Liontamer Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Aight, so for anyone that's not seen yet, new search engine hotness Cuil ("cool") officially launched yesterday, founded by some ex-Googlers. Did some searches on it though, and, at least right now, it sucks. From their info page: Rather than rely on superficial popularity metrics, Cuil searches for and ranks pages based on their content and relevance. When we find a page with your keywords, we stay on that page and analyze the rest of its content, its concepts, their inter-relationships and the page’s coherency.Then we offer you helpful choices and suggestions until you find the page you want and that you know is out there. Let's take VG composer Tim Follin for example. I guess I shouldn't complain, since OCR is the first result...and the sixth...and the tenth. But Cuil pulls up images it's obtained from God knows where in order to spice up the results, and the images frequently have jack to do with anything and aren't obtained from the resulting site in the first place. Half the time, it doesn't even pull up useful stuff. It ends up giving top results from a lot of shitty, out-of-date sites that just spider Wikipedia. I'm sure they're going to work on improving the search results, but I gotta say, if it's gonna stay like this vs. Google's "reliance on superficial popularity metrics", give me the superficial popularity metrics any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirby Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Yeah, I don't really like the layout and results and stuff. Maybe it will improve with time, but right now I'll stick with google. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I read about this as well (and the complaints). I'm with ya, google works pretty well for me still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-n-j-i-n Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I think competition is good. Also, what's the point of critiquing a brand new search engines? They are almost never good when they first start. Google was horrible in its first year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Stunna Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Ha, I just searched "Super Smash Bros. Melee" and got no results: http://www.cuil.com/search?q=Super+Smash+Bros.+Melee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 I think competition is good. Also, what's the point of critiquing a brand new search engines? They are almost never good when they first start. Google was horrible in its first year or so. That would be quite the valid point if the company's hype wasn't that it was a better search engine than Google from day one on account of indexing more pages. Of course, we haven't heard anything official from Cuil yet reacting to this disaster, but they've pretty much have to say what you just said in order to save any face now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabberbox Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I think cuil has some potential, but it will take a lot of work to get it running like it could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarZander Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Ha, I just searched "Super Smash Bros. Melee" and got no results:http://www.cuil.com/search?q=Super+Smash+Bros.+Melee If you remove the period it will find a shitload. Yeah, searchengines are like wine. They need to age before using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike911 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 ... waiting to invest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 1 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I'm not much getting my hopes up; many search engines have tried to provide competition, but without much success. That said, the internet is a place of many firsts; only time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaFone Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I searched high and low for a Super Mario RPG rom on Yahoo. I was just about out of hope when I thought "Wait a sec...maybe, just maybe, Google will have one if I look hard enough..." First page, first article, there it was. Google will forever be my greatest love. Screw that...quil...cueel? Yeah, like that'll catch on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starla Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I agree, the name is kind of a loser from a marketing standpoint. When you have to explain how to pronounce it you lose steam imho. I really don't like the layout either - it looks like a wall of advertisements to me. I will say though that the predictive text is nice as well as having the option to click to the next page without having to scroll all the way to the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jago Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Aight, so for anyone that's not seen yet, new search engine hotness Cuil ("cool") officially launched yesterday, founded by some ex-Googlers.Did some searches on it though, and, at least right now, it sucks. Agreed. I tried it from work today, and I was not impressed. Most of the images that came up had nothing to do with what I was searching. Maybe Cuil will improve over time, but Google is my top pick for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 So, how long until requests for information and or apps get a mandatory "www.cuil.com" response? Sounds like a while from what I'm hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Xyco Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 All it needs is a jazzy marketing campaign and site will be golden. Mark my words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollgagh Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Ugh I hate the layout I hate multiple (equal attention) columns in websites I just tried it and it literally gave me a headache just looking at it. The idea behind it is neat, I guess, but right now it's completely unusable to me as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
po! Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 If you remove the period it will find a shitload. Yeah, searchengines are like wine. They need to age before using. it doesn't work for any words that end with periods, like any abbreviations. like dr. or ave. or bros. ... pretty lame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkspast Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 um... Why? Could someone tell me why there is a need for another search device? Maybe I just dont understand search engines, but Google works fine for me and about everyone else out there... and I can say it aloud with out a problem.. I guess I can see some potential for business but.... really.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulinEther Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Who knows why we need another, but a search of soulinether and yousef reda proved that Google knows me better. However, Cuil is obsessed with a youtube video I uploaded, and so are a ton of other useless sites as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Xyco Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 um... Why? Could someone tell me why there is a need for another search device? Maybe I just dont understand search engines, but Google works fine for me and about everyone else out there... and I can say it aloud with out a problem.. I guess I can see some potential for business but.... really.. Google has roughly 40-45% of the market share regarding search engines. That's one company, one process, one algorithm, one idea assuming a commanding lead in the market. It's pretty easy to chip away at something that large without being noticed. By the time you are a threat, it's too late to stop you. Not saying that Cuil is in any position to de-throne Google anytime soon, but I would assume this is the reasoning behind it's founders. I can guarantee you'll start to hear about it more from various alterna-geeks. Google is everyone's friend -- some people will go against it just for the sake of being different. You put a good marketing strategy behind that, and you could settle in quite nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzumebachi Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Yeah I don't think I like this search engine. I decided to search for myself just to see what it came up with. The very first result was a page that included my full name, my home address, my home phone number, my age, my last job, and a map with accurate directions to my house. You know, just in case someone wanted to kill me in my sleep. I'm not usually a paranoid, or even very private person, but you gotta draw the line somewhere. Also it seems to be really inconsistent because I just searched again and now the first result is my OCR remixer profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfoot Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 ... waiting to invest... Seriously. I remember when google was only 100 a share, now it's like 600 or whatever. I haven't checked in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulinEther Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Yeah I don't think I like this search engine.I decided to search for myself just to see what it came up with. The very first result was a page that included my full name, my home address, my home phone number, my age, my last job, and a map with accurate directions to my house. You know, just in case someone wanted to kill me in my sleep. I'm not usually a paranoid, or even very private person, but you gotta draw the line somewhere. Also it seems to be really inconsistent because I just searched again and now the first result is my OCR remixer profile. So you're telling me I can type that name right there and find out where you live? Edit: Damn. I don't see it. (well, it's not like i was going to visit you.. .......yes...well-played, yousef..... must get him off of our tracks... and ourselves some donuts... and ... what's that? .....but i've grown so fond of agua de jamaica........ fine, you get the horchata and i'll take the jamaica... no, i won't let you have a sip this time.....pay attention! you're looking foolish right now.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I did a search for "cuil", and was given a geography lesson, however in the first 13 pages of search results I skimmed over, not once did I see the webpage of the search engine itself listed. I mean, I know what I'm going to find when I google Google... If your going to start a search engine, then you might as well list yourself... EDIT: Cuil is an old Irish word for knowledge. For knowledge, ask Cuil. Ah, I suppose that's why I got the geography lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirby Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I have concluded based on the posts about this from 2 different forums that Cuil blows chunks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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