MindWanderer Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Everyone likes being voted for, and who knows how next round will go. He put in the work so it's no problem that he gets the votes. Unless people hate my entry so much they'd prefer the sweet sound of silence.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Strader Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 Yeah I'm considering switching my vote for Sixto. It'd be the first time someone who didn't participate won their round! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esperado Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 at first glance, i think this matchup will be really fun! seems like the two would make an interesting matchup. as i get into mixing though, ill have to see. If i beat hoboka, that would mean i beat a posted ReMixer in direct competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimpazilla Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 ShaggyFreak, your track is in 11/8??? Whoa.... dat groove! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindWanderer Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Reviewz0rz! Barrett vs. Amarant: Both sources are characterized by a sort of meandering melody with a lot of "white space" in between, which means they go well together but picking out individual pieces of melody is tricky, especially when they're at all liberally arranged. I usually treat source usage as the most important factor in these things, but this time that's hard. The Only Uncertain Thing is I worked as hard as anyone!: Nice soundscape, good epic buildup. Balance is off, the melody is sometimes buried. Good effort at trying to make the brass sound decent, but it's hard and this isn't there. Pretty good job of making use of those minimalist-ish melodies. Gun-Armed Bandit:Soundscape is lacking in the low end, and the instruments are kind of crummy. An exposed solo instrument in the intro needs to be really, really strong to work, and this isn't. Horse-clopping transition from ethnic to 9-bit kind of comes out of nowhere. However, the arrangement under all those production issues is actually pretty good. [*]Kain vs. Beatrix: I thought these two sources would go together really nicely, having similar scale and melody usage (if different time signatures), and a catchy hook, but clearly both remixers had a hard time. Skies aren't for Us: There are a few dissonant notes that really leap out at me. Interpretation of Kain's theme is pretty liberal, I have a hard time hearing it even knowing that it's there. Beatrix's theme underruns it really well, though. Overall a little repetitive. Great production, though. Loss of Sorrow: Fun noodling with Beatrix's theme in 4/4. Accompaniment and bass sound oddly incompatible with the melody, which is quiet at times. Once again, Kain's theme is hard to hear--the notes are there, the first loop through, but the beat is heavily modified to the point where even listening for it, it took me two tries to catch it. And then the second time through it's arranged and even harder to pick out. I always advise people to put in one "straight" use of a theme somewhere in their mix, preferably early on, so people can train their ears as to what to listen for to catch the more liberal runs through. [*]Freya vs. Sazh: Sazh's theme is a bitch. Side Effects of Afro Include Memory Loss: Very quiet. Using Freya's theme as a bridge worked reasonably well, and I can't say I blame you for not integrating the two themes any better than that. Really long into and outro. Also very monotonous, no change-ups to be found; these two facts combined make for an unfortunately boring remix. SazhaFreyaSazh: Good integration, better sound quality. That sax is really horrible, though, sounds synthetic and grainy. Overall sounds really low-fi--I don't know if that's intentional, to sound like an old jazz recording, but without tape or record hiss it just sounds bad. The arrangement is actually pretty good given Sazh to work with. [*]Basch vs. Vivi: Once you pick out Basch's melody, it's actually pretty similar to Vivi's. Lots of possibilities here. Fulminating Darkness: Interesting stringed instrument in the intro, I can't place it. In the intro it sounds great, but when it returns it has a terrible EQ problem. Beautiful rock ballad thing going on. Good use of the sources, they really do sound like they belong together. Unfinished Wizardry: Wow, this is loud, especially that bass. Sounds like a hell of a lot of clipping. I don't really hear any melody. And... yeah, that's about it. [*]Locke vs. Lenna: Really similar melodies here, if different energy levels, and it helps that they for once are on the same console with similar instrumentation. LOCKEDUPLENNA: I'm... really just not sure what to make of this. Some interesting and creative, if unpleasant, sound usage, but is there supposed to be a melody here somewhere? She Stole His Heart... Then His Wallet: Lead viola sounds pretty artificial, and really brings down an otherwise solid mix. Interesting in a good way twists on the melodies, right in that sweet spot where recognizable meets novel. I'm guessing this is Lenna multiclassing into "Treasure Hunter" rather than "Thief?" Good transitions between the low- and high-energy sections, much better than my attempts to do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshaggyfreak Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Good integration, better sound quality. That sax is really horrible, though, sounds synthetic and grainy. Overall sounds really low-fi--I don't know if that's intentional, to sound like an old jazz recording, but without tape or record hiss it just sounds bad. The arrangement is actually pretty good given Sazh to work with. I did want it to sound a bit more on the old side and I agree that giving it a more 'tape' sound would help in that respect. I also agree on the sax sound as it does clash with the vibe of the rest of the piece. I have XPRTNovice already lay down some real sax tracks and it helps out tremendously but I didn't get that mixed in in time for the contest. As far as giving it more of a tape sound, I think I may just have to run it through my reel to reel deck to dirty it up a bit. ShaggyFreak, your track is in 11/8??? Whoa.... dat groove! It switches back and forth from 5/4 and 6/4 with a fairly quick tempo around 180. