to notice you.

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EDIT: Uh-oh. This mix clipped a bit on my headphones. Although now I see that this is VBR encoded, and it drops down to... 96 kbps?!

I did the encoding.

You'll notice that many mixes, including the amazing Triforce Majeure, go FAR below 96kbps during VBR. It's not uncommon to set the minimum to something like 32kbps in fact. This was a very long mix and thus it was very difficult to encode without going over the maximum filesize, 6mb. Notice that the mix size is 5.8mb. I did everything humanly possible to maximize the quality while staying under that limit.

There is also no clipping. I made absolutely sure of that and ran it through three different kinds of analysis to check.

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The Wingless proves once again he's not just a man with a pretty website. His seamless blending of themes from Guild Wars and World of Warcraft is nothing short of beautiful, to put it mildly. A strong and steady piano leads the music for the greater part of the song, with a warm and complete string section filling out the sound perfectly.

The arrangment could be made even richer, in my humble opinion, with a larger dynamic range throughout the piece. It felt to me as though the difference between the quiet and the loud was, while certainly effective, not used to it's full effect. I'm not talking about Maurice Ravel's Bolero style dynamics, but I feel a larger range would work quite well with The Wingless' exception piece, particularly after the building sounds leading up to 5:06.

On the first few listens, it sounded as though there were some compression issues around 4:40, and again around 5:08. There appeared to be a small range of frequencies that sounded staticy. After a careful listen though, I can hear that it is actually a percussion instrument. Though I can't remember the real name, it plays and sounds like a washboard.

But I digress. The real story here is that The Wingless continues to make no compromises with his beautiful arrangment and production. Sir Colin Rex Davis take note: if one day you forget your orchestra, make sure you have a Wangless around.

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EDIT: Uh-oh. This mix clipped a bit on my headphones. Although now I see that this is VBR encoded, and it drops down to... 96 kbps?!

I did the encoding.

You'll notice that many mixes, including the amazing Triforce Majeure, go FAR below 96kbps during VBR. It's not uncommon to set the minimum to something like 32kbps in fact. This was a very long mix and thus it was very difficult to encode without going over the maximum filesize, 6mb. Notice that the mix size is 5.8mb. I did everything humanly possible to maximize the quality while staying under that limit.

There is also no clipping. I made absolutely sure of that and ran it through three different kinds of analysis to check.

Regardless, it does clip on my headphones quite a lot; even under the same settings, most of the songs I listen to don't clip so much, if at all. May I request a version with a higher bitrate?

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This is an excellent mix. I enjoyed it very much. Music from most of the more modern video games seem to be more challenging so it's good that there are those willing to take them on and succeed in excellent quality.

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EDIT: Uh-oh. This mix clipped a bit on my headphones. Although now I see that this is VBR encoded, and it drops down to... 96 kbps?!

I did the encoding.

You'll notice that many mixes, including the amazing Triforce Majeure, go FAR below 96kbps during VBR. It's not uncommon to set the minimum to something like 32kbps in fact. This was a very long mix and thus it was very difficult to encode without going over the maximum filesize, 6mb. Notice that the mix size is 5.8mb. I did everything humanly possible to maximize the quality while staying under that limit.

There is also no clipping. I made absolutely sure of that and ran it through three different kinds of analysis to check.

Um, it totally clips. Er, maybe it's not clipping? Maybe the little crunchy blips every so often are intentional? Maybe me and OmegaDonut just need better headphones? I don't doubt the mighty Zircon's ability, afterall.

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Maybe me and OmegaDonut just need better headphones? I don't doubt the mighty Zircon's ability' date=' afterall.[/quote']

Not when every other track I listen to sounds fine while "All Nations Rise" starts clipping like crazy.

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First of all, i'm very glad to see a new song by The Wingless. ^^ He is definately one of my favourite remixers on this site.

About the clipping, I can't hear that on my normal speakers but when I try listening on surround sound between twenty to fourtyish there is a slight crackling sound...It's not too bad since you can easily just switch around the settings on NvMixer to reduce that sound to almost nothing. Or atleast you can on my computer...

Comparing this with other mixes i've heard by Wingless I'd have to say this one rates around 8.5/10 for me. I especially like this mix because you can have it on repeat and it almost sounds like its just one long/never ending song which is great for just relaxing to.

Can't wait to hear some more mixes similar to this one and my friends at college can stop moaning that there arn't any World of Warcraft remixes... :lol:

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I really like this, but the clipping bugs the hell out of me. The mix starts clipping right at the beginning. I'm listening to this on my headphones and I hear clipping only in the left ear. My headphones aren't necessarily very good, but all other songs sound just fine on my headphones, and I'm pretty sure it's not my headphones if other people are hearing as well. I'm not too sure if it's the encoding or the samples, because I only hear clipping on the bells.

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Ah, i see now. When I listen on headphones, with my volume jacked, there is audible clipping, but its when my volume is maxed out.

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