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Chrono Trigger 'What Hath Thou Done with This'

Fairly standard techno track, but there are some nice musical ideas here (such as the piano solo). Personally I thought the sounds were a little thin and that made me not enjoy it as much as I could have, but it's a worthy first submission nonetheless.

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I feel icky after listening to this piece. It's like... "eww! get it off me!" Am I being harsh? I don't know. What suprizes me most is that orkybash says "Standard Techno," which I suppose it is, but I usually very much like techno where others don't. Maybe my taste in music is evolving, or maybe (as orkybash also stated) these samples are way to thin. And please, oh please, kill that lead instrument PLEASE! If this were a live band, I'd seriously want to break that instrument. But then again, I doubt it would bother me so much if it were live, and the instrument probably wouldn't slide around like my dog in a skating rink. Anyways, those are my thoughts, please don't hurt me for thinking.

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Yeah I agree with you guys that my sound font is rather thin... cuz well... I have a computer from 1996... lol... I would like to have better sound fonts... or even a nice keyboard... but I gots no money... oh well... so I guess in order to appreciate my stuff you'd have to listion to the musical stuff more than the sound quality... But see for yourself, the rest of my stuff is on vgmix... the last one I did has natural instruments in it... (but they all have that horible synth lead, that I'm beginning to hate) I thought it was a good sound till you all hated it... LOL So expect better quailty as I go on... but no promises!!!

-vicks cornatto

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I thought the remix was good. I didn't much care about the original, but listening to the remix makes the tune enjoyable. It's not the instruments that you use, it's how you use them. And the way you did this is just fine.

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It's not the instruments that you use, it's how you use them.

Don't be giving me this cliche "It's not the size, but the motion in the ocean" stuff. The instruments you use compliment your arrangment, so in that case if your arrangment is amazing and your instuments are horrible, it's going to balance out to be a mediocre song and therefore ruining the amazing arrangment. Compliment your arrangments by using the best instruments you can find. It's not like they aren't out there and widely availible.

On the other hand it is a point that should be made that if the arrangment is good, it should be said so whether the instruments are horrible or not. I wouldn't call these instruments horrible, just that they could be much betther. The arrangment is good, for techno.

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DEAR TO ALL WHO GO AGAINST THIS REMIX,

Of course we all have our views and ideas.We all have our likes and dislikes...but to be so harsh to a mix like this just is'nt right.The fact of the matter is that if you all can do better than this guy than prove it.Don't

just sit there and shout about it do something about it.I personally found good things about this track,and understand and respect this remixers hard work that he put into this mix.Arrangements and reworks are never that easy to do,you need a plan,direction,motivation,drive,and know how to even pull something like this off.So until i see you people on this site remixing and making music that is great and makes people feel like shit,i will remain stuck on this one thought.People hate what they cant do,and i will admit the sound isnt the best but then again wasnt alot of game music to begin with ? we still fell in love with that with all its bad sound quality.The fact of the matter is this....music should speak for itself and how it sounds shouldnt be a factor to bring it down.I really enjoyed this mix..and if i didnt i wouldnt have even spent my time typing about it.

7*'s out of a possible 10 "ALL WHO DISAGREE WITH ME ARE JUST

HATIN''.....

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My, I do like this one. I understand about limited soundfonts (hell, you should hear some of my early work. Or better yet, don't), but I think you've pulled it off well. Especially the piano section.

Great stuff. :)

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I'm working on a version of my song with better samples (and maybe some natural intruments :) ) I was wondering if you guys think that I should bother, or if I should just work on a new song all together... and if I should then what song shall it be... Call me a sell out, but I'd like to do a song by in a Square Soft title. I just like the music put out by them. Lufia is a good game too... anyway I'm rambleing now...

-Vicks

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The song had its foundation set, and just built up with the basic elements. This remix keeps a relatively simple structure throughout, but that's all you can really do with this particular song. After all, it is a very short theme. It's worth a listen, even if you're into more complex melodies.

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Really nice work, although I have to agree everything's a bit thin und dry for a techno track (Or rather Trance, which is often falsely labelled as Techno). The bass is a bit too unseeming and soft, you should add some more kick to it, in my opinion. A bass drum with more thumping electro-character maybe, and the bass line - it's really catchy - make it louder! I think that would be a nice contrast to the rather soft lead. You should try adding some ambient synth sweeps to fill out the background, you've basically only got lead instruments and percussion. The melodic work, no criticism there, really nice work!

