AngelCityOutlaw Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 That would be great if it wasn't for the fact that the Z-Men movies kind of suck. Even the best of them is still pretty lame.Also, the Wolverine movie kind of ruined the whole prequel thing. It was just so random and poorly written. This has to be a reboot, which would be very welcome. The wolverine movie made me nerd-rage the hardest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Your reasoning would be correct, except for the fact that there was one in X3.It hasn't always been a teaser for what is to come next, as you have seen in the recent Marvel movies such as Thor and Iron Man. Two examples right off the top of my head are 1) once again, X3, and 2) Daredevil. No, that's not what we're talking about. Iron Man 1 and 2, Hulk and Thor (and of course, Captain America when it comes out) all have stingers that hinted at the next movie in the current Avengers movie series. X3's stinger was just a follow-up to something they foreshadowed earlier in the movie. It didn't mention, showcase or hint at anything to do with any other Marvel based movies, just as the two FF and 3 Spider-Man movies didn't connect to each other. They're separate universes, where the other characters and events from each series don't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmadonRK Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 This has to be a reboot, which would be very welcome. No more %$&^ing reboots! What they did here was exactly what the film industry needs to do everywhere else. "Okay, we screwed up badly with X3 and Wolverine, so let's keep going, but let's get it right this time." And then they did. Beats the living hell out of another sorry, unnecessary, money-grabbing reboot. For that, I applaud them. When they made a mistake they picked themselves up and powered forward. Compare that to Spider-Man 3 - "Oh !@#^, REBOOT! REBOOT!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 No more %$&^ing reboots!What they did here was exactly what the film industry needs to do everywhere else. "Okay, we screwed up badly with X3 and Wolverine, so let's keep going, but let's get it right this time." And then they did. Beats the living hell out of another sorry, unnecessary, money-grabbing reboot. For that, I applaud them. When they made a mistake they picked themselves up and powered forward. Compare that to Spider-Man 3 - "Oh !@#^, REBOOT! REBOOT!" I may be reading this wrong, but the first two lines clash with each other, considering that this definitely was a reboot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moseph Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I may be reading this wrong, but the first two lines clash with each other, considering that this definitely was a reboot. My sense from the movie was that it wasn't intended as a reboot. The opening in Poland is pretty much a shot-for-shot re-creation of the opening to X-Men 1, and the constant cuts between locations also seems to be a throwback to the storytelling technique of X-Men 1 -- I think the location titles even use the same font. And Xavier's pickup-line about mutation is almost exactly what he says in the opening voice-over to X-Men 1. On the other hand, there are small inconsistencies, such as Xavier saying in X-Men 1 that he was 17 when he met Magneto whereas he meets Magneto in First Class after finishing a doctoral dissertation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyXIII Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 So apparently this movie is amazing. I haven't seen it and wasn't all that interested by the previews, but people whose opinions I respect say it's pretty fantastic, soooo... As someone you've never met I will corroborate your friend's opinion with my own - it is indeed pretty fantastic. Regarding the ties to Iron Man, Avengers and all that, I understand that Oliver Platt's character is actually supposed to be that reference. He doesn't have a name, after all, he's just "a man in a black suit." And Moseph, who says Xavier isn't 17 when he gives his doctoral thesis? He is a pretty smart cookie, after all, eh? And they definitely tie it into the continuity of the first 2 films what with one particular mutant Charles and Erik try to recruit but has no interest whatsoever in joining them, as well as when Mystique briefly ages herself. And if absolutely nothing else, Bryan Singer helped write the story and served as a producer on the film, so this this was kind of his stepbaby or nephew - that is, not his own project. I reckon they're all pretending X3 and Wolverine: Origins didn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnetic Ether Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 And Moseph, who says Xavier isn't 17 when he gives his doctoral thesis? He is a pretty smart cookie, after all, eh? In the credits there are two actors for him: One for 12 year old Xavier and one for 24 year old Xavier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyXIII Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 In the credits there are two actors for him: One for 12 year old Xavier and one for 24 year old Xavier. Well, shucks... In other news, the original score is top-notch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Sounds Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 On the other hand, there are small inconsistencies, such as Xavier saying in X-Men 1 that he was 17 when he met Magneto whereas he meets Magneto in First Class after finishing a doctoral dissertation. Not to mention the way Xavier becomes paralyzed in this film, which clashes with the Patrick Stewart iteration being able to walk in the X3 opening flashback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moseph Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Not to mention the way Xavier becomes paralyzed in