lazygecko Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 There are a variety of VSTs out there that attempt to recreate the sound of the 2A03. However I'm frustrated over the fact that they either suck, or just leave some functions to be desired. There's the Toad/Peach VSTs from Tweakbench which are just sampled, pre-sequenced sounds straight from games and would be more suited to glitch producers than actual chiptune composing. Then there are those in SynthMaker which all have that weird attack at the beginning even if you set the attack envelope to 0, it just pisses me off. But in reality, you don't really need any of that stuff. My all-time favorite native FL generator is the 3xOsc. It lacks the proper pulse wave used in the NES, but it has the ability to load in custom oscillators from .wav files which I never really thought about before, so I just loaded up pulse samples on different widths. The real beauty of 3xOsc is the amount of features it has though, there are LFOs and envelopes for everything from volume to pitch, something that's missing in a lot of synthesizers. Pitch envelopes are pretty important if you are serious about programming NES sounds, since it allows you, among other things, to easily create bassdrums or toms out of the triangle. You can also easily make delayed vibratos using the pitch LFO, very good for leads. The 3xOsc also works with the piano roll's pitch bending unlike external VSTs, which makes pitch-bending a quick and inspiring process as opposed to the MIDI wheel. The only thing it has problems with is playing noise oscillators, since it seemingly refuses to play them in different pitches. I guess this is easily solved by instead using the FL sampler, though I haven't tried it yet. I've assembled a zipped flp package with a recreation of Stone Man from Mega Man 5. http://www.zshare.net/download/17044661310dcc80/ MP3 example: http://www.zshare.net/audio/170447240a3e8f7a/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sole Signal Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Awesome! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDRKirby(ISQ) Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 i dont do chiptunes myself but that's an ingenious idea. 3xosc ftw~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noTuX Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 This is something that I have been looking for. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pezman Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Anything for Mac? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrich Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 3xOsc is a legitimate beast. Definitely makes the NES soundfont I previously used ultimately forgettable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mia Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Ew, you use version 8. Crashed my FL. But yeah, I do love 3xOsc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOIndustry Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I hear compression! And the triangle doesn't sound quite right. Otherwise it's pretty good though. Out of curiosity, where did you get the "custom oscillators" in the form of .wav files? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nase Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 I really like Magical 8Bit Plug. http://www.ymck.net/english/download/index.html No bells and whistles, just as simple as it should be. The fact that it's GUI-less also is a plus in FL, much faster to automate by right clicking. Using any simple synth works as well of course, but if you care about realism you'd have to reduce the sample rate of the oscillators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushJet1 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Just a couple things: i didn't download the actual FL files since I don't use FL anymore-- but... 1) your triangle doesn't have the aliasing sound the NES's does (it's stair-stepped). I don't know if you even CAN recreate this though. Minor issue. 2) your MM5 song sounds really good except for the background square from :05 and beyond should be a 12.5% width instead of 25%.. easy fix also if you want, i can sample a lot more NOISE stuff for ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillRock Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I use reason for my nes music, it has great preset samples. The only thing it doesn't have are nes drum sounds (i use hi-hats instead). here is the result of nes sounds on reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nase Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 little magical 8bit plugin demo: http://www.tindeck.com/audio/file/jkwj-ohnoes.mp3 My mp3 renders of chipunes in FL always end up sounding worse though, it's very audible. Not sure if it's a specific encoding thing or a general one (Maybe because of the sheer amount of higher frequencies?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxrt Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Hi all, I've had Flstudio on my computer for a while, but I've never gotten around to learning it and using it much. I'm interested in learning it, and I specifically want to try to create NES music. Can anybody give me some starting tips/pointers/useful tutorials/links for complete beginners? I really have no idea how to start learning; every time I try, I start to get flooded with all these terms and jargon that I don't understand. Thanks all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Sounds Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17812 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxrt Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17812 Thanks for the reply! I actually just came from that thread before I posted here because I don't understand what the terms are...chiptunes? Attack envelopes? What is an FL generator? LFO? So confused... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkeSword Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Thanks for the reply! I actually just came from that thread before I posted here because I don't understand what the terms are...chiptunes? Attack envelopes? What is an FL generator? LFO? So confused... Ask in the proper forum. Threads merged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antipode Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I want to download that zip from the first post but whenever I try it just sends me back to the download page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joudanjanaiyo Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I'm having some problems with the Magical 8-bit Plug and was wondering if someone could help me out. I've downloaded the plug-in and copied the .component file into the folder mentioned in the readme, but even after restarting GarageBand and restarting my computer, it still doesn't recognize it as a possible track. What should I do? How do I get GarageBand to use this plug-in? By the way, I have one of the mew MacBook Pro models. Thanks in advance for any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gario Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Now, don't get me wrong, as I'm not that much of a purist, but when writing chiptunes it's not only the timbre of the music but the limitations of the hardware that gives it the feel of the past for me. Personally I prefer the chiptune sequencers over the DAW attempts at mimicking them. Of course, if you emulate the 2 square, triange, and noise perfectly and incorporate the limits into the music while writing, then I'd be all for it. However, I think that would be a bit difficult to do in a DAW. Just sayin' is all It isn't a bad alternative to real chiptunage, for the sake of convinience, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I want to download that zip from the first post but whenever I try it just sends me back to the download page. Same here, and if I just right click>Save as then it's not recognized as a zip file, I hate file sharing sites like that, I'd try something else. http://www.Mediafire.com is really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joudanjanaiyo Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Then, do you or anyone know a decent program for Mac (or Windows XP, I guess) that would help me get the job done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I'm having some problems with the Magical 8-bit Plug and was wondering if someone could help me out. I've downloaded the plug-in and copied the .component file into the folder mentioned in the readme, but even after restarting GarageBand and restarting my computer, it still doesn't recognize it as a possible track. What should I do? How do I get GarageBand to use this plug-in? By the way, I have one of the mew MacBook Pro models.Thanks in advance for any help. This question is unrelated to the main topic at hand is considered derailing a thread, plus you're a lot less likely to get any help in here (FL studio is PC only) than if you had your own thread. Please go start your own thread if after research you can't find the answer, but please, do some research first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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