(Further elaboration on the difference between techno and trance:

Trance refers to a synth-based music genre which is generally soothing and relaxing in flavor. Ambient sweeps are often combined with gate masks to ambient soundscapes. A steady 4/4 beat accompanies this progressive, repetitive melody. Hard Trance, a more powerful version of Trance is often labelled as Techno, with its slightly "dark" character. Techno itself is a very abstract electronic music branch, it has basically the same structure of trance, but isn't progressive, it's more chaotic and random. A very lively and changing beat, sometimes with very weird time signatures, and metallic, machine-like sounds accompany minor melodies. You find sudden changes of velocity and times signatures, breaks and sometimes the whole thing even reverses itself to suddenly forward again. Oh my, have I been ranting.. Well, hope you didn't fall asleep. If you did, turn up Mark Oh's "Never stop that feeling" to full volume and enjoy your blood curdling in your veins.)

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Though I didnt't find the sounds used annoying, I must admit that they might not be the best of quality. However, this is very well compensated by the style, groove, and feeling in the track. Especially the piano solo and the piano sound are really good, and the modified melodies straight after the intro were great. I really can't complain about the sounds, because:

1. They weren't bad at all. (Especially for a 1996 computer) Just not perfect

2. Everything else in the piece makes up for it.

A bit of repeating myself there, but I had to make it clearer for some strange reason. Anyway, though not a total jackpot, this piece is very entertaining at the least, and much more at it's best parts. Thanks.

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Seriously, give the guy a break and stop dissecting the song. What do you want, a 100-piece orchestra? This is a good mix. That's why it got on OCR after they started judging (unlike Sigmatism, Simcity_Speedtown, cough)

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This is an average (perhaps a little above average) interpretation of Frog's theme. For reasons I can't understand, the overall sound quality seems to be very low.. sounds like 96kbps to me. But anyway: while no one aspect of this remix stands out, it is put together well and flows in a way that is pleasurable to my ear. It is perhaps a bit minimal during the first half, but that is amended during the second. The bare bones percussion could have been better, especially considering the length of the piece. Regardless, the use of variation of the melody and a group of different instruments is commendable.

Though I think the interpretation and arrangement is good, the execution was not amazing for the reasons I described (boring drums, low sound quality, minimal first half). Out of ten, I would give this remix a score of 6.5.

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It's not the instruments that you use, it's how you use them.

Don't be giving me this cliche "It's not the size, but the motion in the ocean" stuff. .

"But I do know it takes a long time to get to england in a row boat." -Jeff Foxworthy

I agree... and I like this... I hate it when remixes go too crazy off what the original piece was... its very annoying.

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in this remix, i loved the beat and listened to it

in the middle, it sorta got slow for my brain and i feel half asleep, still listening to it but not paying much attention to it... then when im about to delete it, the very essence of the song was still in my head and i loved it... now this may not make much sense.. but it was awesome.. lol

well anyways good remix keep it up

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I like this mix. But maybe that's because I like Frog's Theme. As in, I would just leave the game for a while when it was playing so I could listen to it.

Anyways, I let a few people I know listen to it - the one description that really stuck in my mind was "It sounds like it's on a pogostick....I want a pogostick now!" and honestly, I agree - the beat makes you want to jump.

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I not a remixer( hopes to be one though) but I don´t understand your "it´s enough sound quality" talk. This remix kicks, that synth at the almost beginning was really cool, reminded me of Toto, and the rest was just swell. The piano part was very jazzy, he kept to the real melody but changed it so that he could play it more freely. Even if the instruments does sounds s little MIDIsh, it doesn´t bother much, because I like it.

DEAR TO ALL WHO GO AGAINST THIS REMIX

If maybe the first word is what I think it is, I may not be as harsch as him, but yeah, I agree.

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While there is alot of awesome variation in the arrangment I have to agree with some that the over all quality and execution is wanting. Of course I don't mean it in a detrimental way.

It's a fun listen. Good work.

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This really could use a remake. The instrument quality is pretty bad, although I like the sound of the lead-synth. And what's more important, is that the arrangement simply rocks, and I really like the piano solo. The part that begins at 2:25 is also great. A great remix that suffers a bit from not-so-great instrument quality.

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Wretched synth sounds, but some cool soloing and counterpoint. There's clearly interpretation, but the GM sounds have gotta go. :-(

With updated sounds this would be a really cool mix, as there is a lot of care put into trading the lead and counterpoint parts. Sometimes the melody gets buried by all the extra parts, but it's pretty repetitive as far as the sections go, so I guess that distracts from it.

Not really feeling this one, but an update to the sounds and maybe some breakdowns or something to add some freshness to the track would make this one a lot better.

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