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OCR00984 - EarthBound "Bus!"

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Groovy little piece. Wonderful ska-esque guitar sound and the organ solo really rocks.

But...while shortness in and of itelf isn't bad, this particular piece feels very undeveloped. Developing the rhythms and melodies of this mix might have produced a much more satisfying sound, as is, it just feels a tad incomplete.

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That picked bass is a little too heavy for my likings ... Sounds a bit like FL's BooBass preset with too much treble. Having said that, it's a fairly solid mix. The percussive part has been put together well, gotta love that snare. The guitar is out of tune, though. I can understand that guitars go out of tune every now and then, but if that's artistically out of tune, never do it again. Not saying the guy's knocked it out of tune on purpose, but I have heard suggestions from people in Remixing 101 to do this to make it sound "live" (it doesn't make it sound any better/cooler, it makes it sound terribly amateurish). On my 4th listen or so, I've noticed the percussive part really shines in this tune, and that organ is a wonderful touch.

For a first mix, this is good stuff. Well done, Shadow.

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I have to agree with Israfel on this one. While the mix itself is very nice, this sounds more like a WIP than a posted mix.

With that said, it IS a posted mix, and a very nice one at that. I do feel like the guitar part is a bit too loud because of how repetetive it is. (Repeating is not bad: see Dreamer =P) Nice work! :nicework:

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Aww man. As soon as I start gettin into this it's over. Oh well, what's there sounds fantastic. The bass doesn't seem to fit, but the fact that a guiro makes an apearance makes up for it. Organ solo is the best part. It seems like at some points there could have been more you know? Call me crazy, but someitmes it just feels... empty. I think you did a good job with the guitar and trying to make it sound like a surf song (typical surf whammy bar-ism at :43). Good job overrall.

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I don't agree with anyone saying this sounds like a Work in Progress.

I've been listening to this for months now ( :roll: ) and I think it's just as great as the first time I heard it.

The only thing I would have done would be add a whammy bar and a solo.

This is really faithful to the original, and I think it's a great little ReMix. No real need for critisism - I think Shadow knows what he's doing.

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Most excellent. I can't help but love this track; the peppy-as-hell guitar wins me over every time. All we need now is to see an official release of Funky Bookas :P

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This is exactly what the Bus theme in Earthbound would have sounded like on a system with a better soundchip. The title is perfect too....this is everything I need to feel satisfied that the Bus theme from Earthbound has been given its proper respect and treatment.

The bus theme itself was short, didn't develop overmuch, and just packed awesomeness in a little box, like this mix does.

Fantastic!

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EXCELLENT!!!! 8)

The shortness is fine with me. Many of my favorite songs are short (as in under 2:30).

The bass could be better, but everything else is top-notch. Instant classic.

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As soon as this tarted I was like "Awesome... SURF!"

It definitely has a very good surf-like sound that we don't hear on OCR too often. I wish it was longer, with a little more variation..... but oh well. It still rocks.

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I like this remix. Yes, it's short and sticks closely to the original, but that's what makes this a perfect remake of the original song. The instrument samples are nice quality too. I was thinking the exact same thing as djpretzel, it really does sound like it came out of Pulp Fiction. Nice work, Shadow.

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k, first of all, thanks for all the criticism and what-not.

now to address everyone's replies or something.

Israfel: Undeveloped, okay. I guess I could've added more variation and progression through variation with the percussion, though I tried to do a small bit of progression with the percussion, it isn't completely noticable.

skulkrusha: I'm a fan of heavy bass, and I think others have said it should've been more punchy and picky and stuff, dunno though. Also, it isn't BooBass, it's a really nice soundfont, though through the entire mix it's noticable qualities do get drowned out. I tried to up the treble a bit to give focus on the unique timbre and quality of the bass soundfont. The guitar might've been out of tune cause I usually play very hard and go nuts...I did tune it with my keyboard though and my ear is pretty good... though next time I'll use my electronic tuner if this dissatisfies you. And the percussion that you like so much is free akai samples from ftp://ftp.akaipro.co.jp (very hard to get into, and when you do it's VERY slow.)

Starblaze: I tried to put as much work into it as possible, perhaps people could've given me better input in the WIP forum when I posted it there :PPP. And actually, I feel the guitar feels a little drowned out with the very defined bass and the source material is repetitive, and I wasn't exactly thrilled about adding a solo or anything, I don't like to do live stuff all the time cause I feel that machines can be more accurate and consistent. Yeah.

Noodleface: Sorry about the length, but it was hard to stretch out the very short, repeating song :P. The organ, it wasn't a soundfont or the B4 (awesome organ synth,) it was another free Akai sample that I thought completely fit the song. The bass... I dunno, it was my favorite bass soundfont at the time and stuff. Glad ya liked the guiro, it's from the free e-lab samples of their sample CD's (heh;) it's in one of the 100bpm packs. I think I sliced it up or something or granulized it, to fit tempo. As for there being more, I guess you're right but I have no idea what I could've added or changed.

