watkinzez Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Beat Zelda in 49 hours with around half the sidequests. What's worse is that the character animations and other cut-scene stuff is done so well, it would be near perfect with voice acting...Regardless, I did not expect Twilight Princess to be this damn good. What a pleasant surprise. The only problem with VA is if its done poorly, as it often is in English localisations, it can kill a game. However, games like Dragon Quest VIII and Final Fantasy XII have proved to have excellent VA. Looking back I still think any sort of voice acting would have hurt the game. Why? Think of any game similar to Zelda that has voice acting and tell me its a better game. Beyond Good and Evil. Highlighted the emotion in the story; probably the best use of voice acting in a game I've ever heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Although, the absence of VA in itself does hurt the game too. Perhaps if all the characters (but Link of course) spoke a sort expressive gibberish. I really liked the gibberish Midna spoke after all. Evolving that seems like the logical next step. No... Midna's made-up language enforced the idea that she is alien to the world of light. Her appearance, her origins, all that is held together by her strange language. To use that for everyone else would detract from Midna's character overall and lessen her appeal and impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFu Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 THE GAME IS AWESOME. IT IS AWESOME. I LOVE IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverStar Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Although, the absence of VA in itself does hurt the game too. Perhaps if all the characters (but Link of course) spoke a sort expressive gibberish. I really liked the gibberish Midna spoke after all. Evolving that seems like the logical next step. No... Midna's made-up language enforced the idea that she is alien to the world of light. Her appearance, her origins, all that is held together by her strange language. To use that for everyone else would detract from Midna's character overall and lessen her appeal and impact. I think it'd have been better if they made Midna's language a bit more expressive. All the expression was in her body language(anyone else think the mocap for this game has to be some of the best, EVER? Seriously, no one really looks like they're walking stiff or unnaturally). If she had some actual growls when talking about how much she hates the guy, or have the tone lighten up when she's surprised or happy, it would have fleshed her out to an insane amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eon_Blue Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Although, the absence of VA in itself does hurt the game too. Perhaps if all the characters (but Link of course) spoke a sort expressive gibberish. I really liked the gibberish Midna spoke after all. Evolving that seems like the logical next step. No... Midna's made-up language enforced the idea that she is alien to the world of light. Her appearance, her origins, all that is held together by her strange language. To use that for everyone else would detract from Midna's character overall and lessen her appeal and impact. I think it'd have been better if they made Midna's language a bit more expressive. All the expression was in her body language(anyone else think the mocap for this game has to be some of the best, EVER? Seriously, no one really looks like they're walking stiff or unnaturally). If she had some actual growls when talking about how much she hates the guy, or have the tone lighten up when she's surprised or happy, it would have fleshed her out to an insane amount. I haven't played the game (but have followed this thread for a while now) - is Midna's gibberish generated in real time (a la Banjo Kazooie), or is it all prerecorded - I mean like someone actually speaking the language into a mic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Although, the absence of VA in itself does hurt the game too. Perhaps if all the characters (but Link of course) spoke a sort expressive gibberish. I really liked the gibberish Midna spoke after all. Evolving that seems like the logical next step. No... Midna's made-up language enforced the idea that she is alien to the world of light. Her appearance, her origins, all that is held together by her strange language. To use that for everyone else would detract from Midna's character overall and lessen her appeal and impact. I think it'd have been better if they made Midna's language a bit more expressive. All the expression was in her body language(anyone else think the mocap for this game has to be some of the best, EVER? Seriously, no one really looks like they're walking stiff or unnaturally). If she had some actual growls when talking about how much she hates the guy, or have the tone lighten up when she's surprised or happy, it would have fleshed her out to an insane amount. I haven't played the game (but have followed this thread for a while now) - is Midna's gibberish generated in real time (a la Banjo Kazooie), or is it all prerecorded - I mean like someone actually speaking the language into a mic? It's not a person speaking into a mic, but not really generated in real time either. She doesn't talk as the whole message plays out. It is extremely well done, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watkinzez Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 There's something like 5 different 'introduction' Midna voices of which one is chosen to play at the start of each text box; the same system from the past Zelda games. Banjo's voices were only one syllable long and strung