Bleck Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 we need custom map night. How about it? I agree with this
DarkeSword Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 You guys know that I love Arena.That being said, the majority of the people on the server seem to have some kinda...I dunno, hatred for it. We had JUST started arena_well and pretty much everyone RTVed. I figure if we just have an arena every 5 maps, that'd be fine with me and would be a small enough number for the people who don't like it. People hate Arena because they don't like sitting out. I know that when I connect to the server, I want to play. I don't want to watch people play. Unless you're an absolutely amazing player, you will invariably have to sit out a few rounds. That's annoying. It's especially annoying when people decide they don't want to cap the point but hunt down that last player who just won't die, thereby extending the round longer than it should be. I don't like Arena; I think the implementation is crappy. Dealing with no respawn is fine, but going whole rounds without even playing? No thanks.
Weirdboyscott Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Arena is one of those play modes that needs to be on it's own server, I mean it's not bad it's just everybody has to be in the right mood to play it, and as you can tell by pretty much every time an arena map comes up on this server not everyone wants to play it. It really has nothing to do with how it's played... and everything to do with having to sit out. These days if you play a cooperative game like TF2 there really is no excuse for not having a mic or disabling all mic chatter, in the heat of battle nobody is gonna stop to type. It's not like anybody ever mic spams on the official OCR server, and it's not that hard to mute somebody who is. In before obligatory EdgeCrusher asshole reply post.
atmuh Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 i actually dont mind sitting out being that i hate it so much no respawn in a REALLY FAST deathmatch on a ridiculously small map is what i say is retarded fyi remods server is all arena all the time 209.246.170.75:27015
Bleck Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 there is basically no sense of teamwork in arena and since the game is called team fortress 2 I really don't think it has a place in this game
Weirdboyscott Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 OCR already has places for you to put your Xbox Live gamertag and Wii friend code... so why doesn't it have a space for SteamIDs?
Sensai Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 No sense of teamwork in Arena? I disagree fully. Play with any of the ZUZ guys and you'll hear teamwork in that they'll tell you exactly where everyone is and exactly what they're seeing, etc. That being said, I think that it was done a bit poorly. The fact of the matter is, there's NO reason for there to only be 8v8. It should absolutely go higher. Also, crits should either be lessened a TON or taken off all together. BTW: when are we going to try Zephyr's map? I really wanna play it with other people.
Bleck Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Play with any of the ZUZ guys and you'll hear teamwork in that they'll tell you exactly where everyone is and exactly what they're seeing, etc. that's not teamwork as much as it is serious business which about sums up the ZUZ guys perfectly
duckyboycantfly Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Needs more blue font. Won't be on tonight. Taking one for the team, and letting my roommate enjoy his girlfriend sleeping over the night. Arena is okay, but after a few rounds it gets a bit boring.
OverCoat Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 You know who has great teamwork? Team Roomba
atmuh Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 that's not teamwork as much as it is serious business which about sums up the ZUZ guys perfectly precisely .
Xerol Oplan Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 My sugggestion earlier (which wasn't even responded to) was to have different nights for different things so the arena haters can get a night with little/no arena and we have a good variety of rotations. This included a night or two for custom maps and a free-for-all day.
atmuh Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 the problem with that idea is that very few people play on custom map nights but hey im willing to give it a try
Bahamut Posted September 1, 2008 Author Posted September 1, 2008 Customs have been quite vibrant on the server now that powerlord hosts them.
EdgeCrusher Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 No sense of teamwork in Arena? I disagree fully. Play with any of the ZUZ guys and you'll hear teamwork in that they'll tell you exactly where everyone is and exactly what they're seeing, etc.That being said, I think that it was done a bit poorly. The fact of the matter is, there's NO reason for there to only be 8v8. It should absolutely go higher. Also, crits should either be lessened a TON or taken off all together. BTW: when are we going to try Zephyr's map? I really wanna play it with other people. We could have more than 8 vs 8 if the server cap is raised up to 32 players. But I don't see 12 vs 12 being fun on lumberyard or well.
Overglock Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 So I'm pretty sure nobody will recognize me, but I was a lurker back in the old forum days (pretty sure I was TanMoor2005 then, maybe even Joe Bobfred). Once the forum changed I just stopped checking threads. Caught this topic on the main page and thought I'd look into it. If you see Herbin' Legend playing, it's me.
SirChadlyOC Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 I paid Bahamut for this month's reservation on the TF2 server. This is a friendly reminder that you should do the same. Hooray honor! I like arena maps more than some regular maps, but less than some favorites. I could take them or leave them. However, I do agree with others who point out that regardless of its fun, it doesn't feel like TF2. I suppose that means I'm leaning toward removing them, or at least playing less. For example, I would remove arena_well and arena_granary because the cp versions are more fun. Some would argue cp_badlands is more fun than arena, as well. Leaving the occasional lumberyard seems fun to me though. Also, I love custom maps.
Bahamut Posted September 1, 2008 Author Posted September 1, 2008 Alright, so current rotation: pl_badwater arena_lumberyard ctf_turbine pl_goldrush cp_dustbowl cp_gravelpit cp_fastlane cp_granary pl_badwater arena_ravine ctf_2fort cp_steel cp_dustbowl pl_badwater cp_well cp_badlands tc_hydro pl_dustbowl_b4 Also, the arena maps should hopefully now be 15 minutes instead of 30 minutes, and crits are now disabled for arena maps.
Pyrion Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 There are only three CTF maps in the rotation. I demand equal representation.
Powerlord Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 I paid Bahamut for this month's reservation on the TF2 server. This is a friendly reminder that you should do the same. Hooray honor! Well, I paid several months at once so I wouldn't have to remember every month. There are only three CTF maps in the rotation. I demand equal representation. For official maps, the number of CP maps greatly outweigh the number of CTF maps. It's not surprising to see more CP maps because of it. Also, there's actually two types of cp maps: the free-for-all ones (well, granary, badlands, and fastlane) and the attack/defense ones (dustbowl, gravel pit, and steel). Territory Control (hydro) is a cross between the two styles (normally free-for-all, but switches to attack/defense for the last point).
Sensai Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Blah blah blah, crits are now disabled for arena maps. YAHOOOOO /sings and dances
DarkeSword Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Hey Wes, any chance we can try out CTF Convoy?
Bleck Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 that should make arena a bit more bearable edit: I've played Convoy and I have fond memories of it so I second Darkeswords motion
Zephyr Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 I add my vote for custom map night, custom maps tend to really cut down on players during normal sessions, but if we all agree on a custom map night I'm sure more people will stick around. I'd also love to try out my custom map on the server sometime and that sounds like a good time for it. Kritzkrieg still works on arena though right? Good.
Brushfire Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Custom map night is an awesome idea. Let's do it on Sunday.
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