Claado Shou Posted July 8, 2005 Author Share Posted July 8, 2005 Song download on the website is updated. Also, just want to say again, GREAT SHTUFF. I didn't think the song could sound better with anything other than piano, but I guess I was wrong. Congratulations on a job well done. ~.C.S.~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Claado, can I submit my finished song? Btw, the orchestration on To Far Away Times just makes me more tingly and emotional now. Good job on the orchestration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claado Shou Posted July 8, 2005 Author Share Posted July 8, 2005 Claado, can I submit my finished song? Btw, the orchestration on To Far Away Times just makes me more tingly and emotional now. Good job on the orchestration. Yes...but ask in the message that it not be posted previous to the release of the project. Then it can be posted whenever after that. ~.C.S.~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Sweet dealz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Omen Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Okay, I've finally sat down to focus on writing. And now I realize why nobody wanted to do Guardia Castle.It's in F# Major. Six sharps. AUGH. *Checks his official piano score* hmmmmm....its not in F# as far as I can tell. And it only has one sharp. Maybe using a user-homebrewed-midi for a resource makes it difficult. I know that was the case when I once took a peek at Frog's Theme in midi, and it was almost ALL in occidentals. but if you are going for the midi arrangement, I think you may just have to buck up and deal with it? good luck, you can do it! It seems as though they only changed it to G Major so as to make it easier to play. I've tested it against the recording, and it's very definitely in F#. It won't be a big problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirRus Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Claado, can I submit my finished song? Btw, the orchestration on To Far Away Times just makes me more tingly and emotional now. Good job on the orchestration. Yeah Reu that is some of the best dynamics I've heard on strings you really did a great job with that. Mind if I ask what you are using for your string samples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reu Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 SirRus: Thanks, they're all reason defaults. Umm... can I know who prefers this version and who prefers the piano/singing only version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfimus Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 I was sort of worried when I was downloading it, but now that I'm listening... Orcestration gives the piece something it was lacking to my ears. Of course, both versions are amazing, and whichever version makes it onto the project, I'll be keeping the other as well. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Inferno Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Hey Claado, if possible, you would like to see this movie of yours acted out right? The people who worked on the other canceled Chrono projects probably could try CGing the movie. They probably still have some of their models left over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Go with the orchestrated version. I've already listened to the original 50+ times, and this new one still managed to give me chills. I'll definetly keep both, but I can't see myself really listening to the piano-only version aside from comparison reasons in the future. The added orchestration doesn't really detract the song anywhere and only improves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobo Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Reu has done it again. I loved Ascension to Cosmo Canyon, I loved Legend of the Snake, and God damnit I love this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatentSanity Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 I typed a whole thing comparing the two versions of TFAT, but in the time it took, the computer spazzed out, and my work was gone. I'm not about to retype it, but it was far more persuasive than this. Take my word for it. I have a lot of them. I would point you to 1:03 as the low point, with the almost piercingly low crescendos drowning out the softer, more emotion-filled original piece. I would also, however point you to 1:32 as a high point, with the orchestration blending in perfectly and (other than the 1:48 low string part) not detracting from the original. 2:39 is the redeeming factor of the orchestration. It just sounds great. It changes up the slightly changed chorus just enough that it's even more distinctive, and helps add something more... final, to the finale. My humble, non-music-making, graphics-inclined opinion is still that the original is vastly superior. It just delivers SO much more emotional impact than the new, orchestrated version. The orchestration is nice, but decidedly less nice than the piece that it covers up at times. The original still gives me the chills even after upwards of 70 listens. The new version doesn't. I've given it a chance, but despite the few great parts, it just doesn't fit as well. Still, it's still all on the artists to decide. All I ask is that you take my opinion into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extrakun Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 The orchestration is a very good idea, sounds neat and adds an extra layer of feeling to the whole song. But - at times the singing and orchestration seems to be fighting each other for attention. On a speaker it is not that bad, but in headphones it pretty noticable. Don't get me wrong - the orchestration is neat. It is moving, but my ears just don't know which to focus on, the orchestration or the singing, 'cos they are darn good at the same time. It's pretty much the same problem when the vocals were first added it. Would it better to place the orchestration when there's no singing? I'm not musically talent, but just want to point out some segments where I find the orchestration and the singing clashing. 