Aprentis Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 amazing song you made here man, the guitar is effing kill. soo good i was just wondering if you could make a tab for this song, id love to learn how to play it on my guitar. keep up the good work man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoom Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 This mix just made me smile. The arrangement here is absolutely great. And honestly, the technical areas where it falls can be ignored quite easily. Good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman53 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 This was by far the most amazing song I have heard yet. It's smooth and it flows beautifuly. Not to crazy, and it sets a mellow mood. I love how it picks up around 1:44. Awsome remix man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboPanda Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Hey, I would like to say kudos to you, man. I've heard 50,000 ways inside and out to do that damn schala's theme, and you really helped me out in your remix of one of my favorites tunes. Gives everyone a sense of hope, eh? Get knocked down and you just have to stand back up. But yeah, I really liked listening to this mix. I can understand a couple parts where the guitar pickings are better heard than the notes (as a player I dislike that sound...). But other than that you've done a great job fiddling with the tune and making it absolutely "teh 0wnz0r!!11" Ha, wanna jam together sometime?! Congrats. I like it. 9/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weggy Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 This mix really is great. It's one of few Chrono Trigger mixes I actually like =D Fantastic mix to a fantastic game. Congrats Neil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDogMan Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Congrats on finally getting it up, Neil. Do you know something we don't? Anyway, this is a good song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Hudson Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 LET'S REVIEW THE SONG NOW! As far as the song actually goes, I liked the song. I don't hear too many acoustical arrangements for CT. It may be a little simplistic, but I had it playing as I was just walking around the room, and I enjoyed it..as a nice little piece of music. Nothing mind blowing, but certainly above par in my book. Not bad Jared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 O yeah... seems i forgot to review This has become my favorite remix 10/10 love it... I always loved TFAT so im kind of biased.... Congrats Neil, hope to see more from you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter_Stardust Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Usually I'm not one who likes mainly solo instrument mixes, (like one that is just piano, for example). Or in this case, acoustic (Sp?). But in this case I must say this one is rather pleasing to listen to. The guitar is well played, the song was a good choice, and although some parts DID have to be changed to "fit" said instrument, I personally think it worked rather well. It makes me think of a song you'd hear at the beginning/ending of an epic mini-series (no offence to the remixer is intended in that statment, you know, if they don't like mini-series.) Nice accompaning music in the background. Not to bold or "IN YO FACE" blaring like so many other mixes I've heard. Once again, in closing, I think this is a rather pleasing mix to listen to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpretzel Posted September 28, 2004 Author Share Posted September 28, 2004 It's unfortunate that this review thread turned into more of a discussion about the judging process, panel, and apparently my inadequacy as a human being for deciding (yes, voluntarily) to not attend school-sanctioned social functions, when the idea is really to let Neil - and others - know what you liked or disliked about his mix. I feel it's important to clarify, however, that my explaining the process behind the approval of this mix was not at all meant as a jab at the panel. They're doing a hard job, and doing it well, and will continue to do so, and if everyone was happy all of the time it would mean they weren't doing their job and were probably dispursing free narcotics of an uplifting nature. Usually, when there's a significant debate on the panel, I *do* feel the need to explain what it was all about to the general public in mix write-ups, so these accusations of clandestine behavior and being secretive and closed are unfounded. We post decisions for everyone to see. Without further eroding the thread into a tangent that bears only tenuous relations to Neil's piece, I want to be absolutely clear: nothing about the process of evaluating the initial submission or resubmission of this mix lowered the judges panel in my estimation. Quite the opposite, I think "episodes" of this nature are necessary to keep debate alive and to keep people on their toes. Posting "good music" is too broad a mission for almost any website. Our mandate is that we post music that honors original video and computer game soundtracks by interpreting them. That doesn't just mean fancying up the samples or adding a loop. If this type of evaluation were easy to make, there'd be no need for a panel whatsoever. It isn't. Furthermore, some people would honestly RATHER just listen to the original piece with fancier samples. We're not saying there's anything fundamentally evil about that, it's just not what OCR happens to be about. Fortunately, a consensus was reached that this piece doesn't fit that description, but don't blame the judges for evaluating mixes based on the criteria they are instructed to evaluate against. If you don't like those criteria, blame me, because I'm the one who will keep them in place as long as it's my decision to make, and who believes in them. Better yet, don't blame anyone, but acknowledge that different websites serve different purposes and audiences, and don't hold that against any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 First of all, I would like to address this particular mix. After all, this is a review board. The mix almost sounds