zircon Posted March 25, 2007 Author Posted March 25, 2007 The issue is not that it's an unpopular theme, but rather... (1) The original version is already epic, and LONG. Shorter tunes are often easier to remix. (2) The Advent Children version is super-badass and that's a big standard to look up to. (3) Can you really do One Winged Angel in that many different styles? All that being said, we're trying to do a larger-scale collab on it - right now, Spekkosaurus is putting something awesome, with contributions by bLiNd. I'm looking to add on to it as well, as is pixietricks.
Fishy Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Every single point you made about that damn source is true. I started a Dream Theater style mix of it this morning. I kept thinking about how I need to change direction from the AC version. No matter what you do, you can't compete with a professional studio recording complete with full orchestra. Doesn't mean you can't try, but it makes you feel shite.
TheThoughtfulOne Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 I would love to hear some more of pixietricks... is she singing in the One Winged Angel colab? Cause I think it would be briliant to hear her singing the choir part in there. BTW does anyone have a copy of the lyrics and possibly a translation?
zircon Posted March 26, 2007 Author Posted March 26, 2007 So far, she's singing on an Anxious Heart collab w/ me and is interested in singing for OWA - but nothing is set in stone on exactly what she'll be doing. We are however getting a custom choir part for the track (full choir) She will probably sing on top of that.
TheThoughtfulOne Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 sweeeeet..... Another question, hows the album art?
KyleJCrb Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 sweeeeet..... Another question, hows the album art? My guess would be, it covers the album?
TheThoughtfulOne Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 My guess would be, it covers the album? ....haha... very funny, you guys know what I mean..... I hope..... >_>
Thin Crust Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 An entire live choir for One Winged Angel? How did you guys pull that one off?
Kanthos Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Zircon didn't use the word live. There are a few tools that, if used by someone with a lot of skill and a lot of knowledge about the human voice, can make a realistic-sounding choir from samples. EastWest Quantum Leap Symphonic Choirs comes to mind. Of course, everyone would rather have a live choir than samples, but Zircon didn't really say which option they used.
Escariot Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Every single point you made about that damn source is true. I started a Dream Theater style mix of it this morning. I kept thinking about how I need to change direction from the AC version. No matter what you do, you can't compete with a professional studio recording complete with full orchestra. Doesn't mean you can't try, but it makes you feel shite. Good luck doing a DT version of anything. Zircon didn't use the word live. There are a few tools that, if used by someone with a lot of skill and a lot of knowledge about the human voice, can make a realistic-sounding choir from samples. EastWest Quantum Leap Symphonic Choirs comes to mind. Of course, everyone would rather have a live choir than samples, but Zircon didn't really say which option they used. *suggests a large group of people from a meetup*
Steffan Andrews Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 In terms of choir, we are working the details out as we speak. I won't divulge any more details than zircon wants to have public at the moment, but rest assured it will be awesome. It's likely we will have pixie singing parts from the choir. It's also in the cards to have additional vocalists.
SwordBreaker Posted April 2, 2007 Posted April 2, 2007 It's nice to see that there are going to be sweet plans for the One Winged Angel choir. I wonder if it'll be in Latin or another language. If you need a real additional vocalist on that, I can contribute. I did a choir part before for LuIzA. Keep in mind that I know Arabic and English, not Latin.
Tenucha Posted April 2, 2007 Posted April 2, 2007 Lemmy guess... That Ice Cap Zone project thing was an April Fools, eh? Every single point you made about that damn source is true. I started a Dream Theater style mix of it this morning. I kept thinking about how I need to change direction from the AC version. No matter what you do, you can't compete with a professional studio recording complete with full orchestra. Doesn't mean you can't try, but it makes you feel shite. I love Dream Theater... though I only still own Train of Thought. Are you gonna host what you did with the track? I'd love to hear that version. One Winged Angel is THE song from FFVII. Though the whole OST was outstanding it's One Winged Angel that really has a certain flaire about it... and it shows when you listen to all the "cover" re-arrangements on the Advent Children OST. I just cant wait fo rthis project to be released!
Degree Posted April 2, 2007 Posted April 2, 2007 This project sounds very promising. I can't wait until it's done.
Kaden Posted April 2, 2007 Posted April 2, 2007 I have been waiting a while for this too. I actually forgot about it with all my pc problems lately but Now im back into watching this again. You guys are awesome and keep up the good work. I especially love that "teaser" of the Red XIII Remix. Awesome stuff. ~Kaden
Fishy Posted April 2, 2007 Posted April 2, 2007 I love Dream Theater... though I only still own Train of Thought.Are you gonna host what you did with the track? I'd love to hear that version. It wasn't worth hosting. I'll give it another shot in a few years maybe, lols.
Thin Crust Posted April 2, 2007 Posted April 2, 2007 So, is there a difference to the source tunes? Let me explain, RedXIIIRedux and Ascention to cosmo canyon seem to be based off the same song, but one is cosmo canyon and other is valley of the fallen star. Is there a difference? And if there is, are they both represented in this project?
zircon Posted April 2, 2007 Author Posted April 2, 2007 There's no such track on the FF7 OST called "Valley of the Fallen Star"... do you mean "Red XIII's Theme" vs. "Cosmo Canyon"? If so, the source tunes are very similar, except one has more melody and embellishments than the other. Both have been included in one track, the remix Sixto and I did.
Thin Crust Posted April 2, 2007 Posted April 2, 2007 There's no such track on the FF7 OST called "Valley of the Fallen Star"... do you mean "Red XIII's Theme" vs. "Cosmo Canyon"? If so, the source tunes are very similar, except one has more melody and embellishments than the other. Both have been included in one track, the remix Sixto and I did. Well, if you click RedXIIIRedux, it says the source tune is valley of the fallen star. http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00311/ on the right it says it under song(s) was it a mistake?
zircon Posted April 2, 2007 Author Posted April 2, 2007 I checked a couple MIDIs from a Google search of "Valley of the Fallen Star" and as far as I can tell it is identical to "Cosmo Canyon". Except "Cosmo Canyon" is the name used by the OST and PSF so I think the "Valley..." label is probably incorrect.
Thin Crust Posted April 2, 2007 Posted April 2, 2007 OK, thanks. Two things, PSF means...? And, will you or someone change it?
zircon Posted April 2, 2007 Author Posted April 2, 2007 PSF = Playstation Sound Format, basically the sound files that are ripped from the game. Kind of the Playstation equivalent of an NSF, GYM, SPC, or RSN. I'll ask Dave/Larry to look into it.
Daniel Rydell Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Chudah's Corner can probably answer this question as well... and they say... "1) Valley of the Fallen Star 3:36" They aren't usually wrong.
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