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Strader Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 I think you should adjust the mix before running it through the tape reel, but that is an AWESOME idea. I might give you some thoughts later on, after the round is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshaggyfreak Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I think you should adjust the mix before running it through the tape reel, but that is an AWESOME idea. I might give you some thoughts later on, after the round is over. A lot of the low-fi sound that you're hearing is mostly from the organ. There are things that I can do mix wise that give it a bit more life, though. I already have some ideas on that myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaReaper Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 A lot of the low-fi sound that you're hearing is mostly from the organ. There are things that I can do mix wise that give it a bit more life, though. I already have some ideas on that myself. Maybe you can revamp it and send it to Brandon as a bonus track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garpocalypse Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Just to make things even more confusing what are the chances that fallen characters can be brought in as guest characters for the people who survive the round? i.e. Your theme+ 1 Guest Character's Theme VS. Opponent's Theme? A guest character can only be used one time and must have been defeated in a previous round. A guest character cannot make up more than 30% (or whatever) of the total remix. A Guest Character's third condition. To be figured out. Maybe. Just to add a small twist to future rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshaggyfreak Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Maybe you can revamp it and send it to Brandon as a bonus track? For those that want to listen, here's the revamped version with XPRTnovice's sax and I just now did a bit of tweaking to help glue things together a bit more. https://soundcloud.com/theshaggyfreak/sazhafreyasazh-sazh-vs-freya-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrapplingHook Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Reviewz0rz! Locke vs. Lenna: Really similar melodies here, if different energy levels, and it helps that they for once are on the same console with similar instrumentation. LOCKEDUPLENNA: I'm... really just not sure what to make of this. Some interesting and creative, if unpleasant, sound usage, but is there supposed to be a melody here somewhere? We didn't get to the melody because this was incredibly unfinished. I was gonna have Locke's theme come in piece by piece, going from highly distorted to very clear, which would "energize" Lenna's theme and there'd be some back and forth before they melded toward the end. Even if I'd had the time, I'm not sure I could've done it, but there you go. The part that exists is scraps of Lenna's theme trying to surface and being unable, and the very beginning of distorted Locke popping in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaReaper Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 For those that want to listen, here's the revamped version with XPRTnovice's sax and I just now did a bit of tweaking to help glue things together a bit more.https://soundcloud.com/theshaggyfreak/sazhafreyasazh-sazh-vs-freya-1 I want it, can you put a download link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKa Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 at first glance, i think this matchup will be really fun! seems like the two would make an interesting matchup. as i get into mixing though, ill have to see. If i beat hoboka, that would mean i beat a posted ReMixer in direct competition. A posted remixer who needed to piggyback a better one to get posted. Your chances are higher than you think, but that doesn't mean I won't throw down with the best of it. Better put your best effort into it boi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollow Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The part that exists is scraps of Lenna's theme trying to surface and being unable, and the very beginning of distorted Locke popping in. pop and Locke I haven't had a chance to listen to all the tracks yet but I look forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yami Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 If I really go with my first semi usable WIP I'm currently doing, I will have done something completely different than I've done before... First I thought the two themes would fit together more nicely than I now realized... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Side Effects of Afro Include Memory Loss: Very quiet. Using Freya's theme as a bridge worked reasonably well, and I can't say I blame you for not integrating the two themes any better than that. Really long into and outro. Also very monotonous, no change-ups to be found; these two facts combined make for an unfortunately boring remix. I appreciate the honesty man. I knew submitting it that it suffered from some serious problems that I wouldn't really be able to fix without an overhaul, not helped by putting this together at basically the last minute. At that point, I was just satisfied that I at least got something in and that it wasn't the most horrible thing in the world. I will note the quietness was unintended. That was a result of me being a relative n00b at mixing with modern DAWs as opposed to using notation software for making GM MIDIs as I used to, and not thinking to normalize my track compared to volume levels in most other music. It's supposed to be significantly louder. Since it's far too late to resubmit, I'd just advise people to turn up the volume on their MP3 players for the time being. *shrug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avaris Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Hey guys I found out I have zero access to the internet while on vacation. Had to wait 15 minutes to get on the general computer at the hotel. I won't be back in the states until late Saturday! Sorry I can't listen to anyone's tracks yet. Thanks and good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chernabogue Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Anyone playing sax or trumpet here? I could use live recordings instead of shitty samples. That'd make my remix listenable at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuberz McGee Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 [*]She Stole His Heart... Then His Wallet: Lead viola sounds pretty artificial, and really brings down an otherwise solid mix. Interesting in a good way twists on the melodies, right in that sweet spot where recognizable meets novel. I'm guessing this is Lenna multiclassing into "Treasure Hunter" rather than "Thief?" Good transitions between the low- and high-energy sections, much better than my attempts to do the same. Thanks man. I tried my best! But yeah, it's actually just a solo violin. I should really learn to play the damned thing so I can record stuff like that easier. That, or just talk to all of the Violin majors at my university to help me out. The problem being that I'm FAR too arrogant to ask for help! Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindWanderer Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Ugh, my computer is randomly freezing up, and just burned out a graphics card. Hopefully it holds up long enough for me to churn out another round. I'm putting together a new machine, but I'll probably be getting a bunch of the components on or near Black Friday, too late to mix that week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chernabogue Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I found time to write an arrangement. Is someone offering live sax/trumpet? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimpazilla Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I found time to write an arrangement. Is someone offering live sax/trumpet? Thanks! Did you write to Joe? (XPRTNovice) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chernabogue Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Did you write to Joe? (XPRTNovice) I just did. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Strader Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 How is everyone doing? Not much time left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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