like it was meant to be on Chrono Cross soundtrack. Acoustic guitar, ethnic percussion, strings - all sound great. The mix builds up great around 2:23 before it takes a break. I really like the variations. What really makes this mix stand out is the mood it creates. Sure, the note at 3:32 sounds a little questionable, yes drums are a bit repetitive, but there is a lot more depth to this mix that makes those issues nearly irrelevant. Great job Neil! As for the OCR selection and judging system: It works. The process is meant to be highly selective. It's the selectivity that makes this site the premiere video game music site on the internet. I am sure if DJP had a problem with the judges, he could handle it on his own. And besides, this mix was approved by the judges, so there should have been no argument in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Wily Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Review: Very relaxing guitar all the way through, reminds me of sitting in a cafe, with nice ambient guitar drifting through as I'm having a chat with friends or perhaps enjoying a game of chess. Almost the perfect background music! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Xyco Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 All this arguing aside.. I liked all the aspects of this ReMix, with the teeny exception of the percussion, which seems more flawed to me more than the other parts. I'm no music major, I just play an Alto Sax (badly, at that) but the percussion at times seems to conflict alot with the other parts of the track. Most notably would be the cymbal roll around 0:44 that leads into a steady rhythm. It really came off to me as something notably not sounding right. But I'm basing that purely on how it sounds to me, there may be nothing actually wrong with it and I might be tone-deaf. The same roll comes again at around 1:35 (and elsewhere), but the strings overtake the conflicting sounds. I'm not saying that they were used as a cover-up, the strings sounded very natural and fluid, just that something didn't really fit in the puzzle. Other than that, I'd say everything is awesome. Great piece. It sounds to me like somehting they should play at the end of a comic drama movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JdeFalconr Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 well I wanted to put my two cents in on this one--I don't know much about all the judging fiasco that went on with this one but I for one am glad that this mix made it to the primetime. It's a beautiful piece to begin with and I very much appreciated this remix. Well done!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100_PERCENT ROEMER Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I LOVE the guitar. Kudos to you Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_X Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 oh wow. I love acustic songs. Love the vibe they put off. There many others on OCR? I'd like to hear them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoom Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 this songs great, not sure what all the problems in the judge panel are if this only had a few changes over the original. awesome acoustic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostLilMartian Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 A beautiful remix of an amazing song. Easily one of my favorite ending themes, and this remix just adds to the emotion. The acoustic guitar creates a very warm and secure tone; just the kind of thing you might want to hear after a hard-fought battle to save the world! Thank you for this song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Mage Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 A new favorite. This song is simply beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatos Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I love remixes that keep relatively close to the original track like it is the case here. My favourite ct remix now and as dont-know-anything-about-music listener i dont notice any flaws in the track (blame me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodygetshurt Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 aprentis, i'll try and put together a tab sheet, but it might take a while; i haven't had any musical training whatsoever. i can't even name chords, for pete's sake i just play by ear. plus i have a 10 hour night shift job that takes up all my time. i'll post when i'm done with it. thanks again to everyone for your compliments and critiques. that includes the judges; they know what they're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawke Edge Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Wow, that was an incredible piece. I don't know what to say, I feel kind of speechless.. and I'm late for class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Hi. I love you. Bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aprentis Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 aprentis, i'll try and put together a tab sheet, but it might take a while; i haven't had any musical training whatsoever. i can't even name chords, for pete's sake i just play by ear. plus i have a 10 hour night shift job that takes up all my time. i'll post when i'm done with it.thanks again to everyone for your compliments and critiques. that includes the judges; they know what they're talking about. if you did i mihgt just confess my love to you . thatd be so rad dude, it doesnt sound like there is any chords in there though, just 1-2 strings but thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Yeah, the instruments were definitely not of the greatest quality, but that really didn't detract from the mix much at all for me. The only truly greating note was the first time I heard the sequence around the 3:30 mark, but the line right after it actually resolved it quite nicely for me. On the repetition and subsequent listens, while it still may not sound particularly pleasant to my ears, it at least 'made sense'. Other than that, a solid peice, nothing really 'wow' about it, just a nice, pleasant listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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