1:05 to 1:24 sounds bad on headphones. 2:20 (the really dramatic emotional part) overwhelms the singing in parts. The flute (or is that the flute?) is cool, but on headphones it's very disconcerting. The 'flute' seems to be playing on the right side whereas the singing is on the left, and they are of the same volume, and is very...strange. I won't say ditch the orchestration. I think there's some minor quirks to iron out, like when the vocals and the piano piece was first merged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSZelda Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 I'm still torn between the original and new piece for To Far Away Times... they're both so beautiful... But... just an odd question... What are the lyrics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claado Shou Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 The lyrics can be found in the WIP forums, in the actual critique thread, found here: http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=61274 Which brings me to my point: please save the long write-ups about this one particular piece - or even the multiple small ones - for that thread, where it belongs. This thread here is not for analysis of the song, and Reu doesn't even look here for critiques, so you're really just wasting your time. Go visit the WIP thread and post away, where it's wanted. Any other critiques will be deleted post-haste from this thread, so...just a friendly reminder. And also, the decision is ultimately up to ME about which version is used on the project. I'll try listening to the two opposing sides of the argument by visiting the WIP thread, but please don't attack/convince Reu on this issue. It's not his problem, people. ~.C.S.~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillian Aversa Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Still, it's still all on the artists to decide. Hehe, that's kinda the problem. I actually prefer the original version, whereas Reu digs the orchestration. So we're gonna contact a few judges and ask for advice on which to submit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claado Shou Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 I would personally submit the orchestrated version to OCR, since it is much more of an adaptation than a retelling of the source material. But anyway... Please get those WIPS in, people. Another PM and some e-mails will be going out soon, but it's all up to the remixers at this point. The rest is eye candy. ~.C.S.~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellik Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 WIP's are due? hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claado Shou Posted July 17, 2005 Author Share Posted July 17, 2005 Well, not necessarily due...it would just be very nice to have them in so everything can be set up for the launch. We only have a little more than two months left, everyone. I know other things may be popping up here and there and everywhere, but this should be a priority when it comes to your free time. We NEED THOSE SONGS in order to keep this rolling, so please...get moving. I've also decided on a deadline... Either show some progress by the end of July (which would be August 1st) or the song is going to be up for grabs. Please don't let this succumb to atrophy...we're all just about ready for it to be over. That's all I've got. Thanks for listening. ~.C.S.~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleJCrb Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Hey, you stole my due date! Seriously, I'm looking forward to this. Keep up the great work, guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavos Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I'm looking forward to both... I hope the projects go well in the end aswell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellik Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Ok - I'm getting back to work. I'll probably redo everything once I get Philharmonik sometime in early August, but I'll do my best with what I have - time to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliceX Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I wish to snag a spot if there's any tendered free positions. If not, notational assistance, percussive sampling or possibly mastering I am willing to volunteer with. Other than that, this project seems very promising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claado Shou Posted July 23, 2005 Author Share Posted July 23, 2005 Sorry for the "not being here" thing, but other duties have called me lately. School, other music (check the WIP: Other forums), and additional responsibilites have kicked me in the face recently, but now onto business. Remember, August 1st. Mixers, I'll be sending you PMs in a short while with further information, so please check your mailboxes. That is all for now. ~.C.S.~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellik Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Well, I'm making some progress - actually, a lot of what I'm doing is rethinking what I had before. When I get Philharmonik I'll probably start over from scratch entirely again, but it'll be alot better. Glock is now piano, etc. Lead is now clarinet... too bad ST2's clarinet sucks. The piano I have isn't working very well for this style... hm. And the strings aren't exactly great... can't wait until I can start this whole thing over but I am glad to have such a cool source material to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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