KyleJCrb Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 What were the terms set by SE? If we haven't already shared specific information, then we are not going to be able to share it. So, nobody should expect any kind of breakdown or details regarding our discussions with SE. So yeah, we're never going to know.
Brandon Strader Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Well there WAS this, at least: http://ocremix.org/forums/showpost.php?p=877788&postcount=1308
Thin Crust Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 I just have to know. Are they going to charge royalty fees?
Unununium Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 I just have to know. Are they going to charge royalty fees?I imagine this will be itemized in the Kickstarter writeup so that people know what they're paying for.
Melbu Frahma Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Fair enough reaction from SE and glad it was resolved amicably between them and djp.Not impressed with kickstarter not being able to resurrect the old one. This x100.
Unununium Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Not impressed with kickstarter not being able to resurrect the old one. To be fair to Kickstarter, the original deadline has already passed, so resurrecting the pledge drive now will surely confuse a lot of people who are expecting that their credit cards, etc. aren't going to be charged. All donors would have to be contacted individually to obtain their consent. The easiest and best way to do this would be to start a new Kickstarter drive, giving everyone an opportunity to "opt-in" again using the normal mechanism. However, it would be nice to send out a mass mailing or such to all previous donors to let them know that we're back in business. Kickstarter may not have this facility.
BooDidley7 Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 However, it would be nice to send out a mass mailing or such to all previous donors to let them know that we're back in business. Kickstarter may not have this facility. At the very least, they should've sent a message to every donor that there was an issue with the campaign, and that it was on indefinite hold pending resolution, OR that the campaign would be cancelled, and no charges would be incurred, etc, etc. Instead, nothing. It's really pathetic, especially considering Kickstarter is taking 5% of the fees of every project. http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/creators#WhatFeesDoesKickChar I'd almost like to see OCRemix use someone else, just so Kickstarter doesn't get 5% of what's raised, after all this.
Hyperion5182 Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 At the very least, they should've sent a message to every donor that there was an issue with the campaign, and that it was on indefinite hold pending resolution, OR that the campaign would be cancelled, and no charges would be incurred, etc, etc.Instead, nothing. It's really pathetic, especially considering Kickstarter is taking 5% of the fees of every project. http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/creators#WhatFeesDoesKickChar I'd almost like to see OCRemix use someone else, just so Kickstarter doesn't get 5% of what's raised, after all this. Yep, This is among many reasons why i'm not for Kickstarter after this debacle.
swansdown Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 I'm so glad you were able to amiably work things through with Square! Really, that's impressive negotiating. I hope more people donate now, knowing what you've gotten through.
The Legendary Zoltan Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Alright! Congratulations to OCR guys for settling the problem. I'm going to redonate for sure. I want that physical copy!
Brandon Strader Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Maybe in light of how much money can be expected (if you still expect to hit that level), physical copy could come with a $25 donation? I see this passing 80k easily, especially if given the full 30 days
ZiriO Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 I am so excited that this has finally been sorted out. I've been waiting to be able to throw down the cash for this! Thanks for all the hard work and for keeping us posted. No matter what I'm looking forward to seeing the fundraiser kicked back into high gear again!
Dark_T_Zeratul Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 To be fair to Kickstarter, the original deadline has already passed, so resurrecting the pledge drive now will surely confuse a lot of people who are expecting that their credit cards, etc. aren't going to be charged. All donors would have to be contacted individually to obtain their consent. The easiest and best way to do this would be to start a new Kickstarter drive, giving everyone an opportunity to "opt-in" again using the normal mechanism.This is pretty much why I don't really see the point in vilifying Kickstarter over this.
zircon Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 You're assuming that we contacted them after the deadline had passed.
Lampje4life Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 How much money was raised before it went down? Was it close to 100k? If so, let's break the barrier
Fishy Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 This is pretty much why I don't really see the point in vilifying Kickstarter over this. I'm not vilifying Kickstarter, I just don't understand how they don't have enough control over their own system to not be able to reinstate cancelled projects with a new deadline. Especially if said project has been service-ticketed within the lifetime of the original deadline. They take a pretty percentage for not doing a lot as it stands.
zegota Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 I'm not vilifying Kickstarter, I just don't understand how they don't have enough control over their own system to not be able to reinstate cancelled projects with a new deadline. Especially if said project has been service-ticketed within the lifetime of the original deadline.They take a pretty percentage for not doing a lot as it stands. Exactly. It shouldn't be difficult to change "status=" from "inactive" to "active," and "deadline=" to whatever the new deadline will be. But apparently their code is a pile of spaghetti. Oh well, onward and upward.
Mirby Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Exactly. It shouldn't be difficult to change "status=" from "inactive" to "active," and "deadline=" to whatever the new deadline will be. But apparently their code is a pile of spaghetti. Oh well, onward and upward. Maybe they up and deleted the old one? I dunno.
SamuraiFoochs #Reload Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Welp. I had posted a $50 donation for this project and plan to do so again (and possibly more!) whenever the issue gets resolved and a working solution is found somewhere else. Props to EVERYONE, from djp to zircon to Square-Enix for working so hard to come to a solution. Whatever the case, I look forward to donating again and HOPEFULLY getting a physical copy of what I'm positive will be a stunning product.
Brandon Strader Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Eh I knew it was dead waaay back when I contacted their support and they told me my pledge was cancelled and that "we don't comment on cancelled projects". As soon as the new one pops up I'm looking forward to pledging again. Git-r-done!
Mirby Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Eh I knew it was dead waaay back when I contacted their support and they told me my pledge was cancelled and that "we don't comment on cancelled projects". As soon as the new one pops up I'm looking forward to pledging again. Git-r-done! hello hipster strader "i knew it was cancelled before it was made official"
SwordBreaker Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 If you want to deactivate the payment, go log in at: > https://payments.amazon.com/ > Select "Edit My Account Settings" > Select "Manage my payment authorizations" > Click "Details" and then "Cancel Authorization" So it's official then. Too bad about the old KS. I scrolled back so I could perform this action just in case. Until the new KS then! Looking forward to pledging. The curious cat in me would love to have these sort of discussions between Square-Enix and OCR public, but I understand if you guys don't want to get into what sort of "reasonable agreement" you both got to.
Kennedy Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Nice to see things resolved. ...and congratulations OCR. I anticipate your original concerns will prove to be fruitful now that you are able to work directly with the copyright holders. This may be the beginning of a new venture for OCR in licensing and selling our hard-working musicians music! Provided that you have SE permission on similar works in the future, this is greatly beneficial for EVERYONE^_^ I'm very happy to see things moving this direction. Please let me know if I can ever help. I'll be sure to send out a message to all my old PMM subscribers. This is definately worth the shout-out. Cheers! ^__^
Otakatt Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 hello hipster strader "i knew it was cancelled before it was made official" If you've heard of it, it's too mainstream for me.
Melbu Frahma Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 I understand if you guys don't want to get into what sort of "reasonable agreement" you both got to. I highly doubt it's a case of "want" tbh. The staff has always been very good about sharing what they can, when they can. At any rate. Looking forward to the new KS - I'll pimp it out to all my acquaintances just as hard as the old one!
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