The Vagrance

I can't wait to hear it. I love how at the first listen it sounds a little bit typical of the genre but after a little bit of time you start to realize how awesome his stuff is. Also, I forgot to mention earlier that the song I'm most anticipating from the Prodigy release is "Take me to the Hospital", which sounds absolutely brutal: That sad Omen is also growing on me, IMD is still shit tho.

They did have dancers since day 1 and have since gotten rid of them, but they were definitely crowd-pleasers more than anything. Maybe not in a strictly "let's make as much money as possible" way were they out to please but they certainly were aiming to please people.

Ah, same page now. Really I can't see electronic music being anywhere near the mainstream for any time soon; it certainly had a chance recently but I'm pretty sure the hipster scene killed that chance.

Relevancy completely matters, as their older stuff pretty much defined the Old-School and Big Beat genres. Granted, relevancy doesn't necessarily lead to great music but part of their legend is how much they defined a time and a sound. I wouldn't call all club hits of the past few years disposable, as there have been quite a few instant classic-type DnB tracks that came out ("Together", "The Distance", "Skyscraper", "Drop it Down", "Still Grey/Spiral/Vault"). I doubt Pendulum will hold relevancy seeing as how they don't anymore in the DnB scene (even those who still like them will admit they're not DnB) however Noisia is poised to stay as is Logistics, London Elektricity (though he's been around for goodness knows how long), and all of the other old legends that still got it (Dieselboy, D Kay, Calyx & Teebee to an extent, Break), not to mention people who are up-and-coming that have potential staying power (Mistabishi, Brookes Brothers, etc.). That said, all I know about is the DnB scene and electro house is definitely pretty stagnant, though I will admit it is fun to listen to sometimes and I really like what Trentemoller (oh god I love Trentemoller), the Swedish House Mafia, and some of what's coming out of Ed Banger Records (though their shtick is kind of getting stale). I also agree that AONO wasn't a terrible album, I wouldn't call it amazing by any means but "Girls" is such a heavy tune. To say they're not in it to please though is SO not true though. I mean, they used to have dancers in the group, as in people who didn't do much but play a couple of notes then dance all over the place.

Sounds alright, but I'm approaching their new album quite skeptically. Invaders Must Die was pretty terrible and this track is treading the thin line between fun cheesy and just bad cheesy. Doesn't help that they've kind of fallen off the relevancy map. I'll give their new one a good listen-through or two but I'd be lying if I said I was expecting something outstanding, that said its definitely a good sign for the future of the Prodigy.

Yeah, I kinda got lazy with that. I think I'm going to take out the rap, however I'm going to leave in the "Thoughts inside begin to stutter" parts just because I like it quite a bit. Any other comments?

I talked to zircon about this mix so there are a lot of refinements that'll probably happen to this mix but this'll definitely get finished; I've spent way too much time on this for it not to.

Thats why I like last.fm so much more, because not only does it seem to have a better recommendation algorithm but also because it knows what you've listened to, so it knows not to recommend it to you.

Not Pandora but I've gotten into Edan, Busdriver, and These Arms Are Snakes because of last.fm

Pretty much all Sinewav said is true, especially the networking part. The music business is ENTIRELY about networking and meeting new people, including local bands; hell, what do you think this site's purpose is? Being a skilled piano player is one part of it but you also have to be sociable with other band members. A lot of bands - especially high school bands - don't care nearly as much about the individual skills of other players. I'm in a high school band and every other band I know including the one I'm in is just a group of friends who happen to like music; most famous bands start out with a couple of friends who play music together then branch out. In other words, go out and socialize more at local jazz clubs and shows and stuff. The more people you know, the more likely they'll play.

That sucks, but there's always something slightly delightful about losing everything; like you're not bogged down by useless projects anymore.

I'm almost always up for projects, just because I get to have more fun with the remix than normal since I'm not worrying about pleasing the judges.

I really need some more thought on this, Hylian Lemon's been the only person who has commented on it since the first version.

Absolutely lovely, shows a lot of restraint that most others don't quite grasp. I especially love the section that goes on from about 1:40-1:55. You managed to do something amazing with such little source. Anyway, I think I'm done brown-nosing for now; good work.

I'll probably enter, but mainly to test out my new laptop rig, and by that I mean I'll be producing during school

Not much to say about this since its an intro, though I would say that you should cut out everything after about 0:30 and instead have drums and a nice fat acid-ey bassline drop in. Iono, there's quite a bit of stuff you could do with it from there.

Ask and you shall recieve: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ztegrol2mzz Now with 100% less rap.

UPDATE: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zxwzh3wzfoz Trying to off any VGRemixes I haven't finished this weekend, including this one which is one of my favorites. Added a lot and the arrangement is pretty much finished, so hear it all for yourself. I kinda hate that I now have two songs with rap breakdowns but this one feels better than the Zelda one, I must say. The breakdown is inspired a lot by the Prefuse 73 song "Life/Death" which features Mikah 9, which can be heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4O6BYW0YBQ

NEW UPDATE: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zkdwdjq2jiw Arrangement is done(?), needs more mixing work but almost finished; WOO!

EDIT: Never mind, whatever, can we stop talking about FLStudio now?

tbh I've been kind of unimpressed with a lot of it. Aside from Ableton 8, everything I've seen has had a "oh thats cool I guess, but how useful will it be?" reaction from me, especially the Maschine and new Waves plugins. The joys of no desire...

Definitely not true, although one feature in Live that is REALLY nice is that you can "freeze" tracks where it takes most of the CPU load off of the track. Its also way easy to just record the track and use audio instead, all lifesavers in a Live setup. I don't know why this discussion is still going on. You guys like FL so that's your deal, some of us like Live so that's ours. FL is extremely specialized, so while it may do some things better than Live, Live is suitable to a much wider range of people, or people who want to do a wide range of things. Apples and oranges.

Live is aimed more at people who use a lot of audio as well as MIDI, whereas FLStudio is mainly aimed at MIDI. The step sequencer and all of that takes up a lot of screen space that Live instead uses for the arrangement. Call me a liar or weird but I find it much easier to do drum tracks in Ableton than in FL. Its all personal preference, and a lot of the reason people don't like FLStudio as much is because they don't work with MIDI nearly as much as someone such as you. Its a wonderful program if everything is being done in the box, but Live's audio manipulation is some of the best out there, probably second only to Pro Tools, and probably a better choice than FL in that regard (unless said person just loves FL's style of doing things).

Its actually about that easy in ableton, although done slightly differently. Browser on the left-hand side, previewed instantly, create an impulse track (or I have a default set open with 3 already set up - one for kicks, snares, and hats), drag in samples, create a MIDI track, drag out the MIDI track as long as desired and split the MIDI track where you want to add a variation, that way everything is still nice and lined up. Ableton's workflow is remarkably quick once you wrap your head around it, because it is set up similar to a typical DAW yet there are a lot of tweaks to it to expediate the songwriting process. FL's is very very quick as well, but it doesn't feel as stable as Live and the way Ableton handles everything in one window (a godsend when producing on a laptop) is very nice as well, not to mention the way the plug-ins are set up are more intuitive to me than FLStudio. But blahblahblah, it doesn't really matter though because you obviously use FLStudio to great effect and I attempt to use Live in the same manner; and Live 8 gets me giddy like a little kid