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Joshua Morse
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Hey all,

Lately I've been immersing myself in a number of web development projects. One of said projects includes something called OCR Genres. In short, I plan for it to be a supplemental website to OCR, providing a new way of searching for mixes: via genre. I've seen some demand for people wanting remixes to be categorized by genre, so here's your chance!

I need your help! To explain, OCR Tags allows for users to tag their favorite remixes via genre and elements. I still have a quite a bit to work on, but you can check out the site right here. Users can register and start tagging immediately.

I'd also like to welcome any questions / comments anyone has as I'm trying to build up an FAQ for the website. So let me have it!

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I hate to parrot the OCR policy here, but wasn't the genre search something that was left out on purpose? If you add a feature that allows you to search by genre, you'll obviously only look for mixes from genres you know you enjoy, so you will probably miss out on a lot.

What I like about OCR is that, apart from the whole remixing-of-game-music-business, an extremely wide range of musical genres is represented on this site, and it really opened up my musical taste for genres ranging from IDM to Acid Jazz. If there was a search by genre, I would have searched for Metal and be done with it, which is why I'm grateful for the lack of a search by genre, because it really broadened my musical taste. This is why I'm not really sure about the usefulness of this feature :/

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If you add a feature that allows you to search by genre, you'll obviously only look for mixes from genres you know you enjoy

that assumes that people enjoy only one or a few genres. also that same argument could be used for categorizing remixes by game, original composer, etc.

the way I see it it's the exact opposite. categorizing remixes only makes them more accessible. the way it is right now all the remixes I have are either from games I am familiar with or remixers I know I like, not including the ones I have found by pure chance. I don't really have time to go one by one through the archive so any means of categorizing the music is helpful.

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that assumes that people enjoy only one or a few genres. also that same argument could be used for categorizing remixes by game, original composer, etc.

the way I see it it's the exact opposite. categorizing remixes only makes them more accessible. the way it is right now all the remixes I have are either from games I am familiar with or remixers I know I like, not including the ones I have found by pure chance. I don't really have time to go one by one through the archive so any means of categorizing the music is helpful.

my windar is off the chart!!

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I hate to parrot the OCR policy here, but wasn't the genre search something that was left out on purpose? If you add a feature that allows you to search by genre, you'll obviously only look for mixes from genres you know you enjoy, so you will probably miss out on a lot.

You're correct.

Buuuuuuuuut, I for one would like to find what few jazz and rock mixes there are, since so many OCRemixes fall into the "synthesized melody, a new bassline, more drums, and strings added for no reason" genre.

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What I like about OCR is that, apart from the whole remixing-of-game-music-business, an extremely wide range of musical genres is represented on this site, and it really opened up my musical taste for genres ranging from IDM to Acid Jazz. If there was a search by genre, I would have searched for Metal and be done with it, which is why I'm grateful for the lack of a search by genre, because it really broadened my musical taste. This is why I'm not really sure about the usefulness of this feature :/

Have to agree with Tensei here. Just as he said, if there was a "search by genre" feature, I probably would not have even listened to more than half of the songs in my 2000+ mp3 collection. I love the idea, but I have a feeling that it will cause people to loose out on some really great music out there.

And not to mention, none of my songs will fit properly in a specific genre.:tomatoface: Also, there will be more songs in the "Other" genre than anywhere else.

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Well for all the haters out there, keep in mind that it's a 'supplement'. It's not changing the actual OCR site or it's policies. If you like it, use it. If not, nobody's making you even look at it.

I for one would like to see it, as I'm sure it will reduce threads on the forum asking for particular kinds of mixes. (How many times have we seen "Mixes with vocals/Orchestral mixes/etc?)

The more community resources the better, I say.

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I support this idea, number one because it's a good idea, and number two because it's not actually influencing the site.