this film, which clashes with the Patrick Stewart iteration being able to walk in the X3 opening flashback. I didn't catch that since I've been putting off watching X3 on account of how terrible everyone says it is. I rewatched X1 last night after seeing First Class (and actually didn't like it as much as I'd remembered) and will watch X2 again, so I'll probably just go ahead and watch X3, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelCityOutlaw Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Apparently there is already a sequel planned. Also, has anyone here read the "X-Men: First Class" comics from a few years back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnetic Ether Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Apparently there is already a sequel planned. I thought they already had 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkeSword Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 And then they did. Beats the living hell out of another sorry, unnecessary, money-grabbing reboot. For that, I applaud them. When they made a mistake they picked themselves up and powered forward. Compare that to Spider-Man 3 - "Oh !@#^, REBOOT! REBOOT!" The Spider-Man franchise needed a reboot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazygecko Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 The Spider-Man franchise needed a reboot. No it didn't. All we needed was a sequel to the Raimi Spider-Man, without Spider-Man in it. It would only star JK Simmons as Jameson and his office antics at the Daily Bugle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadofsky Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Just watched the film, and absolutely loved it. I'm not much of a Marvel fan (quit reading after Civil War series) but I will say they got the dynamic between Eric and Charles perfect. In terms of continuity with the comics, I've let go of the whole, "be accurate to the page". I recal watching Sin City, and being bored with it (though i did enjoy Mickey Rourkes story). We won't ever have a time were the films are all 100 percent true to the source. Im in agreement with Spiderman, there's no need for a total reboot. They could do a Incredible Hulk type reboot (show how everything started within a few minutes), besides, we all know how it happened. I'm hopeful for the néw Spiderman film, the guy who did 500'Days of Summer is making it if I'm not mistaken, and that was a pretty good film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelCityOutlaw Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 The 2003 Hulk film was so awful they "re-booted" it just 5 years later.....and it was still awful. Quit with the re-boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 The newer Hulk was way better than the first one. It was the movie that killed Ang Lee's career, and set back comic book movies a few years. Hell, I'd rather watch both Fantastic Four movies right after each other than watch the first Hulk movie half-way through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkeSword Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Im in agreement with Spiderman, there's no need for a total reboot. Did you see Spider-Man 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 On the other hand, there are small inconsistencies, such as Xavier saying in X-Men 1 that he was 17 when he met Magneto whereas he meets Magneto in First Class after finishing a doctoral dissertation. or the whole emma stone thing and moira meeting and other things im sticking with reboot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadofsky Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Did you see Spider-Man 3? Yeah, I did. Again, there's no real need to reboot Spiderman. Most everybody knows how he becomes Spiderman, same goes for Superman, we don't need a complete retelling of it, we know how Superman becomes who he is. Although, I can understand WHY they're rebooting Superman, it's been almost forty years since the first movie, and Singer didn't do anything special with Superman Returns (I did like Brandon Routh as Superman though). I honestly don't believe that Zack Snyder was a good choice to redo Superman right now, until I see a trailer, then I will try to stay positive on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyXIII Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Did you see Spider-Man 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5!D34RM Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Anyone else seen the movie yet? For me it's on another level when it comes to all these recent comic book movies. The source material is taken seriously, the writing is fantastic and moving, the acting is top notch, and the SFX are amazing. I wasn't a fan of Thor (I guess Hensworth's Pecs don't have power over me), and after seeing this movie it just made me want to say "THAT'S HOW YA DO IT!" Not since Inglorious Basterds have I wanted so bad to immediately get a movie on Blu-ray. I will admit it was a bit long, but it's not LotR long at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropicdecay Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I didn't think it was super but it certainly wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to seem. Magneto was fuckin' rad though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Sounds Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 It was decent. I'm glad they chose to focus on a handful of mutants and not the usual 9000+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_NutS Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Decent Movie. Certainly nothing spectacular but indeed entertaining and one of the few decent superhero movies. Magneto was indeed boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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