together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkjing Donuts Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Midna is hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Midna is hot. I wish it weren't so, but I suspect that there is already some rule 34 of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJG Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I loved the fact that the story was told through body language rather than voice acting. The sounds each character make allow you to flesh out their personality yourself. I like that, but then, I have an active imagination. Some people want their story and their dialogue spoon fed to them. Zelda has always been about telling the story not through cut scenes, but letting it play out the the back ground, allowing you to oncover it as you move around, similar to Half Life. The fact they both feature a silent protagnist also reinforces this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power Surge Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I beat the game a while ago. It took me 45 hours and another 15 hours to get all the heart pieces, poe souls, golden bugs, bottles and upgrades. Next, I suppose I could get the rupees I couldn't keep from the dungeons and play the mini-games. Other than that, I can't think of much else to do. This game is so awesome all around, especially the fishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverStar Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Midna is hot. I wish it weren't so, but I suspect that there is already some rule 34 of that. Indeed, there is. I have encountered it. Involving both forms, at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Author Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Midna is hot. I wish it weren't so, but I suspect that there is already some rule 34 of that. Indeed, there is. I have encountered it. Involving both forms, at that. Of Link in both form as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shadow Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 god damn even a cursory google search turns up results right away eugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Author Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 god damneven a cursory google search turns up results right away eugh Well, I know what I'll entertain myself to tonight (Warning, this was a joke, I would NEVER do that to such pictures.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverStar Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Midna is hot. I wish it weren't so, but I suspect that there is already some rule 34 of that. Indeed, there is. I have encountered it. Involving both forms, at that. Of Link in both form as well? YES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 So if I get the Gamecube version, I won't be disappointed at all right? Because I am buying in less than two days. I can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 So if I get the Gamecube version, I won't be disappointed at all right? Because I am buying in less than two days. I can't wait. Not in the slightest. It's every bit as good as the Wii version. You also won't have to bother with wiggling your hand to make Link attack which is kind of a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Gamecube, Wii... either way, you're getting one hell of a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWarp Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 So if I get the Gamecube version, I won't be disappointed at all right? Because I am buying in less than two days. I can't wait. Not in the slightest. It's every bit as good as the Wii version. You also won't have to bother with wiggling your hand to make Link attack which is kind of a bonus. + camera control AS A FREE BONUS! No onscreen aiming though. Also, Zelda GC numbers are VERY limited. Be crafty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 So if I get the Gamecube version, I won't be disappointed at all right? Because I am buying in less than two days. I can't wait. Not in the slightest. It's every bit as good as the Wii version. You also won't have to bother with wiggling your hand to make Link attack which is kind of a bonus. + camera control AS A FREE BONUS! No onscreen aiming though. Also, Zelda GC numbers are VERY limited. Be crafty. WHAT? LIMITED? CRAP! I doubt many people will get it at midnight...sike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Great Success. I <3 Fred Meyer. They don't put shipments on shelves until somebody asks about it. I got the first copy. Time to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverStar Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 So.. the GC version have the same HDR lighting effects? Try taking a look at the sun, and tell me if it makes the rest of the scene go incredibly dark, or if it's just happy to show it all the same way? Plus, you know.. light-based blur in pretty much everything you see, during the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 So.. the GC version have the same HDR lighting effects? Try taking a look at the sun, and tell me if it makes the rest of the scene go incredibly dark, or if it's just happy to show it all the same way?Plus, you know.. light-based blur in pretty much everything you see, during the day. Everything around gets dark, and there is much HDR lighting, at least in the village where I am. Not as bright as Oblivion's HDR, but it's pretty bright. And very pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverStar Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 So then.. GC> HDR. Wii> HDR. PS3> Not so much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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