As far as people searching by genre, how far they get into OCR is a personal thing. When I first came here in June 2002, I was looking very specifically for Super Metroid Mixes for a Powerpoint slide show I was doing. I came back in October 2002 looking for some Mario 64 Mixes, and downloaded Sunken Suite. I loved it, so I downloaded a BUNCH of DJPretzel mixes, as well as a lot of Protricity. After picking and choosing mixes/games for a few months, I finally began downloading every mix posted to OCR beginning in mid 2003, and still do to this day.

The point is I came in with very specific ideas about what games and artists I wanted to hear, branched off from there, and it's turned into a 6 year musical adventure. I don't see how it would be different if I'd come in with a specific genre in mind instead.

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Giving users an easy way to find remixes they'll like can only be seen as a good thing. That said, I like your site and I think OCR should sponsor it somehow (not that I have any pull around here). If a new user can log on and find a remix in a genre they like right away, they're more likely to stick around looking for more remixes.

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I've always hoped someone would put in the time to do this.

Have you considered incorporating a rating system as well? I have a few ideas of how to avoid the problems that plague other sites that have attempted to do so and would be reasonably easy to put in place.

A rating system would be fantastic. Wait, I've got a better idea. Let users post whatever they want and we can all comment on it!

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Funny I was just talking about this last night.

Ever since I've been here I've always wanted there to be a search by genre feature. However, at first I saw some problems, the main one being it would be a heck of a lot of work for djpretzel to go back and label every single mix as a specific genre, plus there would be ReMixers who aren't around anymore and/or don't want to classify their ReMixes as a specific genre. However, I think we could make it work. I know I would be a willing volunteer to help with this, and we could have an "Unspecified" category for those who can't specify/don't want to.

People are saying that classifying by genre will limit people to searching only for their favorite genres. While this is true in some cases, it won't be for all, and I really think if they listen to enough of their favorite genre they'll think, "Well, maybe this whole website is great!" and will search for others. That's what I did. :)

I fully support this idea and hope others do as well.

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I don't know if any other remixers feel this way about their stuff, but I personally object to the classification of any of my mixes under a specific genre. A lot of the reason I make music is to get a sound I find interesting or unusual, the purpose being to not conform to the rules of any set genre. The idea of someone else putting a label on it makes me really uncomfortable and seems like it might encourage more remixers to conform to a specific genre instead of developing their own ideas, which I think is very counterproductive.

I know this thing is just a supplement to make it easier for listeners, but I still find it unsettling as an artist and therefore I can't say that support it at all.

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Well for all the haters out there, keep in mind that it's a 'supplement'. It's not changing the actual OCR site or it's policies. If you like it, use it. If not, nobody's making you even look at it.

I for one would like to see it, as I'm sure it will reduce threads on the forum asking for particular kinds of mixes. (How many times have we seen "Mixes with vocals/Orchestral mixes/etc?) The more community resources the better, I say.

Hit the nail on the head!

Have you considered incorporating a rating system as well?

No. I don't feel a rating system would be beneficial or even work in this community. I feel that it would promote cliques and elitism. I also feel that people's personal feelings would get in the way of a majority of the ratings (I.E. I don't like this remixer as a person therefore I don't like this remixer's arrangements so I'll give them all a low rating).

I don't know if any other remixers feel this way about their stuff, but I personally object to the classification of any of my mixes under a specific genre. A lot of the reason I make music is to get a sound I find interesting or unusual, the purpose being to not conform to the rules of any set genre. The idea of someone else putting a label on it makes me really uncomfortable and seems like it might encourage more remixers to conform to a specific genre instead of developing their own ideas, which I think is very counterproductive.

I know this thing is just a supplement to make it easier for listeners, but I still find it unsettling as an artist and therefore I can't say that support it at all.

Understandable. As a musician, if I voiced my discontent about my arrangements being used in a project I didn't agree with or support, I would expect the person running the project to respect my wishes. So I can exclude your remixes from the site if you don't want them to be included. The same goes for any other remixer who feels this way.

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