anne amère Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 it's not fair it's not fair at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B33J Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I'm ... sorry.... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Wolf Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Because bad musicians think they can learn all the technical aspects of a program and magically make good music. Good musicians know that no program can make up for talent and skill, whether acquired through practice or simply a gift. Thus, the program is simply another tool, and it may not be worth learning how to use program functions that don't apply to the current creative vision of the musician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_NutS Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I can empathize with your struggling with this issue. As a philosopher, I wrestle with this all the time. There are many generalizations that you make, however, that I think deserve closer attention and scrutiny. This issue is dependent upon many factors, only a few of which you discuss, e.g. one's attitude. But socio-economic conditions, individual experience and its impact on self-image, gender, cultural attitudes toward particular individuals and their particular traits are just a few. Individual ability and intentions alone do not make a successful individual. Nor do economic laws of supply and demand, or even darwinism apply to human life the way they do to economics or natural selection. Many dangerous ideas have been propagated along these lines, e.g. social darwinism of Spencer, National Socialism and other racist economic/social theories are a couple. It really is a very complex issue and few philosophers have dealt with this in its entirety. In fact, only one comes to mind, namely Aristotle, who in his Nichomachean Ethics, discusses as many particulars as possible that must be considered. As a final note, this is also a theological issue that varies with one's view of God. I hope you take a look at Aristotle as it would make a nice launching point for a more vigorous analysis of this issue. And don't be put off by the fact that he wrote it 2500 years ago. The problem is that many haven't paid much attention to what he said. (Mortimer Adler is a well known modern Aristotelian who has written some very readable Aristotelian positions and might be a friendlier approach. Six Great Ideas is one title that comes to mind that I would also highly recommend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anne amère Posted July 7, 2007 Author Share Posted July 7, 2007 stop playin word games with me baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shadow Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 well that depends really on what you consider beck to be what do you consider beck to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anne amère Posted July 7, 2007 Author Share Posted July 7, 2007 beck taught me that the guitar is the human soul speaking with just six strings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shadow Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 ok cool well he knows how to use all sorts of complicated programs too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 I think u just suck anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Briggs Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 because apparently good musicians don't know how to practice something derp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauzer Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 because good musicians are fucking broke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armoured Priest Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 because good musicians are fucking broke Quoted For Truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouncerboy15 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 because good musicians are fucking broke That's the best thing I heard all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassivePretentiousness Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 why do trolling offtopic threads get moved to general discussion and serious threads don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhsu Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Hahaha owned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lime Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 This is a serious thread. So many bad artists get listened to everyday (mainstream music, I'm talking to you), whereas good artists are so far underground, they can't get their stuff out because it isn't made with the latest software or instrument or what-have you. Edit: Then again, some mainstream artists are good because of skill and talent. Just look at my last.fm player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciel Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I haven't laughed this much at an OCR thread since pre-2nd exodus times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I haven't laughed this much at an OCR thread since pre-2nd exodus times. you joined after unmod was gone so there have at most been only 3 threads to laugh at since youve been here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 you joined after unmod was gone so there have at most been only 3 threads to laugh at since youve been here She has another account...older than yours actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassivePretentiousness Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 my account is as old as yours hence the reason why I'm not a moderator is backwards racism and nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lime Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 lol 10 chars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBoss Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 pink floyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBoss Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 also I am pretty sure it's because the good musicians are too busy going to cons and bragging on the interetent to learn anything new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Get a good job aka do something that matters. Then develop your hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustin Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 You win for funniest topic title ever. I agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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