herograw Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 PFFTFPFFPTFPTFPFFTT, finally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkCecil13 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 fucking awesome. thanks for this <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
case Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 very very cool. really cool stuff, sam. i'm highly impressed makes me want to read the book again. That's pretty much word-for-word what I was thinking... Do NOT even think about passing this up, this is a must-listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global-Trance Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Sounds like something worth checking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenPi Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Hmm, this sounds like its gonna be awesome. Unfortunately I dont have time tonight, but when I do, Im definitely gonna take a listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 I never read Ender's Game, but I am completely blown away by the amount of detail, care and sophistication of these songs. It's not a secret that Sam is a composer who crafts his work with a lot of detail, and what we see here is this tendency developed to perfection. Inspirational stuff. Now go make music for real books. (Like Terry Pratchett DAMN IT!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imagist Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 I never read Ender's Game, but I am completely blown away by the amount of detail, care and sophistication of these songs. It's not a secret that Sam is a composer who crafts his work with a lot of detail, and what we see here is this tendency developed to perfection. Inspirational stuff.Now go make music for real books. (Like Terry Pratchett DAMN IT!!!) As someone who highly values Mr. Pratchett and all his works, I find it pretty much retarded that you imply Ender's Game isn't a "real" book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 As someone who highly values Mr. Pratchett and all his works, I find it pretty much retarded that you imply Ender's Game isn't a "real" book. That's because it's a joke. I find it pretty much retarded that you can't see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The wingless Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 It really is a shame this isn't game related (what an ironic statement that is, given the book) because this desperately needs to be posted on the front page of *somewhere*. I've listened to it every day since it came out because it's so musically dense and intricate I hear something new everytime. Word. Needs. To. Get. Out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongeBane Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 It really is a shame this isn't game related (what an ironic statement that is, given the book) because this desperately needs to be posted on the front page of *somewhere*. I've listened to it every day since it came out because it's so musically dense and intricate I hear something new everytime. Word. Needs. To. Get. Out. You're totally right! As I've heard from sam, he worked DAMN hard on this suite. He had to work on each movement in segments, like each project file would contain 20 seconds of the movement, and he'd have to work like that, and then merge it all in the end! Imagine trying to finish a whole suite through that process. Word needs to get out of the accomplishments of this man! I decided to post a digg article on this. Support Shnabubula! http://digg.com/music/Beautiful_Musical_Retelling_of_novel_Ender_s_Game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Wow, this sounds like it's going to be awesome. I remember Ender's Game. I read it a few years ago and loved it. Congrats on the new release, you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Ascher-Weiss Posted November 16, 2007 Author Share Posted November 16, 2007 Much thanks Long! And also thank you for referring to me as the "famed shnabubula" ALSO a million thanks to everybody who's posted in this thread. I'm really glad you all enjoyed the piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassivePretentiousness Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 I've been listening to this for a while since shna linked me to it and it is probably my favorite thing I've heard by any member of this community. as others have said, it's unfortunate that there isn't really a vehicle for this to be better spotlighted than a thread. I've sent it to anyone who I thought might enjoy it irl and I recommend others do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antipode Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Back to the front page with you! Also I dugg (digged?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Primoris Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 It really is a shame this isn't game related He could always rename it to Shnabubula Presents Zone of the Enders Game. Anyway great music, very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassivePretentiousness Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Fine I will attempt a real review since everyone else including myself has simply gushed over it so far. I only read Ender's Game about a month ago after having heard this. A lot. It's hard to get me to read much of anything, especially what ostensibly appeared to be Just Another Self-Glorifying Science Fiction Novel, and when all is said and done Ender's Game, and especially its sequel Speaker for the Dead are just that. However, Shnabubula has captured anything worthwhile in Card's book, carefully selected a handful of effective motifs, and transcribed the pacing and mood of the sections of the wok into each of his movements. The result is something for superior to the story itself. It opens up with a childish melody that quickly splits into a carefully phrased synth choir, perfectly elucidating Ender's trite early life that was seemingly silly and transient in quarrels with his brother and neighborhood bullies, but in reality dangerous and very real. The choirs sing to his ability to overcome any obstacle, and another melody resolves the chaos into harmony at 1:59. It than flows tactfully into a softer orchestral tone to demonstrate his loving relationship with his sister Valentine, foreshadowing the fourth act. One can trace each explicit section, each motif, and each phrase to a definitive action found in the plot, but for me to do that would take the fun out of it for anyone who has or is willing to read the book. My favorite track is the third, which is also my favorite part of the book. The synths' complexity and speed increases as the same motifs speaking of Ender's greatness continue to unfold before the listener's ears and the protagonist's juggling struggles of warfare and morality are exquisitely laid out. Shnabubula does not simply equal Card's success in creating a character of raw intelligence and creativity that could save the human race; he surpasses it. Rat-Bonzo is the mind of Ender in music. This is still while, of