Eino Keskitalo

This makes it sound like to the contrary: It's not quite the case with TMNT (it's not licenced music as such, but a tune specific to the TMNT franchise that doesn't originate from a game soundtrack). (The document goes on to allow public domain/folk tunes for album tracks but that's not relevant here.) --Eino

Random thoughts: - I like the piano sound - Hmm, could use a little more humanization in the beginning: I'd vary the velocities so that some of the notes are accented and other are played more lightly, especially when there's a bit faster run. When the bass drums comes in, the mechanical feel on the piano is fine for me (though humanizing that too a bit might be a cool touch) - The intro seemed to flow into the meat of the arrangement better than the previous version - Very nice to hear this familiar theme - Rock! - Some flubs, playing of the lead sounds messy in.. can't seem to get a timestamp from the tindeck player? Just before the halfway mark. - The volumes of rock and strings/piano seem uneven just after the halway mark, the strings seem to overpower everything. Maybe use compression on them? - The new extension in the end works quite well, modifies the original but still follows it - The piece didn't seem too short like the last version did - Cymbal crescendo at the end clips a lot The playing is pretty good and enjoyable both in performance and sound. I think it could affford to be a bit tighter at some points (can't give timestamps). You're doing a good job here, so it deserves to be top-notch and flub free. Tyrian FTW! --Eino

Final candidate 1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rrh4kknr8itwd92/keskitalo-clockwork_groove-20120820.mp3 Finished! Well, final candidate 1 mixdown. Not quite sure about the overall EQ, seemed quite bright compared to some reference ReMixes, and I tried to tone it down, but these other headphones are quite shitty, either I succeeded or I can't tell the difference. For finalizing the mix, apart from a bit of master EQ to done the bass down just a little bit, I just used Renoise's stock Maximizer that I suppose must act as a limitter as well, got a good boost and can't hear any clipping (myself). (Other changes since the last version: shortened the intro a bit, tweaked levels/eqs of particular sounds, that's it.) Source Source breakdown: The vocal melody, used without the drone note and canon/delay: used mainly with the "organ stab note" instrument. Introduced in full 00:07-00:19. Used almost throughout: 00:21-00:47, 01:06-01:08, 01:14-02:08. More sparsely during the last minute: 02:11-02:13, 02:17-02:27, 02:30-02:31, 02:35-02:36, 02:40-02:47, 02:52-02:56. Starts to vary the original melody by following the chord changes from the bass line around 01:57. The lead is also based on the vocal melody line, most clearly 01:02-01:25-ish. Rest of the lead writing is "inspired by" rather than clearly referencing the original. Panned bell from the source used as a panned atmospheric noise, introduced at 00:04, used 00:04-00:48, 01:30-01:44, with about half-speed rhythm during 01:45-02:05, and towards the outro again fading in from 02:48-3:00.

Nice, there's a lot to look forward to here! --Eino

Got the structure completed. WIP on the boards. --Eino

Great to see an update! I am looking forward to this album. I like the idea of experimentation and unusual directions for the rearrangements. I might still shoot you a WIP at some point, but I find it's useless to make a claim unless I have a start I know I'll be able to finish. Pretty nice list of tracks already! --Eino

This is probably the track that pulled me into OCReMix. The previous two comments are spot on. --Eino

Can't listen now, but will ASAP & looking forward to it! --Eino

Singing to the kid has a nice synergy. I've made up some lullabies to VGM melodies. (: --Eino

I think I see Archangel's Eye of the Beholder 2 track on the to-be-posted list! Congrats Archangel! Let's not make that the only one. --Eino

Do you mean OCR moderators would lock a request thread if the source track didn't fit the site's submission standards? I don't think that makes sense. People might still fill the request to remix the music (or find rearrangements elsewhere and link here), whether or not it would go to OCR. You could ask in the "ask judges" thread. --Eino

The first track is sounding great. Really enjoyable sound. I think I appreciate the "less compressed" idea.. oh wait, you mention the first track is still "more compressed". Oh well. Sounds good anyway. (: The "I Can See" font in the cover looks pretty bad, especially enlarged like that. Cool cover otherwise! --Eino

Now that Rozo commented on this, I hear it too, it comes in pretty suddenly. I was too happy to hear my suggestion happen to pick it earlier. I do think it helps with the earlier problem.. Perhaps such a tempo change-up could be foreshadowed earlier in the track. But of course, it's finished and submitted.. it'll be interesting to see what the panel has to say. It's a great piece in any case! --Eino

Almost always, my ideas become something completely else quite soon. I find this a fun process. But when I kind of "succeed" in doing what I envisioned, I get the most dubious about the outcome. I have no idea if it's any good.. come to think of it, those tracks usually are left unfinished. I should make an effort to finish that kind of a track to see if it ends up any good. Should be interesting. --Eino

Congratulations and best wishes! For us, having a daughter has proved to be a huge huge thing, and she's all kinds of awesome. Spend as much time as you can with the kid - it'll be the best time of all your lives. --Eino

G-Mixer, not quite. You might be thinking of this bit: I guess the aim of this is to make sure the games are notable enough. Then it's another matter if the source in question is notable enough. --Eino

Castle Pandemonium was my favourite from the soundtrack when I played through the GBA remake. Looking forward to hearing that one. Also I'm happy to see Shnabubula on the track list there! --Eino

..aw. --Eino

A five year plan? That sounds good. Mark me down for FFXII. --Eino

Good point! --Eino

Happy birthday Rexy! (: --Eino

This is a good topic, as I'm interested in David Bowie's (and Reeves Gabrels') work in Omikron: the Nomad Soul. They were first recorded for the game, but "hours.." (the Bowie album from that time) did come out earlier. The Omikron tracks are different takes, and sound a bit more raw, almost like demos. I kind of doubt they (at least most) were *really* written with the game in mind, but that's just my speculation, and I think I got the chronology down in the above. (In my mind they should be eligible even if they were re-recorded for the "hours.." album (which came out first) and in one case released as a b-side). Oh, and if The Pixies submitted , would it pass the panel?Cool about the Late Goodbye btw, I'll have to consider doing that one.. my fiancé likes the Poets of the Fall debut album. =) --Eino

I've read this thing. Very useful, and easy to read. 74 pages printed! Will post more detailed feedback later. --Eino

I'm still enjoying this and am happy to see an update! It almost feels like a kernel of three different pieces: the piano part, the outro, and the rest of it. The outro is super cool, but feels like it shifts into almost completely new territory. I really like it itself though. I feel like the piano part could well be extended, with some lead playing added in. It's very brief as it is, and the flow to intro to the loud piano part back to the serene beginning of the middle part is kind of jagged. You could also try to include a little bit of the outro material into the earlier piano part to foreshadow it. (Working with the levels might also help to fit the part in better.) The piano part seems to lack bass presence. Again, working on the levels will probably help. I really enjoy the lead that develops during the middle section build up. Looking forward to the next update! --Eino

Many, many thanks to both for your critical comments! I envision that this piece should be quite in-your-face, but I'll be giving the dynamics and the sounds (including dryness) some thought. I have a tendency to first make a sparse mix/arrangement that needs to be filled up. I probably need to give it a rest to hear it afresh myself. --Eino