Mustin: Heh, if anyone was wondering how he got this song, he popped up in #earthbound on dynastynet (starmen.net's official channel... ) and I saw him in #ocremix before so I thought I'd get his opinion on things. Anyway, yeah, hey Mustin. I see what you mean about the whammy bar, I can imagine that being in there because of the whole mood the song sets, but I'm not very enthusiastic about solos, though I have done some... somewhere, heh.

HalfShadow: You're only half the shadow that I am, hohoho!

Spacecow: I might've submitted Funky Bookas, but it still needs some production work, e.g., the second big crash where everything plays near the end is dampened by the B4 organ or something, anyway, that's for another topic.

Dj Orange: When I made this I only had soundfonts at my dispense, so that's what you're gonna get. I have Spectrasonics Trilogy now though, it has amazing Upright Bass sounds and decent electric bass sounds which would sound superb through amplitube. Maybe I should do a rehash of this song sometime in the future with all of your suggestions? I could be "HOLY CRAP I CREAMED MY PANTS ON THAT BUS!!@" Tee hee.

bartkusa: Heh, I never thought of the name/length in that way, heheh.

Al: yeah, the bass might've drowned out the middle/low-middle frequencies, but I just loved that bass sound at the time so much, and I felt that the guitar didn't need focus in that area, it sounded fine to me at the frequencies it occupies.

bonerdude: lost on ideas for variation and making it longer, etc. k?

Jakob: omgplz man, like stfu ;D

Okay, that's about it, I think. If you have any comments or criticism that you'd like some answers on, just email, IM, or PM me. kthxbye.

Update: After re-reading the Guidelines for this board, I might as well tell you what I used and why I made this.

I used Fruityloops, free Akai samples, free e-lab samples, miscellaneous soundfonts scattered across the web (you can find my favorites at http://shad.starmen.net/storage/soundfonts ... ) tons of VST(i/2)/DX effects (Waves Platinum Bundle [TrueVerb, RVerb, C4 Compressor,] BBE Sonic Maximizer, Fruity Parametric EQ's :P, and Amplitube [!!!],) and my crappy Crate guitar directly plugged into the line in on my soundcard and processed with amplitube (don't laugh, got it for my birthday when I was little and haven't had the time or money or resources to upgrade to a decent guitar.) I also may have used T-RackS 24 standalone in post-production mastering (though I now have T-RackS VST.) Dunno what else I used, k.

I started working on this remix while looking through Earthbound SPC's, reviewing my favorites and memorables. I happen to stumble upon the Bus theme again and found it very damn catchy and thought the SNES audio-chip just didn't do it enough justice. So I set out to do my own rendition with a badass "Ohhhh Yeah..." feel to it. And after a little hard work and brooding, I released this remix.

Yeah, okay, that's about it, I think.

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Bus! GROOVY! Earthbound was one of my favorite games back in the day... Shadow did this tune justice here.

This is exactly what the Bus theme in Earthbound would have sounded like on a system with a better soundchip.

-Klondike

I was thinking the EXACT same thing as I listened to it. Everyone's saying it's true to the original... and I think all those comments are dead-on! Keep in mind that this song wasn't meant to be a standalone work of epic proportions when they put it in the game. While someone like Russell Cox might have turned it into one and made it sound damn good, this is one instance in which I'd go with shadow's call and just leave it as the novelty tune that keeps you occupied from Onett to Fourside. =)

As for the controversial bass... I thought it was just a little overpowering. Maybe it's just my huge freakin' subwoofer, but at 0:12 when it enters, it gives the song a much heavier feel that disrupts the initial impression that it's going to be primarily light and bouncy. Oh, it was perky and bouncy, but if the rest of the song had kept just the /light/ peppiness of those first 12 seconds... it would have been different, for sure. The guitar is jammin' though... and I appreciated the good quality of all the instrument sounds too. I drooled over that snare when it's nice and exposed at the beginning. The guitar is live? I thought it was just a really good sample, as others apparently did too! Nothing wrong with that though.

Bravo!

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Jakob: omgplz man, like stfu ;D

omfg no way d00d. And I just realized that we haven't spoken much on AIM lately. I need the SHADOW UPDATE.

Anyway, that's a hell of a lot of text up there...:0

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This sounds more like just an updated cover, which I love about it. The ska rythum is excellent and this shows that shadow is the mastermind behind playing EB tracks with his gitter.

If only the organ solo was longer and there were some original melodic sections and I wish the song would keep going twice without fading out since the groove is excellent. But shadow's more a man that says "quality first, and novelty second." Explains why he didn't like my Battle 8 Remix.

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ok, first off, I've always loved this song, one of the first remixes I downloaded when I came here a cpl years ago.

But also, has anyone noticed that in The Strokes' song- "Juice Box", their baseline is exActly the same as the intro to the bus theme! I wonder if any of the Strokes have ever played Earthbound...

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Not a huge fan of the bass, but I do like everything else. I'm sort of glad to see this be a remake and not a mix with a lot of liberties taken. One because I think the theme benefits a lot from its straightforward design and length. And had this mix been 4 minutes, my attention span would not be very leniant.

There's some nice surf jammin' sounds here, but not a whole lot more. If that's the sort of stuff you enjoy, and I do, then there are much worse ways to spend 1 minute 45. Plus, the title is one of my favourites on the site. Exclamation points are coming back in a big way!

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