course, the track still develops the other aspects of the plot and characters. As to everything else... well let's just say he couldn't have done any better in portraying these themes with the instruments he had. The transfused synth and orchestral is a style I haven't seen elsewhere, even in Sam's own work. If it exists, let me know because I'd love to hear it, but could there really be any better way of portraying the ideas of the book? The chaos, the greatness of Ender; the ultimate irony of the plot, the warmth of Valentine and darkness of Peter, the fast action, and the consistency of voice throughout. Sure, you knit-pick a tiny bit, but not a bloody lot. It would be nice if there was a real chorus, I guess. That's of course too much to ask from anyone but those with real financial clout, which is too much to ask for. This is far above in terms of production values anything he has offered overclocked remix, which as a baseline is hardly poor. Please, listen to this in its entirety. If you have, do it again and concentrate more. Seemingly each time I've heard this, I feel like I understand more what both Shnabubula AND Orson Scott Card were getting at. If you haven't read the book, um, listen to this while you are reading the book. There is very little I will endorse without reservation, but this is an exception. Please, listen to this, enjoy it, and shove it others' faces as I have tried to do yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-RK- Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 About time you actually released this. It's been fantastic for ages, and will continue to be. Great work. Be proud of these shits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProjectSpam Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I heard this a while ago, and I've loved it since. I only wish I read the book so I could gain a deeper understanding for what Sam's done. Great work as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monobrow Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 like butta, I tell you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongeBane Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 deja vu . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Ascher-Weiss Posted November 26, 2007 Author Share Posted November 26, 2007 COME JOIN ENDER'S DRAGON ARMY www.arnoldascher.com register today while there are still openings! http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13315 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shadow Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 you know, I've gotta say Splash Panther is my favorite of your original pieces. I really love the section from 0:37 to 1:00 in particular. oh, and Hommage a Nakano is so ridiculously intricate that i have to mention it, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herograw Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 Fine I will attempt a real review since everyone else including myself has simply gushed over it so far.I only read Ender's Game about a month ago after having heard this. A lot. It's hard to get me to read much of anything, especially what ostensibly appeared to be Just Another Self-Glorifying Science Fiction Novel, and when all is said and done Ender's Game, and especially its sequel Speaker for the Dead are just that. However, Shnabubula has captured anything worthwhile in Card's book, carefully selected a handful of effective motifs, and transcribed the pacing and mood of the sections of the wok into each of his movements. The result is something for superior to the story itself. It opens up with a childish melody that quickly splits into a carefully phrased synth choir, perfectly elucidating Ender's trite early life that was seemingly silly and transient in quarrels with his brother and neighborhood bullies, but in reality dangerous and very real. The choirs sing to his ability to overcome any obstacle, and another melody resolves the chaos into harmony at 1:59. It than flows tactfully into a softer orchestral tone to demonstrate his loving relationship with his sister Valentine, foreshadowing the fourth act. One can trace each explicit section, each motif, and each phrase to a definitive action found in the plot, but for me to do that would take the fun out of it for anyone who has or is willing to read the book. My favorite track is the third, which is also my favorite part of the book. The synths' complexity and speed increases as the same motifs speaking of Ender's greatness continue to unfold before the listener's ears and the protagonist's juggling struggles of warfare and morality are exquisitely laid out. Shnabubula does not simply equal Card's success in creating a character of raw intelligence and creativity that could save the human race; he surpasses it. Rat-Bonzo is the mind of Ender in music. This is still while, of course, the track still develops the other aspects of the plot and characters. As to everything else... well let's just say he couldn't have done any better in portraying these themes with the instruments he had. The transfused synth and orchestral is a style I haven't seen elsewhere, even in Sam's own work. If it exists, let me know because I'd love to hear it, but could there really be any better way of portraying the ideas of the book? The chaos, the greatness of Ender; the ultimate irony of the plot, the warmth of Valentine and darkness of Peter, the fast action, and the consistency of voice throughout. Sure, you knit-pick a tiny bit, but not a bloody lot. It would be nice if there was a real chorus, I guess. That's of course too much to ask from anyone but those with real financial clout, which is too much to ask for. This is far above in terms of production values anything he has offered overclocked remix, which as a baseline is hardly poor. Please, listen to this in its entirety. If you have, do it again and concentrate more. Seemingly each time I've heard this, I feel like I understand more what both Shnabubula AND Orson Scott Card were getting at. If you haven't read the book, um, listen to this while you are reading the book. There is very little I will endorse without reservation, but this is an exception. Please, listen to this, enjoy it, and shove it others' faces as I have tried to do yours. FOR SUPERIOR~!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The wingless Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 COME JOIN ENDER'S DRAGON ARMYwww.arnoldascher.com register today while there are still openings! http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13315 I've been meaning to ask you, what the fuck is this shit supposed to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Ascher-Weiss Posted November 27, 2007 Author Share Posted November 27, 2007 I've been meaning to ask you, what the fuck is this shit supposed to be? John are you being cute or intentionally hostile.. it's all explained here: arnoldascher.com/Dragon.txt I figured you'd support the cause. I got nuffin but love fo ya baby! =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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